Pm says he will not bow to threats and intimidation.

That's his job.

Edited January 9, 201610 yr by Wilsonandson

The real irony here, that Prayuth doesn't realize, that he is just being used as a (replaceable) pawn by the real powers.............

Karma can be a b...h, the same people who was paid to overthrow the legal government, a government that paid them a higher price for their rubber. Now that the elites are in power the message is clear we eat the cake you can eat your rubber.

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May one wonder what may follow after "spontaneous" protests against this government?

Return of the Thaksin government?

Division of the country?

Civil war?

We, from the West, tend to think our ideas of democracy are good for all countries in the world.

Bar the fact our democracies have become quite undemocratic lately, degraded to a voting circus without any power, one should consider the possibilities for Thailand during the time of the latest coup.

And for the weak of heart, the Suharto democracy in Indonesia and the Marcos democracy in the Phillipines might be the future for Thailand.

Very democratic indeed.

Try and think about what people would want and enjoy. Not what "countries", or their fake "democratic" leaders, would want.

He won t bow as he is the only one who can threat and intimidate

Edited January 9, 201610 yr by GeorgesAbitbol

The prime minister disclosed that the government had already spent 250 billion baht to help farmers and he didnt want market mechanism to be distorted by governments intervention.

Imagine a time when Yingluck and the puppet master could have not "distorted the market mechanism" with rice. Some of the farmers that committed suicide might still be alive, Yingluck might still have a job and might not be faced with a loss of assets. Those of you who hate Prayuth have a right to do so, but you should ask yourselves whether caving into every farmer and bailing them out at the cost of taxpayers is something you support in your own country.

We, from the West, tend to think our ideas of democracy are good for all countries in the world.

So you would prefer a military ruled government who assumed power against the will of the people and refused to give it up? All the while suppressing basic human rights?

Yes, because "we from the West" can always climb on an airoplane and head back to the west if it all becomes too repressive. The Thai people can't.

"We from the West" can burble on about democracy and human rights, at little risk to ourselves.

Tha people daring to raise the subject in public are liable to detention without trial, trial (with no appeal) in camera by the military, or just good old fashioned "disappearing". With the added chance of becoming "suicidal" or developing a severe blood disorder.

Posters like this inadvertently reveal their utter contempt for the Thai people.

"I will not bow to my own methods" more like.

The prime minister disclosed that the government had already spent 250 billion baht to help farmers and he didnt want market mechanism to be distorted by governments intervention.

Imagine a time when Yingluck and the puppet master could have not "distorted the market mechanism" with rice. Some of the farmers that committed suicide might still be alive, Yingluck might still have a job and might not be faced with a loss of assets. Those of you who hate Prayuth have a right to do so, but you should ask yourselves whether caving into every farmer and bailing them out at the cost of taxpayers is something you support in your own country.

Constantly referring to the previous govt is proof to me that you deem it impossible to find anything good to say about the present regime.

supply and demand , it is pretty straight forward , , next it will be all the gold buyers wanting the PM to lift the gold price as it has fallen since they bought gold,

Why are the Saudi government looking for alternatives now as the oil demand is falling with the US and Canada fracking all over their respective countries, and more and more push on alternative energy electriciity being one, When no one wants the stuff then the value is not there, demanding the government pay subsidies for the rubber rate is demanding monies off the people of Thailand, we might as well demand mobile phone subsidies as my old Nokia is not wanted any more and no one wants to buy it,

Unrealistic to expect bail outs from lack of research or an understanding of supply and demand market.

WAKE UP !

Agriculture is different. You cannot just switch from Rubber to something else and back again depending on demand. It takes years to grow trees and a lot of investment. Countries around the world subsidise their farmers for very good reasons so why shouldn't Thailand. It is you who should wake up and learn before using the one fits all argument of supply and demand to explain all social and economic problems. Life is just not that simple.

supply and demand , it is pretty straight forward , , next it will be all the gold buyers wanting the PM to lift the gold price as it has fallen since they bought gold,

Why are the Saudi government looking for alternatives now as the oil demand is falling with the US and Canada fracking all over their respective countries, and more and more push on alternative energy electriciity being one, When no one wants the stuff then the value is not there, demanding the government pay subsidies for the rubber rate is demanding monies off the people of Thailand, we might as well demand mobile phone subsidies as my old Nokia is not wanted any more and no one wants to buy it,

Unrealistic to expect bail outs from lack of research or an understanding of supply and demand market.

WAKE UP !

You still use a Nokia? Shocking!

Please Note: To all Farang.

Please carefully inspect your condoms as they come from the same unhappy rubber tree farmers.

Unless you don't care about one getting past the goalie.

Safe First !!

The prime minister disclosed that the government had already spent 250 billion baht to help farmers and he didnt want market mechanism to be distorted by governments intervention.

