gemguy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 And they should ask them to do so. Meantime, the clever Thais will avoid the scrutiny and say: "We are quite certain he fled to the USA ...so best to look for him there...thank you" Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 All this Xi guy did was say on radio, these are the words that are censored on China's web. Banged up or murdered for that? Paranoid nation. Over a billion Chinese sheep and just a handful of old shepards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajahnski Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The US should mind their own bussines and worry about Quantanamo The US should close Guantanamo, however, that is a mere red herring and has no bearing on the disappearance of this person. Just b/c the US isn't perfect does not mean that we cannot challenge other nations to become better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) The US should mind their own bussines and worry about QuantanamoChildish and boring. Invite an Embassy representative from Ethiopia, Sweden, Turkmenistan, Jamaica or wherever else to comment and what do you imagine the respose would be - 'We in - simply couldn't give a shit, to be honest with you'? What else then would you expect the Americans would say if asked? Edited January 27, 2016 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Not to worry,the RTB have already found him,and are,even now,deciding how to divide up his financial assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The US should mind their own bussines and worry about Quantanamo By this comment I'm assuming you are OK with human rights activists being kidnapped in foreign countries while applying for political asylum? Not too smart of a comment, mr. Craig, from your posts we know you. I agree with mr. Frits that the US has brought enough pain and suffering to the world, and that a low profile on part of the US would be quite welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) The US should mind their own bussines and worry about Quantanamo By this comment I'm assuming you are OK with human rights activists being kidnapped in foreign countries while applying for political asylum? Not too smart of a comment, mr. Craig, from your posts we know you. I agree with mr. Frits that the US has brought enough pain and suffering to the world, and that a low profile on part of the US would be quite welcome. Since both of you have such a one-sided and hate-filled view of the US, unless you want to be a hypocrite, don't consume anything that came from the US--food, products, TV shows, movies, music. And, of course, two wrongs make a right, thanks for pointing that out. Since the most anti-Americanism I experience is from Europeans, whether you are or not, I'll point out the Europeans have easily been responsible for more pain and suffering world-wide than any other race or group of people in the history of the world. 500 years of colonialism and genocide internationally, along with thousands of years of warring with each other, including two 20th century world wars started by and prosecuted for years by Europeans. The US gov't's bad acts hardly begin to match that. Edited January 28, 2016 by PaPiPuPePo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The US should mind their own bussines and worry about QuantanamoBy this comment I'm assuming you are OK with human rights activists being kidnapped in foreign countries while applying for political asylum? Not too smart of a comment, mr. Craig, from your posts we know you.I agree with mr. Frits that the US has brought enough pain and suffering to the world, and that a low profile on part of the US would be quite welcome. I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The US should mind their own bussines and worry about QuantanamoBy this comment I'm assuming you are OK with human rights activists being kidnapped in foreign countries while applying for political asylum? Not too smart of a comment, mr. Craig, from your posts we know you.I agree with mr. Frits that the US has brought enough pain and suffering to the world, and that a low profile on part of the US would be quite welcome. I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US, so they are not in the position to lecture someone else. The US urges everyone on everything but if someone has something to say about their actions they get their knickers in a twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US. Arney you for getting all the other countries that were with them but I digress. Bear with me. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations yes I agree should have just shot the lot of them when captured end of debate on Guantanamo and end of a lot of terrorist scum end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US. Arney you for getting all the other countries that were with them but I digress. Bear with me. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations yes I agree should have just shot the lot of them when captured end of debate on Guantanamo and end of a lot of terrorist scum end of story. So you decide who is quilty without lawyers, judges and want to kill everybody. Land of the free, what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US. Arney you for getting all the other countries that were with them but I digress. Bear with me. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations yes I agree should have just shot the lot of them when captured end of debate on Guantanamo and end of a lot of terrorist scum end of story. So you decide who is quilty without lawyers, judges and want to kill everybody. Land of the free, what a jokeSorry for going off topic but I deem a response is necessary.Hey I ain't from the land of the free thank god. As for guilt and innocence in conflict there is no such thing. They were in a war zone I suspect IMHO most of them were fighting men ok a few inocents mixed in that's war shoot first before the ones hiding behind women (who are just as guilty by the way) shoot you. I don't care what the bleeding hearts/doogoders/not in my name brigade say. They would soon change there mind if we did nothing and just let them bomb everywhere. If you don't like the way the UN and allies work feel free to go over to the other side and preach to them, let's see how long you keep your heads. Edited January 28, 2016 by Sutty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US. Arney you for getting all the other countries that were with them but I digress. Bear with me. