Is it too late to stop the Donald Trump machine?

[ilostmypassword]

I see that the LEFTs and LAFTs are still cutting and pasting the media lies about Trump - while adding their own immature and illogical abuse and rhetoric.

This is an exact cut from a CNN post that is FULL of mistruths and lies about Trump - and this is why Trump will win.

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism. On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/18/politics/orlando-terror-attack-politics/index.html

Lets take a look at that statement is the cold hard light of TRUTH!!

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism.

THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted as followed ( I get them):

1. Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded. Then an hour or so later:

2. Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?

Then over an hour later - AFTER getting thousands of tweets saying he is right and congratulating him for being the only one willing to speak the truth about Islamic Terrorism (and 78,000 likes), he tweeted:

3. Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage

THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted: Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace! He further stated during his speeches over several hours/days that Obama was weak and had very little to deal with the ever growing threat of radical Islam terrorism. Trump stated that Obama was more concerned about offending Islamic people than protecting Americans.

and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.

THE TRUTH: Whilst CNN is atypically biased against Trump - and FOX is atypically biased towards Trump, the Washington Post is the same as some of the anti-Trump posters on TV - the Post has gone completely off the rails. Trump and his supporters have been complaining about the bias and lies coming out of the Post for over 6 months. They have made formal complaints and even other media outlets have questioned their integrity - but the Post has refused to change - they see it as their job to make sure the American people don't vote for Trump and they have fabricated lies and stories for a long time. Trump finally had enough and formally banned them from his events. The Post is so bad that Trump tweeted this: I am no fan of President Obama, but to show you how dishonest the phony Washington Post is, they wrote, "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting" as their headline. Sad!

These days the people are a lot smarter about 'the truth' - they know that politically savvy people like the Clintons are experts at 'stroking' the media and always saying the right thing (but not the truth) - same as the Underwoods in 'House of Cards'. This is endemic across both Democrats and GOP - and the people know that - more and more and more. The people want an 'outsider' to take over and set things right - just like they wanted Reagan who was also an outsider and was also ridiculed. The people thought that they got the same for George Bush - but he was clearly just pretending to be like Reagan - so they tried Bill - MISTAKE. So they went back to the GOP and tried GeorgeW - MISTAKE. So then they tried the educated and articulate 'minority' (African American) - and after a while they realised that was a MISTAKE too. So now they have two choices - try another outsider (Trump) or go for another minority (Female) who is part of the system they have learned to mistrust. Unlike in the UK where everyone can see each side of Brexit - those for it want a free/self-managed UK and those against have a vested interest in keeping the status quo - each 'side' of the choice in America is not so clear. But that Trump is clearly the vilified outsider who will take a broom to everything and clean out the place, and HRC is the in-system minority who will entrench the power of the status-quo, is clear. Hopefully the girls will realise HRC aint the best choice as the first female POTUS, and will wait for the next female candidate (Trump's VP?).

Who exactly are "the people"? Overwhelmingly not African Americans. Overwhelmingly not Latinos. Overwhelmingly not Jews. Overwhelmingly not Asian Americans. So I don't really wonder who you have in mind when you assert "the people" support Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln : "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address

Huh? So you are saying that "the people" Abraham Lincoln was referring to are Trump supporters? I don't get it.

[iReason]

Trump’s poll numbers sink into death spiral on the one-year anniversary of his campaign’s start

"It’s been one year since Donald Trump took that fateful ride down the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for President of the United States,

and his poll numbers are absolutely tanking despite the fact that he’s seemingly locked down the Republican nomination for the presidency."

"Here is a chart from Real Clear Politics that shows what’s happened to Trump’s polling averages ever since he got a brief boost after clinching his status as the presumptive Republican nominee."

"What’s particularly devastating about this from Trump’s perspective is that his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton hasn’t gained all that much in the past three weeks,

instead, it’s mostly been about Trump spiraling downward." Reality.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trumps-poll-numbers-sink-into-death-spiral-on-the-one-year-anniversary-of-his-campaigns-start/

[iReason]

Trump's charity claims could violate fraud laws

He could be held liable if he failed to fulfill promises to donate proceeds from his book, 'Crippled America.'

"If Donald Trump’s claims that certain of his commercial ventures benefit charity are untrue, he could be held liable under Section 349 of New York’s General Business Law,

which forbids deceptive business acts and practices, as well as under charitable solicitation laws, according to legal experts."

"In promoting products as varied as Trump University, Trump Vodka, a Trump board game, and his new book “Crippled America,”

the businessman has declared that the proceeds would go to charity."

"None of Trump’s proceeds from Trump University have gone to charity, and only a few hundred dollars of charitable giving related to Trump Vodka, has been accounted for. News organizations, have been unable to verify his other claims,

and his representatives have been unwilling to provide more information about them, or even to confirm them."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-charities-fraud-laws-224510#ixzz4C7B3SZXy

The article details the Bloviator's many claims of "Donating to Charity". All unsubstantiated.

