German court meets to consider banning far-right NPD party

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German court meets to consider banning far-right NPD party



KARLSRUHE: -- Germany’s Federal Constitutional Court has begun a hearing on whether to ban the far-right NPD party.

The session in Karlsruhe is set to last three days. A ruling isn’t expected for several months.

The move follows a referral from the Bundesrat, the upper house of parliament, which believes the NPD should be banned because it “wants to destabilise and bring down the liberal-democratic order” in an “aggressive and combative manner”.

The German government describes the far-right party as “anti-democratic, xenophobic, anti-Semitic and against the Constitution”. But Chancellor Merkel declined to back the Bundesrat’s move.

In the country’s recent history parties have only been banned on two occasions, both in the 1950s.

A previous attempt to ban the party in 2003 failed.

Some experts and anti-racist campaigners believe it would be a bad idea now, arguing the real battle is against far-right ideology, with the urgent priority being to prevent attacks on refugee shelters.


-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-03-02

[canuckamuck]

"Some experts and anti-racist campaigners believe it would be a bad idea now, arguing the real battle is against far-right ideology"

I would say the real battle would be to save Europe from far left socialist ideology.

[mokwit]

"wants to destabilise and bring down the liberal-democratic order” in an “aggressive and combative manner”.

Sounds like the recent arrivals.

[Lukecan]

I thought Europe was the bastion of democracy? Banning a political party for their ideas? Typical western hypocrisy.

[mokwit]

No, typical Left wing - ban anybody who opposes us (use of 'fascist' accusation the usual tactic)

[jpinx]

Socialism gone crazy - the EU welcome is over but they have re-invented the far right. Talk about short-sightedness! Similar right-wing revolts have been going on in Sweden, Austria, etc., but Germany has to "lead the way" with the socialists banning their opposition. Sounds like Putin or a well-known general somewhere around,,,,,

[DM07]

If you don't have a clue, what you are talking about...why not stop talking about it?

This is not a leftist move! Germany has been trying to ban the NPD for decades...and rightfully so, as they are the direct decendants of the NSDAP!

There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!

The NPD has racism in it's manifesto and wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people!

There can be no negotiation on that!

Ever!

[shirtless]

If they dont agree with the PC idiots running the EU ban them , In a democracy people have the right to freedom of speech,

[mokwit]

If you don't have a clue, what you are talking about...why not stop talking about it?

This is not a leftist move! Germany has been trying to ban the NPD for decades...and rightfully so, as they are the direct decendants of the NSDAP!

There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!

The NPD has racism in it's manifesto and wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people!

There can be no negotiation on that!

Ever!

"There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!"

Ok so by the same token, ban and no vote and no right of speech for anybody who wants to impose anti democracy totalitarian Shariah on the rest of the population even more so as it "wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people". Glad we've got that settled.

Edited March 2, 2016 by mokwit

[pitrevie]

If they dont agree with the PC idiots running the EU ban them , In a democracy people have the right to freedom of speech,

The only problem being that as we have seen in the past whenever you allow extremes to take over they tend to pull up the ladder behind them and never release their grip on power. I think the Germans more than most understand that.

[jpinx]

If they dont agree with the PC idiots running the EU ban them , In a democracy people have the right to freedom of speech,

The only problem being that as we have seen in the past whenever you allow extremes to take over they tend to pull up the ladder behind them and never release their grip on power. I think the Germans more than most understand that.

Well -- if they "understand" that so well -- <deleted> are they doing letting all the muslims in?

[razer]

On July 14, 1933, Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Party officially declared itself the only political party in Germany and outlawed the formation of any other parties. Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany on Jan. 30, 1933. Immediately, he set in place a plan to take full control of the country’s political and economic institutions using a policy called “Gleichschaltung,” meaning a switch to the same wavelength.

If there were a Muslim right wing political party calling for a duality of law, Sharia for Muslims and civil for non Muslims as in Malaysia, I think the German courts would be too afraid to even consider banning them.

Edited March 2, 2016 by razer

[Steely Dan]

I see they are aggressively treating the symptoms whilst keeping completely silent about the underlying cause, which is the internationalist far left plus the far right that is Islamic supremacism.

[baboon]

If you don't have a clue, what you are talking about...why not stop talking about it?

This is not a leftist move! Germany has been trying to ban the NPD for decades...and rightfully so, as they are the direct decendants of the NSDAP!

There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!

The NPD has racism in it's manifesto and wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people!

There can be no negotiation on that!

Ever!

Maybe yes, maybe no. However this is certainly not the time for Germany to be chasing its own tail and licking its balls. Edited March 2, 2016 by baboon

[jpinx]

One doesn't like to single out a nation for it's tendencies - so lets "out" a few more -- Sweden is coping with a huge rightwing backlash, as is Hungary. Austria "is" rightwing - they just can't find room to flex their muscles. If anything is going to push the Brits into a Brexit - this topic is likely the decider. If Germany is the "Great European Leader" they like to think they are - then this problem should be nipped in the bud immediately and Merkel castigated for allowing courts to decide what is or is not the "will of the people". Laws are in place to prevent and punish crimes against the people, not against political parties -- no matter how abhorrant some of their ideas are.

Replacing the swastika with a crescent does not make any sense to anyone.

Edited March 2, 2016 by jpinx

[mopar71]

Sounds like German courts are blaming the victim.

Of course there is a big right-wing backlash in European countries. Their leaders have invited in an invading army which is literally raping and pillaging its way across the EU. The governments and press ignore and cover-up these crimes and the people are fed up and take to the streets.

