Dumbastheycome Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 and these sicko's can't be traced ? They can be traced absolutely. Yes. And that need be done asap! If it comes full circle ? There is more wrong about this item ! "She says He says that they said etc....... ". Hopefully it is not a matter of turning a tragedy into a personal soap ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hannah’s sister, Laura, has written a Facebook post describing the family’s grief and criticising Thai authorities’ handling of the case. She says her family were told: “Why are you so bothered? Just go home and make another one.” Oh come on---no matter how down on Thailand you are...This is fantasy from the Sister who I don't think even came here...can anyone really imagine in the middle of a murder hunt that is being reported world wide The Thai authorities saying ..."don't worry--Go Make another Baby" ...... What Authorities When.........Where.... And as for the other comments she is coming out with---"A Thai (Buddhist said )..."Its OK she will be back in 30 days as someone else" I don't think the murder trial was conducted that well........I have definite doubts about the convicted....but this has to be recognised for what it is......pure fantasy. I have to agree - I take this with a huge pinch of salt You agree that Laura never went to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 ............but expats here have a great concern about how the authorities handled the case, and wether they are safe from a similar fate Nobody is safe from a similar fate, nobody! It could be you next time or anybody else! The sky is falling! Please go back to your homeland and its dull life of closed shops by 6.00 pm with no vendors on the street You will be safe there,Thailand is a very dangerous country, myself and thousands of Westerners and foreigners have lived here for 20 years or more, every day living pleasant and fruitful lives with our Thai families and friends but we now realize in fact it's dangerous for our health as hysterical postings on TV can lead to apoplexy due to utterly foolish posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think it's clear and understandable that Laura has been advised to remove the comments attributed to Thai authorities while at the court etc..If this is true it would suggest that the police or parties are still involved in some shape or form. While the UK police hands are tied I agree with other posters that the British government needs to be a bit more proactive in this. There's many ways they can do this but it's clear that there is clear evidence that a injustice has been carried out here as why would threats be made and money offered if everything was above board. There has been threats throughout this episode be it translators,workers on Koh Tao and Andy Hall and his team...There is I'm sure many more examples of money changing hands or threats made and as I've said previously why would all this fuss be made over two worthless Burmese workers.. To the very few people on here attempting to deflect and defend this injustice your losing your battle and like the Thai authorities losing credibility by the day...Not that some of you had any to start with but like many on here I had a open mind at the start of this investigation but I surely don't anymore. Respect to Laura and I hope in days and months to come she is able to tell her story in front of media that have not paid money to take her picture and it can be a final nail in the coffin of this despicable investigation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Laura should go on television herself to clarify all her allegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Lets not forget Luke Miller........the world should demand to see the CCTV footage between 05.30-07.30 of the Sunset Bar. if those hours are not recorded (or lost) we know the score....... 1) At 05.30 security searched the pool for lost valuables as they do after every big pool party, no sign of Luke 2( At 07.30 he was found by cleaners. Lets not forget Luke! I agree , but what if there was no CCTV footage in that time period? Would you still believe it was an accident or just accept it as another brutal murder? It's very unusual indeed to switch a CCTV system off. Don't they have to be recalibrated (date, time, etc) every time you do it? Mine certainly does. It's much simpler to leave them switched on, as there is no benefit in switching them off unless the hard drive is miniscule. Edited January 12, 2016 by Khun Han Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B166ER Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 ...hear hear....Nigeone....hear hear .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcirtapyelrah Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 To protect their interests. And it seemed to have been working for the past 16 months until the Witheridges could just not take it anymore... You are one of the hang em high brigade aren't you? Starting to have second thoughts now? Nope. I'm not in favour of the death penalty. I also do not have vested interests on Koh Tao. I meant the guilt of the Burmese. No second thoughts on that though. It's a foregone conclusion never mind what then, what a master you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-35285866 Luke Miller Thai pool death: Family 'concern' over inquiry Thee's nothing there to suggest any foul play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwindiBoy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 how desperately you all want to be a part of this. how very sad. How desperately YOU want to be part of something that you call others sad for wanting to be part of!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkknight666 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Laura should go on television herself to clarify all her allegations. That's for her to decide.. She doesn't owe anyone anything. Same with Maria Miller, or even David Millers family. It's the RTP who are in debt to these people. I'm Just happy to see them fight for the truth, or some portion of truth they can obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiamaster Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think it's clear and understandable that Laura has been advised to remove the comments attributed to Thai authorities while at the court etc..If this is true it would suggest that the police or parties are still involved in some shape or form. Yes it does suggest that there is a party in some shape or form involved.