Ghostmanthai Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I find your story to have so many twists in it. First its courts then granny's with sticks then your taking your daughter. If you want advise spit the truth out. If your just here for justification on your actions by telling random but willing strangers part truths go get drunk its a better vent. If you want her that badly you will know how to get her. Something has been mentioned and you will know a price or a way to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 How can people be so bad, why do they do these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermor Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I find your story to have so many twists in it. First its courts then granny's with sticks then your taking your daughter. If you want advise spit the truth out. If your just here for justification on your actions by telling random but willing strangers part truths go get drunk its a better vent. If you want her that badly you will know how to get her. Something has been mentioned and you will know a price or a way to sort it out. I guess you don t have a child born in thailand. When the baby born in thailand, as a foreigner father, you don t have any rigths on your child....and for this, i have been to the court, with the agreement of the mom, to be the legal father. Now the problem is that mother don twant me as the father....hope you get it now... It s all truth...i ve no interest to lie, just looking for advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thats why I advocate that for a retirement extension proof should be needed of 800,000 baht for 3 months and a certificate of vasectomy...or just a tattoo in the ear. Not saying the OP is on a retirement extension but we see these types of posts so many times, usually by a 60 year old bloke who generally will be dead before his kid(s) start high school. Would you start having kids at an older age in any country? Yes I know about Rod Stewart and many other millionaires etc etc...but the average punter?? Having said that ----good luck to the OP as he realises his daughter needs both parents in her life, maybe just not at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringabeer Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 By the way, i don tthink that she want to run away with the chikd as her mother and her 1st daugther are still in phuket. But i wondering wha kind of legal action she can do in bangkok and mot in phuket : change my daugther s name ? Change adress ? Applying to the court in bangkok ?.....why not start with offering her 100,000 + baht to sign over custody to you in Phuket. Worth a try for peace of mind.Good Luck hope it goes well for you Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thats why I advocate that for a retirement extension proof should be needed of 800,000 baht for 3 months and a certificate of vasectomy...or just a tattoo in the ear. Not saying the OP is on a retirement extension but we see these types of posts so many times, usually by a 60 year old bloke who generally will be dead before his kid(s) start high school. Would you start having kids at an older age in any country? Yes I know about Rod Stewart and many other millionaires etc etc...but the average punter?? Having said that ----good luck to the OP as he realises his daughter needs both parents in her life, maybe just not at the same time. Well I did it and our son soon leaves uni, it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I dont want that my daugther dont have her mother anymore. I dont even request the full custody. She needs her mom...but she need her father as well. I dont want to go back to my home country, i ve settle my life here and my daugther is Thaie. I only ask for good education, and i m quite sure that the court will agree that its better in the interest of the child to go to an international school. I believe that the legal way is the best, or problems will come back later for sure... best of luck during this ordeal... the question and answer..how much do you want it? then go do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Joe Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I know where her father lives ( in bangkok) And i know where she have land in Petchabum. But i dont have any adress. I would like to go by myself but i fear of the family as even the grand mother in phuket was aggressif to me when i wanted to take my child. she hit me with a stick on the head,while i was holding my daugther, i have a report from the hospital, but i didn t make a complain at the police station. If you do not have the balls to resist the grandmother dude forgetting the case. A decent man should behave as such and not give up her child for the first threat and then come after whining on the forums. You have not been able to make you love your partner, you do not either make you respect his family able to Give Up your child facing the old and her stick. Frankly to me in any case you're a loser too weak to undertake the difficult path of the reconquest. The salvation in run away and forgetfulness, the only solution for you in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonuaq Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Easy file a report that she is doing child obduction since you have custody. The arrange a lawyer specialist in child obduction. The try to remoce the mother of her custody since she not acts in the intrest of the child. The child has right too which she violates. As well she is withholding her from the people who have custody which us every where a crime. But depending if you can all so you have sole custody. On the long run it will be probably that you not see your daughter. And she will aliante you. That is my personal experience. And have won all court cases. Hope the best for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Hill Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Try as hard as you can, but sorry to say you have seen the last of your daughter. Thai family will hide her from you, and lie to your face that they are unaware of her whereabouts. Please assumptions are useless Well said, mate. Seems you figured out very quickly whose "advice" you can safely afford to dismiss First you need a lawyer and then you need to get the court to issue an order. Once that's done and she fails to comply with it, the police should simply arrest her ass and compel her to reveal the child's location Horrible situation to be in but a resolution isn't as far away as some of the ****Inflammatory comment removed**** on here would have you believe Best of luck Edited February 20, 2016 by metisdead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Feel for you....not sure but is interpol an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Try as hard as you can, but sorry to say you have seen the last of your daughter. Thai family will hide her from you, and lie to your face that they are unaware of her whereabouts. Please assumptions are useless If you have legal access to your child then you have a couple of choices, both are going to cost you a lot of money, but one maybe a cheaper and quicker option. You can use a lawyer and go through the legal process and who knows how much that will cost or how long it will take, or hire a private detective to find the child`s whereabouts, then a couple of people to go in at a given opportunity and snatch the child back. If you have legal access to the child and the mother has denied you access then this is not illegal providing no one gets assaulted. If you succeed then will have to beware of her family coming after you to grab the child again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Try as hard as you can, but sorry to say you have seen the last of your daughter. Thai family will hide her from you, and lie to your face that they are unaware of her whereabouts. Please assumptions are useless dude wake up . she is with her new man , file a complaint at the popo station and move on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Funny what the $$$$$$$$$$$ value is for the price of a child. Forget its future, its a blackmail tool here used too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 According to the OP the mother and child are "missing" so the first thing to do is make a missing person report to the police. Secondly if the OP wants