2 deputies killed, suspect dead in US shopping center shootout

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2 deputies killed, suspect dead in shopping center shootout
By JULIET LINDERMAN

ABINGDON, Md. (AP) — A gunman fatally shot a sheriff's deputy inside a crowded restaurant at lunchtime Wednesday and killed another deputy in a shootout, authorities and witnesses said.

The suspect was killed in the exchange of gunfire not far from the shopping center where the restaurant was located, Harford County Sheriff Jeffrey Gahler said. Remarkably, no bystanders were hurt.

Police haven't released a motive for the shooting, but the sheriff said he believed the first deputy who approached the gunman was shot because he was wearing a uniform. The shooter, identified as 67-year-old David Brian Evans, had warrants out for his arrest in Harford County and Florida, where he was accused of assaulting a police officer.

The initial shooting took place inside a Panera restaurant in Abingdon, which is about 20 miles northeast of Baltimore.

Sophia Faulkner, 15, said she and her mother were getting lunch and almost sat right next to the gunman. Instead, they chose a booth about 10 feet away because the man appeared "sketchy" and disheveled. He was sitting in the back and hadn't ordered any food, Faulker and her mother said.

A sheriff's deputy was called to the restaurant to check on a report about someone causing a problem. The deputy tried to talk to the man, who was apparently known to local deputies and workers at the restaurant. The deputy sat down beside him, asked how he was doing and the man shot him in the head.

"I saw him fall back out of his chair and the blood started coming out," Faulkner said. "I didn't know how to process it. My mom said, 'What's going on?' and I said, 'Get down, someone just got shot.'"

The shooter fled and "everyone started screaming," Faulkner said. Children at the restaurant — out of school because of snowfall — were running around.

"I was freaking out so much and everybody was running to one side of the store. Families were huddling together. I didn't really know what was going on," she said. "You see this stuff online and in movies and on TV when it happens, but you never think you're going to go out to lunch one day with your mom and it's just going to happen."

Bartender Mike Davis was working at the Ocean City Brewing Co.'s Taphouse when he saw two women and a child run from Panera to his restaurant's back door.

"They were hysterical. They said they heard gunshots," he said. "We locked the door and went to talk to a cop. The cop said not to let anyone in. Then, we heard more gunshots, 'Pop, pop, pop, pop,' from down in the shopping center. It was hectic."

Witnesses gave officers a description of the gunman and told them which way he was headed, the sheriff said. Deputies caught up with him and shots were exchanged, the sheriff said.

The slain officers were described as a 30-year veteran and a 16-year veteran. The sheriff said he had met with both of their families but was withholding their names because more relatives needed to be notified.

"This is a tragic day for the Harford County Sheriff's Office," Gahler said.

One of the deputies had been taken to Shock Trauma. Video showed an ambulance and sheriff's car escorted by police on motorcycles leaving, apparently taking the body to the medical examiner's office. Police lined each side of the street and saluted when the vehicles drove by.

The sheriff said investigators believe the person acted alone and there is no further threat to the community.

"The restaurant was very full at lunchtime," Gahler said. "Thankfully, no one else was injured."

The shopping center is called the Boulevard at Box Hill. It has a mix of shops, restaurants, a grocery store and a bank.

Yellow tape blocked off the Panera and Taphouse restaurants, but people were coming and going freely at other businesses after the shooting.

Panera spokeswoman Amanda Cardosi said the company is heartbroken.

"Our thoughts and actions now are directed towards the victims and their families. This location will remain closed as we work with law enforcement to investigate," she said.


-- (c) Associated Press 2016-02-11

[eggers]

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

[SgtRock]

eggers, on 11 Feb 2016 - 09:17, said:

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

From the OP

The shooter, identified as 67-year-old David Brian Evans, had warrants out for his arrest in Harford County and Florida, where he was accused of assaulting a police officer.

And

The deputy sat down beside him, asked how he was doing and the man shot him in the head.

Do you really think he would give a sh!t about gun control or gun laws ?

[eggers]

eggers, on 11 Feb 2016 - 09:17, said:

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

From the OP

The shooter, identified as 67-year-old David Brian Evans, had warrants out for his arrest in Harford County and Florida, where he was accused of assaulting a police officer.

And

The deputy sat down beside him, asked how he was doing and the man shot him in the head.

Do you really think he would give a sh!t about gun control or gun laws ?

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

[SgtRock]

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

[Grouse]

eggers, on 11 Feb 2016 - 09:17, said:

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

From the OP

The shooter, identified as 67-year-old David Brian Evans, had warrants out for his arrest in Harford County and Florida, where he was accused of assaulting a police officer.

And

The deputy sat down beside him, asked how he was doing and the man shot him in the head.

Do you really think he would give a sh!t about gun control or gun laws ?

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

OBJECTION!

Cannot have a discussion about gun control and use logic!

