Homeless man allegedly electrocuted by Bangkok CCTV

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Homeless man allegedly electrocuted by Bangkok CCTV
By Coconuts Bangkok


File photo of the city's CCTV cameras. Photo: National News Bureau of Thailand

BANGKOK: -- A homeless man with no identification papers but believed to be between 35 and 40 years old died on Saturday, supposedly from electrocution caused by a surveillance camera belonging to Bangkok Administration.

But Taweesak Lertprapan, director of Traffic and Transportation Department, said today that officials have inspected the CCTV camera at Paholyothin Soi 47 and found no electrical leakage.

However, if it is proved that the man did die from electric shock, Bangkok Administration “would be glad to help out,” Taweesak told Nation TV.

On Saturday early morning, the homeless man was found on his knees, clinging to a pole that holds the city’s surveillance camera. A witness, Thanapol Yongmei, 20, said he also touched the pole and felt an electric shock, reported Daily News.

Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/01/11/homeless-man-allegedly-electrocuted-bangkok-cctv


-- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-01-11

[rkidlad]

"But Taweesak Lertprapan, director of Traffic and Transportation Department, said today that officials have inspected the CCTV camera at Paholyothin Soi 47 and found no electrical leakage" Well, of course there was no leakage.

However, if it is proved that the man did die from electric shock, Bangkok Administration “would be glad to help out,” Why even say this? There was no leakage, remember? I guess for the sake of being hypothetical you could also take full responsibility, admit and apologise for lying and be punished accordingly.

This country really is mental sometimes.

[Reigntax]

And the cctv will be operational and be able to provide footage of the incident. Yeh sure!

[steven100]

the CCTV cameras are not very good at providing surveillance, however they will shock you !!

[DrTuner]

They put fake cameras and then electrify the pole so no one can climb up and check?

[leeneeds]

I do not understand " the homeless man was clinging to the pole " If electricity was leaking and the man received a shock one would it not throw him away from the pole ? 2 would not the power trip out in some fuse somewhere as the power had leaked. 3 The man being a conductor of electricity coursing through his body would not the witness who touched the pole have received the same voltage and also be dead?

[steven100]

I do not understand " the homeless man was clinging to the pole " If electricity was leaking and the man received a shock one would it not throw him away from the pole ? 2 would not the power trip out in some fuse somewhere as the power had leaked. 3 The man being a conductor of electricity coursing through his body would not the witness who touched the pole have received the same voltage and also be dead?

like most stories reported .... nothing that's written makes any sense.

[FloridaExport]

I do not understand " the homeless man was clinging to the pole " If electricity was leaking and the man received a shock one would it not throw him away from the pole ? 2 would not the power trip out in some fuse somewhere as the power had leaked. 3 The man being a conductor of electricity coursing through his body would not the witness who touched the pole have received the same voltage and also be dead?

High voltage causes muscles to contract. This will in turn make someone involuntarily hold onto a power source. It takes extremely high voltages to physically throw someone.

The homeless man potentially wasn't in good health to begin with, and not every human dies from the same shock (see lightning strike survivors). He would have been partially grounding the electrical source as well. It isn't beyond possibility that the second person could have touched the same electrified pole and lived.

Edited January 11, 2016 by FloridaExport

[realenglish1]

This is truly a government cover up. They do not want to admit a problem

So sad Thais have to put up with this sort of adminstration

[leeneeds]

I do not understand " the homeless man was clinging to the pole " If electricity was leaking and the man received a shock one would it not throw him away from the pole ? 2 would not the power trip out in some fuse somewhere as the power had leaked. 3 The man being a conductor of electricity coursing through his body would not the witness who touched the pole have received the same voltage and also be dead?

High voltage causes muscles to contract. This will in turn make someone involuntarily hold onto a power source. It takes extremely high voltages to physically throw someone.

The homeless man potentially wasn't in good health to begin with, and not every human dies from the same shock (see lightning strike survivors). He would have been partially grounding the electrical source as well. It isn't beyond possibility that the second person could have touched the same electrified pole and lived.

really H V power to run cctv cameras

[Jonmarleesco]

Seems he found one of the few that was actually working. Could as easily have been a TV, floodlight, electric rice cooker ...

But what an earth was the BMA's Taweesak wittering on about? '... if it is proved that the man did die from electric shock, Bangkok Administration “would be glad to help out,” ...'

[Thaidream]

Electrified poles, wires hanging down everywhere' complete inability to understand the dangers of such situations and the lack of will to do anything about it. Maybe when the cities start paying out some huge compensation they will get serious about this problem.

[Nemesis7]

RIP unidentified man.

[BigBadGeordie]

I do not understand " the homeless man was clinging to the pole " If electricity was leaking and the man received a shock one would it not throw him away from the pole ? 2 would not the power trip out in some fuse somewhere as the power had leaked. 3 The man being a conductor of electricity coursing through his body would not the witness who touched the pole have received the same voltage and also be dead?

An important factor here is the let-go phenomenon, which is defined as the current level in the arm that will cause the hand to involuntarily grip the current source. When the fingers are wrapped around a large cable, most adults will be able to let go with a current of less than 6 mA. At 22 mA, however, more than 99% of adults will not be able to let go.Nearly all cases of inability to let go involve alternating current. Alternating current repetitively stimulates nerves and muscles, resulting in a tetanic (sustained) contraction that lasts as long as the contact is continued. If this leads to the subject tightening his or her grip on a conductor, the result is continued electric current flow through the person and lowered contact resistance.Given that the current flow in the forearm stimulates both the muscles of flexion and extension, it seems surprising that one cannot let go. However, the muscles of flexion are stronger, making the person unable to voluntarily let go (similar to the fact that a crocodile's jaws can be kept shut with your bare hands, but one should better not attempt to keep them open like that...).Direct currents below 300 mA have no let-go phenomenon, because the hand is not involuntarily clamped.Several different outcomes may occur when a person grasps a conductor giving 10 kV AC hand-to-hand voltage. Within 10 to 100 milliseconds, muscles in the current path will strongly contract. The person may grasp the conductor more tightly. However, mostly subjects are propelled away from the contact, likely due to generalized muscle contractions.

ReferenceFish & Geddes, J Plastic Surg (2009); 9: 407-21

Edited January 11, 2016 by BigBadGeordie

[SOTIRIOS]

...typical incompetence and irresponsibility....the rule of law....the order of the day....

...they want to wait and see if in fact he was homeless or he had family and someone might speak up for him....

...human rights....???

...there are supposed to be independent organizations that should be concerned....

[NCC1701A]

seems odd.

the metal pole runs to the ground. was it set in concrete? maybe bolted to studs set in concrete?

so no earth contact?

so the pole remained electrified and did not trip a circuit breaker or the wiring did not melt when the hot lead somehow first touched the pole.

then the man who was standing on soil, and maybe water or mud touched the pole and provided a path to ground.

i wonder if they tested if the cameras still had power flowing to them when they tested for "leakage" from the pole to ground?

by the the way, its no joke, this entire country is un-grounded. why run three wires when stuff works with just two.

remember the kid who died at the water fountain at school, the other kid at the SCB ATM, a mans wife washing the floor of their business.. on and on...

Edited January 11, 2016 by NCC1701A

[Strangebrew]

Glad to help out Who and How? the man is dead. You see why TVF bashes Thai's It is theses stupid stories and comments from Stupid official's.