to secure custody/access he will have to use the legal system which will involve retaining a lawyer. Attempting to resolve this issue outside a legal framework is doomed to failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I would side with offering her a monthly payment in exchange for the child. If you give her a big lump sum she might be back with more problems. If she's counting on you for, say, 20k per month, she'll probably behave herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Try as hard as you can, but sorry to say you have seen the last of your daughter. Thai family will hide her from you, and lie to your face that they are unaware of her whereabouts. Well done you win the award for most stupid post of the day!! I'd would never give up on seeing my child if I was in the same situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayk Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) The only and best advice I can give you is to speak with a reputable lawyer who specializes in family law. I don't really think TV is the best place to come in order help you in your situation. No offence to the members. Best of luck. Edited February 20, 2016 by Rayk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyDelight Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I would probably hire a farang detective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyDelight Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I would probably hire a farang detective although no idea what it cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Do not listen to any idiot that tell you will never see her again. It all depends on the lengths you are willing to go to, to get her back. It might just be about money, and if you agree to pay 20k a month you will get access, this figure is probably negotiable. By the sounds of it she is only after a payday and you could probably negotiate an amount for full custody. Her actions show she doesn't have the child's best interests at heart. You can also go to court to get an order granting access. She is obviously willing to fight dirty, you might also have to resort to underhand tactics. I personally would do whatever I had to, to get my daughter back and I would never give up. i would do anything to get my kids back as well. dealing with these woman is the same a dealing with terrorists. several of my friends have been given the run around by them when they have kids. best to buy custody if possible, it is easier than fighting it out in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualobserver Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Stay positive. I know three people who have been quote or paid 20k a month in the early years for custody and to avoid the courtroom drama, strangely a common figure (possibly in the book somewhere), sometimes with the "header" the village brokering. At the end of the day for the mother security for family will win, and if she's starting at 20k per month, you just need to find location (more than likely to be her village) and open from there.. 20k a month for full rights, and no drama is probably insignificant given the international school desire, it still sucks though, far from right Edited February 20, 2016 by casualobserver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akentryan Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 It does happen both ways. I have a Thai woman neighbor who had two children fathered by her Italian husband. He "took the kids to the beach one day" but took them on a plane to Italy and is not coming back. I believe they held dual citizenship so it was very easy to do apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounger Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 A mate of mine went through this. He now has custody. the story was related on fb at missinginez. Get in touch.. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlastikbinLina Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I suggest applying to the court for access and telling them she has done a runner. They will send her a summons. If that is not responded to you have something to encourage the police to act on. This suggestion could work but may take some time. If a summons is issued for her to attend the police station the police send a letter to her last known address which is got from the amphur where she got her ID card from. The letter will ask her to report to the nearest police station regarding the issue at hand. If she does not comply with the order another letter follows after 2 weeks, If there is no reply to this second letter a warrant for her arrest is issued, Now in theory, some time down the track, when her ID needs attending to e.g. renewing etc the summons will be evident on the data base and she will be held by the ID officials until the police arrive, I'm told. I do wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canathai8 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Try as hard as you can, but sorry to say you have seen the last of your daughter. Thai family will hide her from you, and lie to your face that they are unaware of her whereabouts. From your comment, I sense and perceive a lonely shell of a man only intent on throwing a little salt on other's wounds, in a vain attempt to sublimate your own inadequacies. I've been wrong before, perhaps you are warm and fuzzy after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rws85 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I m living in phuket for 6 years. I had a baby with a thai women. We have been to the court to legalise my rigths as father in Thailand. That was a year ago, now we are separated for 3 weeks. She made a complain to the police station that i didn take care of my daughter (2 years old). We had a mediation : she was asking for 20000thb/month. I asked to have the guards of the child 3 days per week, to send her to international school (at my cost) and to pay for the bills of my daugther (only). She refused all three topics, then she ran away before signing the report of the mediation. Officially, on the paper, she was not there... but i have recorded the unofficial mediation. The following day, she ran away to bangkok according to her family in Phuket. I tried to call her, phone is open but no answer...i had report this to the police station. What are my options ? Please help me. Best suggestion, don't listen to these negative TV armchair experts. Edited February 20, 2016 by rws85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 May be her heard that old BF is coming back to LOS for a holiday. Could be that after he goes home she will come back to her home of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Funny what the $$$$$$$$$$$ value is for the price of a child. Forget its future, its a blackmail tool here used too often. Children are often used as pawns in their parents game of hate. A child can become the spoils of war when priority is given to the suffering of a partner over the happiness of the child. In England women can consider children as meal tickets for lifelong free welfare support that gives incentives to become one parent families and to dump the fathers of their children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) The court had to decide for dual or single custody of the child during the legalisation process a year ago. If both, a Thai judge will have to decide for the best of the child, which is for instance an International scholarship. Moreover it's very important that the child has ALSO been registered and/or legalised to your country's embassy in Thailand. Custody laws can differ from both countries and it's wise to arrange this 'naturalisation' before Family court decision. By this, international laws will be applicable for all, even the Family court. You don't need to confirm or explain my points over here, after reading some insensitive comments of others. By Thai Law you will have to pay for your GF in respect to the time you've spent together. Surely if you've decided without her to grow up the child separately, which is a difficult and abstract cultural concept in Thailand. Your lawyer will define the best options for you, and your child. Not TV members... Good Luck to all 3 of you ! Edited February 20, 2016 by Thorgal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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