Banning a political party won't turn the people into migrant-loving leftists. It will only drive their efforts underground where it will be harder to keep track of the serious azzholes among them.

So banning them would be stupid (besides undemocratic). But then again, the German authorities were stupid for inviting the swarms of migrants in the first place and I don't have faith that they have grown any additional brain cells since then.

[i claudius]

If they dont agree with the PC idiots running the EU ban them , In a democracy people have the right to freedom of speech,

The only problem being that as we have seen in the past whenever you allow extremes to take over they tend to pull up the ladder behind them and never release their grip on power. I think the Germans more than most understand that.

So a bit like the P.C left wing then,they are the other side of the coin

[Hammock]

Sorry, the topic is about Germany but It would be great if Merkel could do something to ban neo-nazi parties and far-right organizations in Ukraine which is sponsored by the EU. Just to name a few: pro-fascist "Far Right Sector", "Svoboda", far-right nationalist Radical Party (a member of parliament), the followers of UPA/OUN - Nazi collaboratos during WWII who were involved in the final solution of the Jewish question - all these thugs are feeling very comfortable nowadays in Ukraine.

Edited March 2, 2016 by Hammock

[chilli42]

Does the NDP party by any chance have an Austrian leader?

[chilli42]

Sounds like German courts are blaming the victim.

Of course there is a big right-wing backlash in European countries. Their leaders have invited in an invading army which is literally raping and pillaging its way across the EU. The governments and press ignore and cover-up these crimes and the people are fed up and take to the streets.

Banning a political party won't turn the people into migrant-loving leftists. It will only drive their efforts underground where it will be harder to keep track of the serious azzholes among them.

So banning them would be stupid (besides undemocratic). But then again, the German authorities were stupid for inviting the swarms of migrants in the first place and I don't have faith that they have grown any additional brain cells since then.

As I have said numerous times on this forum, the situation unfolding in Europe will accelerate the fall of the left leaning democratic institutions that have ruled Europe since the 1950's and enable the rise of right wing "socialism". In my view it's simply a matter of time as the current governments are incapable of action.

[NeilSA1]

The photo records how short-sighted the members of Germany's Federal Constitutional Court are. What ARE they looking for?

[GAZZPA]

I thought Europe was the bastion of democracy? Banning a political party for their ideas? Typical western hypocrisy.

Far right, extreme ideals. They always seem to materialize during times of hardship attacking the immigration system (which does need some reform) and praying on peoples insecurities. How do think Hitler got in?

[gandalf12]

They can ban the name but you cant very well ban the people who are members of the group so what real use is the name banning going to achieve?

[Steely Dan]

Sounds like German courts are blaming the victim.

Of course there is a big right-wing backlash in European countries. Their leaders have invited in an invading army which is literally raping and pillaging its way across the EU. The governments and press ignore and cover-up these crimes and the people are fed up and take to the streets.

Banning a political party won't turn the people into migrant-loving leftists. It will only drive their efforts underground where it will be harder to keep track of the serious azzholes among them.

So banning them would be stupid (besides undemocratic). But then again, the German authorities were stupid for inviting the swarms of migrants in the first place and I don't have faith that they have grown any additional brain cells since then.

As I have said numerous times on this forum, the situation unfolding in Europe will accelerate the fall of the left leaning democratic institutions that have ruled Europe since the 1950's and enable the rise of right wing "socialism". In my view it's simply a matter of time as the current governments are incapable of action.

Current governments are incapable of action because they were motivated by the ideology of international socialism. Now this has failed they don't have a plan 'b' so will persist with mass immigration whilst trying ever more draconian measures to crush dissent.

[Schwabe]

If you don't have a clue, what you are talking about...why not stop talking about it?

This is not a leftist move! Germany has been trying to ban the NPD for decades...and rightfully so, as they are the direct decendants of the NSDAP!

There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!

The NPD has racism in it's manifesto and wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people!

There can be no negotiation on that!

Ever!

I am surely not a fan of the NPD but if people vote for this party(for whatever reasons ever) then thats it..that is democracy....trying to ban whatever...political parties, drugs and so on has alwaysled to the opposite..

[DM07]

If you don't have a clue, what you are talking about...why not stop talking about it?

This is not a leftist move! Germany has been trying to ban the NPD for decades...and rightfully so, as they are the direct decendants of the NSDAP!

There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!

The NPD has racism in it's manifesto and wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people!

There can be no negotiation on that!

Ever!

"There can not be a political discourse on a democratic platform with the people, who want to rid of that democratic platform!"

Ok so by the same token, ban and no vote and no right of speech for anybody who wants to impose anti democracy totalitarian Shariah on the rest of the population even more so as it "wants to take away basic human rights from certain groups of people". Glad we've got that settled.

a) they can SAY whatever they like- but yes, there can be no political discourse, because it is simply not based on the constitution and on human rights!

b ) yes- also there should be no discussion, if you are allowed to eat little children or shoot the elderly with BB- guns!

It is against the law and the constitution!

Why has that to be spelled out?

[pitrevie]

If they dont agree with the PC idiots running the EU ban them , In a democracy people have the right to freedom of speech,

The only problem being that as we have seen in the past whenever you allow extremes to take over they tend to pull up the ladder behind them and never release their grip on power. I think the Germans more than most understand that.

So a bit like the P.C left wing then,they are the other side of the coin

I agree, the extreme left is just as dangerous as the extreme right both do everything they can to attain power and then once they have it refuse to allow any challenge to their authority or their removal from power. Does that make it simpler for you?