webfact Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Two Girls Thrown from Carnival Ride, Seriously InjuredBy Chayanit ItthipongmaeteeStaff ReporterThe Hurricane ride Sunday night at a fair at Wat Phra That Phanom.NAKHON PHANOM — A carnival ride collapsed into its base and injured several riders at a temple fair on Sunday night.Police and a rescue team arrived at Wat Phra That Phanom to find one arm of the Hurricane-style ride on the ground with two girls unconscious on the ground.Other passengers were stuck up in the air in other cars before emergency personnel climbed up to rescue them. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1456115173 -- Khaosod English 2016-02-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Scary stuff. I hope the girls recover. Time to close these rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobobirdiebuddy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 "A carnival ride collapsed..." I take it that there is no Thai version of: "Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 "Other passengers were stuck up in the air" Were they also Thai? I only ask as the link to this story rather unnecessarily read "two-thai-girls-seriosuly-injured-in-horrific-fairground-accident" Perhaps it was to alleviate any concern that two farang girls were injured? I initially wondered in which country the mishap occurred judging by the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) "A carnival ride collapsed..." I take it that there is no Thai version of: "Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey". The brakes failed. ------------------------------------------ I tried to teach them many, many times the uses of a torque wrench, as part of my job. Example: Rebuilding a 6.2 liter truck diesel engine........USE a torque wrench.....Pffff Farang! No need! The entire concept made them look at me like I had corn growing out of my ears. Head gasket leaked = water in the combustion chamber = bent piston rod = starting all over again from scratch..... = "Please Sir, you are clever. Show me torque wrench?" Try explaining a torque-resistant nut to them (it's tapered on one end as well as slightly oval shaped = it DOES NOT get loose with out extreme, deliberate effort)..... Nah, these nuts from Somchai's shop will be just fine. I tell them, that yes, it will indeed work for a few months, and then it will fall apart.......I get more blank stares. I gave up on trying, and I tried off & on for a decade. This was all with the RTA too..... that pillar of society. Edited February 22, 2016 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usual Suspect Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Jaywalker's account on Thai's using sub-standard or ill-fitting nuts & bolts is correct..I've seen it so many times. The latest was on motorbike/sidecar mountings..the holes for the bolts were way to big..the nuts & bolts had course-threads, & not a washer in sight..it's the norm here..Ho-hum. As a foot note I checked the video shown above..after the ride starts to go haywire it seems to take a long time to bring it to a halt..(sound familiar?) Never mind the condition of the brake mechanism (if fitted)..was there anyone supervising this ride..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) "A carnival ride collapsed..." I take it that there is no Thai version of: "Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey". The brakes failed. ------------------------------------------ I tried to teach them many, many times the uses of a torque wrench, as part of my job. Example: Rebuilding a 6.2 liter truck diesel engine........USE a torque wrench.....Pffff Farang! No need! The entire concept made them look at me like I had corn growing out of my ears. Head gasket leaked = water in the combustion chamber = bent piston rod = starting all over again from scratch..... = "Please Sir, you are clever. Show me torque wrench?" Try explaining a torque-resistant nut to them (it's tapered on one end as well as slightly oval shaped = it DOES NOT get loose with out extreme, deliberate effort)..... Nah, these nuts from Somchai's shop will be just fine. I tell them, that yes, it will indeed work for a few months, and then it will fall apart.......I get more blank stares. I gave up on trying, and I tried off & on for a decade. This was all with the RTA too..... that pillar of society. They NEVER learn and NEVER will in my opinion unless it costs them financially. On top of that Ive always found a look of "surprise" when something like this happens as if totally unexpected. Edited February 22, 2016 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickylies Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Safety first ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I went to Dreamworld when it first opened. most of the rides were from old carny rides from my childhood. In other words Deathtraps. When I see these fly by night seasonal carnivals here I just shake my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? To Quote Abba....Money money money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? Surely, you jest. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Edited February 22, 2016 by sunnyjim5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? ... Brown envelope.... check good good, OK OK. All from under the shade of nearby umbrella and iced glass of Singha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Jaywalker's account on Thai's using sub-standard or ill-fitting nuts & bolts is correct..I've seen it so many times. The latest was on motorbike/sidecar mountings..the holes for the bolts were way to big..the nuts & bolts had course-threads, & not a washer in sight..it's the norm here..Ho-hum. As a foot note I checked the video shown above..after the ride starts to go haywire it seems to take a long time to bring it to a halt..