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenmohr Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hannah’s sister, Laura, has written a Facebook post describing the family’s grief and criticising Thai authorities’ handling of the case. She says her family were told: “Why are you so bothered? Just go home and make another one.” Oh come on---no matter how down on Thailand you are...This is fantasy from the Sister who I don't think even came here...can anyone really imagine in the middle of a murder hunt that is being reported world wide The Thai authorities saying ..."don't worry--Go Make another Baby" ...... What Authorities When.........Where.... And as for the other comments she is coming out with---"A Thai (Buddhist said )..."Its OK she will be back in 30 days as someone else" I don't think the murder trial was conducted that well........I have definite doubts about the convicted....but this has to be recognised for what it is......pure fantasy. I have to agree - I take this with a huge pinch of salt You agree that Laura never went to Thailand? " I don't think even came here" Quote from Oxo. The photo of her shielding her distraught mother during the ambush arranged by the RTP in Bangkok shows clearly she was in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 In the meantime can someone give me an answer as to why that whole part about those insensitive comments from the RTP has been deleted from her original facebook posting? Why don't you ask her instead of asking strangers to speculate over and over? You disappoint me, normally you are always so observant. Half of the posts on this thread are about those comments that the RTP had supposedly made in court. And all reports in the UK media are based on Laura's facebook posting (and indeed that one reply to a comment that I had overlooked). The Guardian tried to make a nice spin that Hannah believed that the B2 could not have done it as the threats she received came from Thais. I believe that she is being advised what to post and what not to post. I see a conspiracy at work here and I have an idea of who these advisers are. Hint: females. Over to you. So according to you... The sister of a murdered victim in a completely bungled investigation where evidence has been compromised from day 1 with a shoddily roped off crime scene, 'suspects' beaten into a false confession on very flimsily charges, missing, withheld or 'used up' evidence presented in an 'unbiased' court (I am naming just a few things here, I could go on) is complicit in a 'conspiracy', The truth of the matter is, according to you and your glee club. Is that the very professional Thai polce handled this investigation by the book. Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo just got uber horny one day and the two of them, alone, committed this henious crime. Everything in court was professional and above board. The Koh Tao mafia threatening various people (including translators for media outlets) is just some unexplainable side effect. It is clear that I am replying to a professional troll. Others I think are on some sort of payroll. But I think you are just doing it for the 'kicks'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunMatt Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 In the meantime can someone give me an answer as to why that whole part about those insensitive comments from the RTP has been deleted from her original facebook posting?Why don't you ask her instead of asking strangers to speculate over and over? You disappoint me, normally you are always so observant. Half of the posts on this thread are about those comments that the RTP had supposedly made in court. And all reports in the UK media are based on Laura's facebook posting (and indeed that one reply to a comment that I had overlooked). The Guardian tried to make a nice spin that Hannah believed that the B2 could not have done it as the threats she received came from Thais.I believe that she is being advised what to post and what not to post. I see a conspiracy at work here and I have an idea of who these advisers are. Hint: females. Over to you. So according to you... The sister of a murdered victim in a completely bungled investigation where evidence has been compromised from day 1 with a shoddily roped off crime scene, 'suspects' beaten into a false confession on very flimsily charges, missing, withheld or 'used up' evidence presented in an 'unbiased' court (I am naming just a few things here, I could go on) is complicit in a 'conspiracy', The truth of the matter is, according to you and your glee club. Is that the very professional Thai polce handled this investigation by the book. Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo just got uber horny one day and the two of them, alone, committed this henious crime. Everything in court was professional and above board. The Koh Tao mafia threatening various people (including translators for media outlets) is just some unexplainable side effect. It is clear that I am replying to a professional troll. Others I think are on some sort of payroll. But I think you are just doing it for the 'kicks'. Agreed. He's not informed enough to be one of the gang. He's just a troll who wants attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Grumpy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 It doesn't matter who says what, or who introduces evidence about anything. The Thai police, judges and PM will never admit being wrong, and the B2 will never be found not guilty. That's Thailand. Accept it, or don't. up2u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 In the meantime can someone give me an answer as to why that whole part about those insensitive comments from the RTP has been deleted from her original facebook posting? Why don't you ask her instead of asking strangers to speculate over and over? You disappoint me, normally you are always so observant. Half of the posts on this thread are about those comments that the RTP had supposedly made in court. And all reports in the UK media are based on Laura's facebook posting (and indeed that one reply to a comment that I had overlooked). The Guardian tried to make a nice spin that Hannah believed that the B2 could not have done it as the threats she received came from Thais. I believe that she is being advised what to post and what not to post. I see a conspiracy at work here and I have an idea of who these advisers are. Hint: females. Over to you. So according to you... The sister of a murdered victim in a completely bungled investigation where evidence has been compromised from day 1 with a shoddily roped off crime scene, 'suspects' beaten into a false confession on very flimsily charges, missing, withheld or 'used up' evidence presented in an 'unbiased' court (I am naming just a few things here, I could go on) is complicit in a 'conspiracy', The truth of the matter is, according to you and your glee club. Is that the very professional Thai polce handled this investigation by the book. Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo just got uber horny one day and the two of them, alone, committed this henious crime. Everything in court was professional and above board. The Koh Tao mafia threatening various people (including translators for media outlets) is just some unexplainable side effect. It is clear that I am replying to a professional troll. Others I think are on some sort of payroll. But I think you are just doing it for the 'kicks'. I think they are called Shiils, sadly they infect this site and all freedom of speech forums. laura dont be put off stand strong!