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations yes I agree should have just shot the lot of them when captured end of debate on Guantanamo and end of a lot of terrorist scum end of story. So you decide who is quilty without lawyers, judges and want to kill everybody. Land of the free, what a jokeHey I ain't from the land of the free thank god. As for guilt and innocence in conflict there is no such thing. They were in a war zone I suspect IMHO most of them were fighting men ok a few inocents mixed in that's war shoot first before the ones hiding behind women (who are just as guilty by the way) shoot you. I don't care what the bleeding hearts/doogoders/not in my name brigade say. They would soon change there mind if we did nothing and just let them bomb everywhere. If you don't like the way the UN and alias work go over to the other side and preach to them let's see how long you keep your heads.there were people kidnapped from all over the world. as there are also 3 year olds on the terror 'no fly' list by mistake, how can you possible know if they are quilty? you can't, you are so scared you do anything to feel a bit safer.a bit of scare tactics and every idiot gives up his human rights Edited January 28, 2016 by FritsSikkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US. Arney you for getting all the other countries that were with them but I digress. Bear with me. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations yes I agree should have just shot the lot of them when captured end of debate on Guantanamo and end of a lot of terrorist scum end of story. So you decide who is quilty without lawyers, judges and want to kill everybody. Land of the free, what a jokeHey I ain't from the land of the free thank god. As for guilt and innocence in conflict there is no such thing. They were in a war zone I suspect IMHO most of them were fighting men ok a few inocents mixed in that's war shoot first before the ones hiding behind women (who are just as guilty by the way) shoot you. I don't care what the bleeding hearts/doogoders/not in my name brigade say. They would soon change there mind if we did nothing and just let them bomb everywhere. If you don't like the way the UN and alias work go over to the other side and preach to them let's see how long you keep your heads.there were people kidnapped from all over the world. as there are also 3 year olds on the terror 'no fly' list by mistake, how can you possible know if they are quilty? you can't, you are so scared you do anything to feel a bit safer.a bit of scare tactics and every idiot gives up his human rights I have never and will never be scared as for human rights isn't that supposed to work two ways. It's people who would tie our hands behind our back whilst preaching the human rights act at us whilst turning a blind eye to what our common enemy is doing. Please don't presume to know me I will/would/have done whatever it takes to 1. Keep me alive 2. Protect my family and whilst doing that the bye product is to keep the bleeding hearts/doogoders safe as well but they tend to forget that don't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Urge away, Mr Ambassador ! That's what Ambassadors are for : blowing hot air with a very serious and concerned look on their face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect.Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US, so they are not in the position to lecture someone else.The US urges everyone on everything but if someone has something to say about their actions they get their knickers in a twist. I'm not in favor of Guantanamo, but a bit of a stretch comparing the inmates there with human rights activists abducted by a foreign country here in Thailand. Apples to oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPiPuPePo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect.Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US, so they are not in the position to lecture someone else.The US urges everyone on everything but if someone has something to say about their actions they get their knickers in a twist. I'm not in favor of Guantanamo, but a bit of a stretch comparing the inmates there with human rights activists abducted by a foreign country here in Thailand. Apples to oranges. The connection between anything in Thailand and some abuse that's occurred in the US can be gossamer thin but the US-haters will jump on it. If it weren't so hypocritical it would be amusing to read (especially) Germans criticising the US about human rights abuses.....I guess there's a 70-year statute of limitations on moral responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect.Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US, so they are not in the position to lecture someone else.The US urges everyone on everything but if someone has something to say about their actions they get their knickers in a twist. I'm not in favor of Guantanamo, but a bit of a stretch comparing the inmates there with human rights activists abducted by a foreign country here in Thailand. Apples to oranges. The connection between anything in Thailand and some abuse that's occurred in the US can be gossamer thin but the US-haters will jump on it. If it weren't so hypocritical it would be amusing to read (especially) Germans criticising the US about human rights abuses.....I guess there's a 70-year statute of limitations on moral responsibility. where are those Germans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Not too smart of a comment, mr. Craig, from your posts we know you.I agree with mr. Frits that the US has brought enough pain and suffering to the world, and that a low profile on part of the US would be quite welcome. I think it would be terrible for developed nations to ignore human rights violations. It's part of what makes us civilized. This isn't about other actions of the US. Only about this topic. Though many who have strong anti US feelings try to deflect. Guantanamo is an example of human rights violations by the US, so they are not in the position to lecture someone else. The US urges everyone on everything but if someone has something to say about their actions they get their knickers in a twist. your logic is nonsense. your view of reality is uninformed. Guantanamo is a black mark on the US and the president has been trying to close it since he took office. You may or may not be aware of the reasons why it is not yet closed. I suspect, more likely, not. None of which detracts from the US government's right to address human rights issues worldwide. But according to your logic, until the USA is perfect, they cannot do anything about human rights globally. That is a childish position to take. And an ignorant one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derator01 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 A post commenting on moderation has been removed from view. Per forum rules: 10) Do not discuss moderation publicly in the open forum; this includes individual actions, and specific or general policies and issues. You may send a PM to a moderator to discuss individual actions or email support (at) thaivisa.com to discuss moderation policy.You will not block contact with moderators or administrators. Doing so will result in suspension. Several off topic posts have been removed, along with some very appropriate replies. Apologies to the members with the appropriate replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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