[RuamRudy]

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

[BarnicaleBob]

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

There is strong gun control in place in that state, the suspect should not have been able to legally have a gun because of his record. But being a criminal he obtained one. No need to change the law, just need better enforcement of it.

[RuamRudy]

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

There is strong gun control in place in that state, the suspect should not have been able to legally have a gun because of his record. But being a criminal he obtained one. No need to change the law, just need better enforcement of it.

Has nobody tried to enforce the law in the past? The horrific toll of gun murders that the has US endured over the many past years suggests that efforts to date have been a total failure. What should be done differently that has not been done before?

[kiwiaussie]

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

That he sucks at maths...

[nemrut]

Children should not have to deal with such trauma at young age - especially in such a rich, developed country.

Sadly events like this will continue to occur because Americans refuse to collectively admit there is a gun problem in the US.

[Ulic]

If only everyone was mandated to carry guns. They could have helped the officers.

It does not matter the rest of the word has lower gun death rates restricting gun

ownership. We want to do it the American way.

[SgtRock]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 11:27, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 10:35, said:

Quote

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

[samran]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 11:27, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 10:35, said:

Quote

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

But not economics.

Make things scarce, the price goes up.

Criminals would have to be thrifty little savers to pack heat - and given they have all that cash, they'd probably have no need to be gun toting criminals.

But given you've shown you struggle with counting, this basic lesson in economics has probably gone over your head too.

Edited February 11, 2016 by samran

[Chicog]

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

Not sure where you get your numbers, but even so, that's about an hour's worth in the US, right?

[RuamRudy]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 11:27, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 10:35, said:

Quote

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

Although I don't knowingly mix with any, I would assume that UK criminals are no less inclined to thumb their noses at rules and laws as their US counterparts. It is the relative restriction of access to guns in the UK that is reason for the huge disparity in gun crime between the two places.

[SgtRock]

samran, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:43, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:10, said:

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

But not economics.

Make things scarce, the price goes up.

Criminals would have to be thrifty little savers to pack heat - and given they have all that cash, they'd probably have no need to be gun toting criminals.

But given you've shown you struggle with counting, this basic lesson in economics has probably gone over your head too.

You have just shown that you clearly have no clue on what you are commenting on.

The rental market in the UK of illegal firearms is rather large.

[SgtRock]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 14:50, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:10, said:

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

Although I don't knowingly mix with any, I would assume that UK criminals are no less inclined to thumb their noses at rules and laws as their US counterparts. It is the relative restriction of access to guns in the UK that is reason for the huge disparity in gun crime between the two places.

Just in case it escaped your attention. I never made a comparison in gun crime between the US and the UK.

I simply stated that if a criminal wanted a firearm they were fairly easy to obtain in the UK despite the draconian gun laws that are in place in the UK.

Of course there is going to be a disparity due to population size and the sheer volume of firearms in the US.

[GeorgesAbitbol]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 11:27, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 10:35, said:

Quote

If strict gun control laws were in place, he likely wouldn't have a gun to start with!!! Simple!!

If only everything in life was SIMPLE.

Over 20 shootings in the UK in 2016 so far. UK gun laws are one of the most restrictive in the world.

So far this year in the US, there have been 1,398 deaths due to gun violence: a country with 5 times the population of the UK has 70 times as many gun deaths. I am not sure what your point is.

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

Wrong! as the guns are less availables the prices on the black market will rise and less people would be able to afford them.

Australia is a good exemple :

http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html

Edited February 11, 2016 by GeorgesAbitbol

[eggers]

And America doesn't need gun control......!!!

There is strong gun control in place in that state, the suspect should not have been able to legally have a gun because of his record. But being a criminal he obtained one. No need to change the law, just need better enforcement of it.

Has nobody tried to enforce the law in the past? The horrific toll of gun murders that the has US endured over the many past years suggests that efforts to date have been a total failure. What should be done differently that has not been done before?

Ban all high powered weapons, stricter licensing & policing + educational programs to change from gun mind set society. Unfortunately, nothing will change as gun lobby & weapons manufacturers have too much sway on politicians & those in power.

[samran]

samran, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:43, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:10, said:

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

But not economics.

Make things scarce, the price goes up.

Criminals would have to be thrifty little savers to pack heat - and given they have all that cash, they'd probably have no need to be gun toting criminals.

But given you've shown you struggle with counting, this basic lesson in economics has probably gone over your head too.

You have just shown that you clearly have no clue on what you are commenting on.

The rental market in the UK of illegal firearms is rather large.

So are you saying prices for the actual weapons don't go up then? Then you are living with the fairies. (http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html).

Um, so if this 'rather large' illegal firearm market was as big and scary you make it out to be, then you'd have similar outcomes to the US? But you don't......

[wwest5829]

If only everyone was mandated to carry guns. They could have helped the officers.