(sound familiar?) Never mind the condition of the brake mechanism (if fitted)..was there anyone supervising this ride..?? Yes, Somchai was manning the state of the art, non-skid, anti-lock super safe brake mechanism I'm sure. He was highly qualified and being paid 300 baht per day. The man had his game face on and was stomping the tar out of the brake pedal, but....... The brakes failed. ----------------------------- Back to the injured, and back to seriousness, I'm glad my daughter wasn't on that 'ride'. I hope they all heal up well and soon. I hate to hear about folks, especially kids getting hurt. I can always picture my daughter getting hurt when I read about such as this and it makes me feel very strange in a not very good way. I'd lose my mind if my daughter got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I was at a fairground with some close Thai friends... I saw the ferris wheel looking very dilapidated. I took a couple of photo's of rusted bolts and areas where the bolts were missing and showed them to my friend when his son wanted to go on the ride. I also showed them to his son, who after looking at the photos was smart enough not to want to go on the ride anymore. Needless to say, nothing happened that evening... but its a good example of why I'll never let my Child go on any of those fairground rides in Thailand. Due to completely carelessness a lack of responsibility and culpability these rides are an accident waiting to happen... it really is a shame, however, its also fortunate that there aren't more accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? ... Brown envelope.... check good good, OK OK. All from under the shade of nearby umbrella and iced glass of Singha. Nah, they'd be sipping Johnny Walker from inside an air conditioned office and never get within 10 miles of what they supposed to inspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing This is a slightly illogical argument. The question is not whether such occurrences occur in the West or not, but what is the relative frequency at which they happen? No sane person would argue such accidents don't happen in the West, just as no sane person would declare that it doesn't rain in Los Angeles. But it would be perfectly true to call Los Angeles "sunny" and London "rainy" without intending to suggest that London never has a sunny day, nor LA a wet one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I was at a fairground with some close Thai friends... I saw the ferris wheel looking very dilapidated. I took a couple of photo's of rusted bolts and areas where the bolts were missing and showed them to my friend when his son wanted to go on the ride. I also showed them to his son, who after looking at the photos was smart enough not to want to go on the ride anymore. Needless to say, nothing happened that evening... but its a good example of why I'll never let my Child go on any of those fairground rides in Thailand. Due to completely carelessness a lack of responsibility and culpability these rides are an accident waiting to happen... it really is a shame, however, its also fortunate that there aren't more accidents. Off topic here a bit, but not much.... Walking Street a few years back, down near the far south end, which was somewhat quiet back then, there was an electric pole with something seriously wrong. It was making LOUD electrical popping noises (wires hanging by the bazillion all over it - of course), and had a bright blue arc every 3 or 4 seconds. I made my way up to the North end of Walking Street & told the cops sitting in the middle of the road at their desk. One guy spoke perfect American English & said "Yeah. It does that all the time. Don't worry about it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Why not check the quantity of each countries accident rate first before accusing of Thai bashing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Ah, I was wondering when the Knights would ride to the rescue. Thank you for confirming my thinking. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing This is a Thai forum last time I checked, so we talk about what Thai people do. Yes the 'Carnies' as we call the people who work at carnivals in the USA are one STRANGE bunch of people, and the rides aren't much safer, but this is a Thai forum, so we tend to discuss our experiences with Thai people. It's not Thai bashing. I've met a few decent mechanics in Thailand, but never met one who wasn't willing to take a shortcut when I had my back turned. One must admit, it IS a different culture in more ways than one, and I have been in the trenches working with Thai mechanics. They hired me to show them how to do something, and ignored what I told them and showed them in the technical manuals...for 10 years I tried this. About 5% would get it. 95% just wanted to do it their own way. I have sat in meetings with generals in the RTA telling them their brake 60 % of the calipers were leaking when they wanted to send the trucks to Sudan. They just grinned at me, put new tires & reupholstered the seats, and put a UN paint job on 20 year old truck with leaves and garbage in the brake system. Steering linkage falling apart etc, etc etc Deathtraps headed for a combat zone. It looked good outside, so that was all that mattered. Edited February 22, 2016 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyjim5 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Why not check the quantity of each countries accident rate first before accusing of Thai bashing? Why don't you provide the figures if you wish to make a point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Gosh. What to say. Sad, yes. You could NOT get me to ride in anything like that in a country like this. I will leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building.Or even the same looking guys fumbling around with the lifts in your 30 story office building in the central business district... Can't trust anything. No competent folks setting it up, I reckon. It's like those times when you return home and see some repairman in shower shoes and shorts repairing the lift in your 20 storey apartment building. And why no officials tasked to check the equipment before it starts taking riders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Why not check the quantity of each countries accident rate first before accusing of Thai bashing? Why don't you provide the figures if you wish to make a point ? Why don't you express your thoughts of working with Thai mechanics for a decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 An accident occurs --------------cue the Thai bashing comment. To read some of these comments one would believe such occurrences never occur in the West ------------------------ http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2015/jun/02/alton-towers-rollercoaster-accident-four-seriously-hurt-as-carriages-collide Read the link and indulge in some "farang" bashing Why not check the quantity of each countries accident rate first before accusing of Thai bashing? Why don't you provide the figures if you wish to make a point ? Youre the one making the assumption matey not me, YOU provide the figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Why am I surprised that no (Thai) was seriously injured this week while preparing a cup of coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 There's only one thing more dangerous than a carnival ride in Thailand, and that's a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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