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I always had faith that someone would not be blind, laura you are now aresome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I always had faith that someone would not be blind, laura you are now aresome!! You might wish to edit your final word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think they are called Shiils, sadly they infect this site and all freedom of speech forums. laura dont be put off stand strong!!!! Can someone define "shills" for me I think I'm aware of what trolls are, even though I get sucked in... But shills is a new one to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 How long before the shills arrive? Must me sleeping late today. They've already arrived. Check out #23! Even if what Laura says is true, there is the possibility the threats are coming from some low-life scum not associated with Thailand or the murderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think they are called Shiils, sadly they infect this site and all freedom of speech forums. laura dont be put off stand strong!!!! Can someone define "shills" for me I think I'm aware of what trolls are, even though I get sucked in... But shills is a new one to me Here you go: http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Internet-shill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkknight666 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 How long before the shills arrive? Must me sleeping late today.They've already arrived. Check out #23! Even if what Laura says is true, there is the possibility the threats are coming from some low-life scum not associated with Thailand or the murderers. So you believe Laura can't distinguish a genuine threat from a troll? 92% of ThaiVisa users can.. I'm quite sure Laura knows when a threat is of concern. A one off troll wouldn't get mention, how about her being followed in her car? Many others have been threatened by Thais since this crime occurred.. Why? Thais would hang these two Burmese out first thing and it'd be over if the B2 were the killers. I don't believe they are, I see them as a level above slaves belonging to people who are a few levels lower than past time slave owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isitjustme Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think they are called Shiils, sadly they infect this site and all freedom of speech forums. laura dont be put off stand strong!!!! Can someone define "shills" for me I think I'm aware of what trolls are, even though I get sucked in... But shills is a new one to me Here you go: http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/Internet-shill Thank you for that too. Live and learn. A very apt term for these sad mercenaries. Although I think sick muppets would suit better than sock puppets in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Laura should go on television herself to clarify all her allegations. That's for her to decide.. She doesn't owe anyone anything. Same with Maria Miller, or even David Millers family. It's the RTP who are in debt to these people. I'm Just happy to see them fight for the truth, or some portion of truth they can obtain. Her remarks were passionate and accusatory, she does owe someone something- she owes the Thai police and people a justification and proof of her remarks of condemnation -who said ' you can make another one' ? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isitjustme Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Laura should go on television herself to clarify all her allegations. That's for her to decide.. She doesn't owe anyone anything. Same with Maria Miller, or even David Millers family. It's the RTP who are in debt to these people. I'm Just happy to see them fight for the truth, or some portion of truth they can obtain. Her remarks were passionate and accusatory, she does owe someone something- she owes the Thai police and people a justification and proof of her remarks of condemnation -who said ' you can make another one' ? etc. Who is this sad sack? She is owed very much by several people, in fact more than can ever be repaid, but owes nobody a thing especially these lying cheating bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Considering what the RTP allegedly told the family, I'm more than a little surprised that they should actually believe the BiB did get the right people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) I think it's clear and understandable that Laura has been advised to remove the comments attributed to Thai authorities while at the court etc..If this is true it would suggest that the police or parties are still involved in some shape or form. Yes it does suggest that there is a party in some shape or form involved.... Is that the RTP, judges and the mafia on Koh Tao along with there supporters party and the few defenders in here.? Well, what I would say is don't waste your time and put the champagne on ice because lots of us have not given up and as well as Laura speaking out there's more coming ! The walls are slowly ,slowly crumbling and it's just a matter of time till another wrong doing is carried out against someone in the know and bang...The story comes out...Just hope it's sooner rather than later before more innocent holiday makers are hurt or killed..Another point....Nobody seems to survive these attacks do they !! And never any witnesses ! And no CCTV is ever available !! Coincidence, no chance .. Edited January 12, 2016 by Nigeone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Laura should go on television herself to clarify all her allegations. That's for her to decide.. She doesn't owe anyone anything. Same with Maria Miller, or even David Millers family. It's the RTP who are in debt to these people. I'm Just happy to see them fight for the truth, or some portion of truth they can obtain. Her remarks were passionate and accusatory, she does owe someone something- she owes the Thai police and people a justification and proof of her remarks of condemnation -who said ' you can make another one' ? etc. Who is this sad sack? She is owed very much by several people, in fact more than can ever be repaid, but owes nobody a thing especially these lying cheating bastards. If people do you wrong don't just post stuff on a face book page which you withdraw 24 hours later, come out on TV and say what happened, the accusations will have a much bigger impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isitjustme Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Not the brightest star in their solar system is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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