It does not matter the rest of the word has lower gun death rates restricting gun

ownership. We want to do it the American way.

There you go. We won't need to pay no stinkin taxes for police. We can just shoot more of each other, most notably bystanders. Reading about this my gut, emotional reaction was that I wished I could be there to offer assistance to the officers. Huumm,, then I start to think. How would anyone tell if I was the original shooter as I flourished my deadly weapon? How to tell the good guys from the bad guys? Tighter gun control may indeed not stop all but it certainly will help and any help is welcome. By the way, I am an American handgun owner who holds a valid Concealed Deadly Weapon Licence when in the U.S.

Edited February 11, 2016 by wwest5829

[crowbait]

It is very sad that two law officers had to die. It is very sad that school children had to witness it. It would not have happened if the perpetrator had no gun.

Guns don't kill people but people with guns kill people far too easily and far too quickly.

[SgtRock]

samran, on 11 Feb 2016 - 17:30, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 16:10, said:

You have just shown that you clearly have no clue on what you are commenting on.

The rental market in the UK of illegal firearms is rather large.

So are you saying prices for the actual weapons don't go up then? Then you are living with the fairies. (http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html).

Um, so if this 'rather large' illegal firearm market was as big and scary you make it out to be, then you'd have similar outcomes to the US? But you don't......

When someone links an article about the SALE price of illegal firearms in Australia to make a comparison with the UK RENTAL market of illegal firearms. It is that person who is living with the fairies.

A great man once said:

It is better to keep quiet and let people think you are a fool................

You probably know the rest.

[stevenl]

When someone links an article about the SALE price of illegal firearms in Australia to make a comparison with the UK RENTAL market of illegal firearms. It is that person who is living with the fairies.

A great man once said:

It is better to keep quiet and let people think you are a fool................

You probably know the rest.

You'd better stick to that great man's advice, your posts here so far have confirmed your dots.

[samran]

samran, on 11 Feb 2016 - 17:30, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 16:10, said:

You have just shown that you clearly have no clue on what you are commenting on.

The rental market in the UK of illegal firearms is rather large.

So are you saying prices for the actual weapons don't go up then? Then you are living with the fairies. (http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/black-market-guns-triple-in-price-20141013-115f08.html).

Um, so if this 'rather large' illegal firearm market was as big and scary you make it out to be, then you'd have similar outcomes to the US? But you don't......

When someone links an article about the SALE price of illegal firearms in Australia to make a comparison with the UK RENTAL market of illegal firearms. It is that person who is living with the fairies.

A great man once said:

It is better to keep quiet and let people think you are a fool................

You probably know the rest.

Clearly you aren't very bright. Do you poke your eye out with a fork everytime you eat as well?

All that matters is the end result. Per capita gun deaths in the UK vs US. The UK is lower.

And all you can bang on about is a rental market for guns. Whatever keeps you amused I guess...

[SgtRock]

samran, on 12 Feb 2016 - 10:05, said:

SgtRock, on 12 Feb 2016 - 08:48, said:

When someone links an article about the SALE price of illegal firearms in Australia to make a comparison with the UK RENTAL market of illegal firearms. It is that person who is living with the fairies.

A great man once said:

It is better to keep quiet and let people think you are a fool................

You probably know the rest.

Clearly you aren't very bright. Do you poke your eye out with a fork everytime you eat as well?

All that matters is the end result. Per capita gun deaths in the UK vs US. The UK is lower.

And all you can bang on about is a rental market for guns. Whatever keeps you amused I guess...

Thank you for highlighting my point.

A irrelevant link to a news article and now a comparison between a Lamborghini and a Skoda.

Resort to further insults when you have been identified as clueless. How childish.

[Scott]

Continued personal remarks and baiting will result in suspensions.

[RuamRudy]

RuamRudy, on 11 Feb 2016 - 14:50, said:

SgtRock, on 11 Feb 2016 - 13:10, said:

The point.

Whether you choose to believe it or not. Is that criminals, who are intent on using firearms, will get their hands on them regardless of what Laws, gun control measures are in place.

Criminals tend to thumb their noses at rules and laws.

Although I don't knowingly mix with any, I would assume that UK criminals are no less inclined to thumb their noses at rules and laws as their US counterparts. It is the relative restriction of access to guns in the UK that is reason for the huge disparity in gun crime between the two places.

I simply stated that if a criminal wanted a firearm they were fairly easy to obtain in the UK despite the draconian gun laws that are in place in the UK.

Your statement makes no sense to me. Either guns are hard to come by in the UK, or UK criminals are less inclined to violent acts than US criminals. I suspect that the former is the true reason we see a massive difference in gun crime in the UK. UK gun controls work.

[Chicog]

Anyone who thinks effective gun control doesn't reduce gun violence is an imbecile. The problem in the US is that too many special interests make sure it is never effective.