Imagine a time when Yingluck and the puppet master could have not "distorted the market mechanism" with rice. Some of the farmers that committed suicide might still be alive, Yingluck might still have a job and might not be faced with a loss of assets. Those of you who hate Prayuth have a right to do so, but you should ask yourselves whether caving into every farmer and bailing them out at the cost of taxpayers is something you support in your own country.

Constantly referring to the previous govt is proof to me that you deem it impossible to find anything good to say about the present regime.

Not true, the shooting, bombing and big screen Skype calls have stopped. The current government is not my choice, but I do like a few things.

supply and demand , it is pretty straight forward , , next it will be all the gold buyers wanting the PM to lift the gold price as it has fallen since they bought gold,

Why are the Saudi government looking for alternatives now as the oil demand is falling with the US and Canada fracking all over their respective countries, and more and more push on alternative energy electriciity being one, When no one wants the stuff then the value is not there, demanding the government pay subsidies for the rubber rate is demanding monies off the people of Thailand, we might as well demand mobile phone subsidies as my old Nokia is not wanted any more and no one wants to buy it,

Unrealistic to expect bail outs from lack of research or an understanding of supply and demand market.

WAKE UP !

Just like tomatoes over supply low price , shortage high price, easy really.

May one wonder what may follow after "spontaneous" protests against this government?

Return of the Thaksin government?

Division of the country?

Civil war?

We, from the West, tend to think our ideas of democracy are good for all countries in the world.

Bar the fact our democracies have become quite undemocratic lately, degraded to a voting circus without any power, one should consider the possibilities for Thailand during the time of the latest coup.

And for the weak of heart, the Suharto democracy in Indonesia and the Marcos democracy in the Phillipines might be the future for Thailand.

Very democratic indeed.

Democracy is not good for all counties in the world, but is good for the majority of the people.

We, from the West, tend to think our ideas of democracy are good for all countries in the world.

So you would prefer a military ruled government who assumed power against the will of the people and refused to give it up? All the while suppressing basic human rights?

Yes, because "we from the West" can always climb on an airoplane and head back to the west if it all becomes too repressive. The Thai people can't.

"We from the West" can burble on about democracy and human rights, at little risk to ourselves.

Tha people daring to raise the subject in public are liable to detention without trial, trial (with no appeal) in camera by the military, or just good old fashioned "disappearing". With the added chance of becoming "suicidal" or developing a severe blood disorder.

Posters like this inadvertently reveal their utter contempt for the Thai people.

Yes, because "we from the West" can always climb on an airoplane and head back to the west if it all becomes too repressive. The Thai people can't.

We from the West were not always sitting so comfortably, we've been through oppression and suffered terrible injustices in the not too distance past, people gave blood, sweat, tears and their lives for what we have today, which is so much better than Thailand has or will have in the future, unless they unite for the common good and sacrifices are made.

Regardless of any lack of diplomacy in his rebuttal of demands it is correct. Why should previously enriched opportunists who have reaped income benefits that are now unsustainable due to supply outstripping demand be maintained by tax payers . Offers of financing viable alternatives have long since been made. Subsidies were/ are a sop. Farming is a business....not a lifestyle. ( If it is to be sustainable)

He doesn't bow to them, he makes them, on a daily basis!

The Oracle of Bangkok has spoken. He carrys a big club to back it up. Well lets get back to the military budget new tanks, planes, missiles, subs, enlarging the army, new guns have I left anything out? Is the enemy he is preparing for within or lurking somewhere around us or perceived?

Edited January 9, 201610 yr by elgordo38

"using money from the state coffers alone could not resolve rubber problem in the long run."

But for the short run while Prayut is PM, it's not a problem. There is no check and balance as to how he uses Thai taxpayer funds.

It will be a problem for the next government that will actually help the military in the long run. The next government will be elected, and with the constitutional constraints and high debts imposed on the nation by Prayut's government, that elected government will be unable to keep farmers happy. Thus, Prayut's government will be remembered with a kind heart.

You left out "and return" to continue the cycle of the last 50 years. Its a game of snakes and ladders. I will let you sort out who is what. Roll the dice.

What a piece of work Mr. P is.

Rather than express his sorrow and sympathy for them he makes these kinds of statements. What a pathetically sad leader he is.

Surprised this is allowed to be said.

It's not that I support any agricultural subsidies, I don't.

But I suspect many a poster here that espouses a 'holier than thou' attitude to Thai agricultural subsidies be it Rice, Rubber or whatever, probably hails from either the EU or US where agro subsidies run into the Billions of $$ or €€.

Of course these subsidies don't seem to provoke the same visceral response that they do here, probably because they're not aligned to one faction or the other, plus in western countries there is a well developed agro lobby

I'm all for getting rid of all agricultural price support/subsidies worldwide, which I believe would be a major factor in improving the lot of many a subsistence farmer in the third world who cant compete against a subsidized agro business.

Here in Thailand the whole issue is so 'color coded' that it takes on a whole new level of ridiculousness.