Edited June 20, 2016 by iReason

[Chicog]

Trump's charity claims could violate fraud laws

He could be held liable if he failed to fulfill promises to donate proceeds from his book, 'Crippled America.'

"If Donald Trump’s claims that certain of his commercial ventures benefit charity are untrue, he could be held liable under Section 349 of New York’s General Business Law,

which forbids deceptive business acts and practices, as well as under charitable solicitation laws, according to legal experts."

"In promoting products as varied as Trump University, Trump Vodka, a Trump board game, and his new book “Crippled America,”

the businessman has declared that the proceeds would go to charity."

"None of Trump’s proceeds from Trump University have gone to charity, and only a few hundred dollars of charitable giving related to Trump Vodka, has been accounted for. News organizations, have been unable to verify his other claims,

and his representatives have been unwilling to provide more information about them, or even to confirm them."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-charities-fraud-laws-224510#ixzz4C7B3SZXy

The article details the Bloviator's many claims of "Donating to Charity". All unsubstantiated.

I think he'll get away with this one, as he almost certainly didn't write it, so he can blame it on the ghostwriter.

[slipperylobster]

Trump’s poll numbers sink into death spiral on the one-year anniversary of his campaign’s start

"It’s been one year since Donald Trump took that fateful ride down the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for President of the United States,

and his poll numbers are absolutely tanking despite the fact that he’s seemingly locked down the Republican nomination for the presidency."

"Here is a chart from Real Clear Politics that shows what’s happened to Trump’s polling averages ever since he got a brief boost after clinching his status as the presumptive Republican nominee."

"What’s particularly devastating about this from Trump’s perspective is that his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton hasn’t gained all that much in the past three weeks,

instead, it’s mostly been about Trump spiraling downward." Reality.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trumps-poll-numbers-sink-into-death-spiral-on-the-one-year-anniversary-of-his-campaigns-start/

Why stop there?

Both Trump and Hillary are tied at well over fifty percent untrustworthy.

also, the AP poll has Hillary dropping 5 (quite a dip from 15)

polls sure are funny...eh?

[iReason]

Dump Trump? Paul Ryan leaves door open to Republican convention revolt

"Pressure for one last attempt to dump Donald Trump built among Republicans on Sunday,

as the party’s leader appeared to encourage a possible revolt that could still see an alternative nominee chosen at next month’s national convention."

"After a week in which the presumptive nominee appalled many colleagues with his reaction to a shooting massacre in Orlando,

House speaker Paul Ryan made clear he would not try to obstruct any rebellion against Trump by delegates in Cleveland."

“They write the rules, they make the decisions,” he told NBC’s Meet the Press.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/paul-ryan-donald-trump-republican-convention

The Albatross. The Bloviator.

[BB24]

I see that the LEFTs and LAFTs are still cutting and pasting the media lies about Trump - while adding their own immature and illogical abuse and rhetoric.

This is an exact cut from a CNN post that is FULL of mistruths and lies about Trump - and this is why Trump will win.

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism. On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/18/politics/orlando-terror-attack-politics/index.html

Lets take a look at that statement is the cold hard light of TRUTH!!

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism.

THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted as followed ( I get them):

1. Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded. Then an hour or so later:

2. Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?

Then over an hour later - AFTER getting thousands of tweets saying he is right and congratulating him for being the only one willing to speak the truth about Islamic Terrorism (and 78,000 likes), he tweeted:

3. Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage

THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted: Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace! He further stated during his speeches over several hours/days that Obama was weak and had very little to deal with the ever growing threat of radical Islam terrorism. Trump stated that Obama was more concerned about offending Islamic people than protecting Americans.

and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.

THE TRUTH: Whilst CNN is atypically biased against Trump - and FOX is atypically biased towards Trump, the Washington Post is the same as some of the anti-Trump posters on TV - the Post has gone completely off the rails. Trump and his supporters have been complaining about the bias and lies coming out of the Post for over 6 months. They have made formal complaints and even other media outlets have questioned their integrity - but the Post has refused to change - they see it as their job to make sure the American people don't vote for Trump and they have fabricated lies and stories for a long time. Trump finally had enough and formally banned them from his events. The Post is so bad that Trump tweeted this: I am no fan of President Obama, but to show you how dishonest the phony Washington Post is, they wrote, "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting" as their headline. Sad!

These days the people are a lot smarter about 'the truth' - they know that politically savvy people like the Clintons are experts at 'stroking' the media and always saying the right thing (but not the truth) - same as the Underwoods in 'House of Cards'. This is endemic across both Democrats and GOP - and the people know that - more and more and more. The people want an 'outsider' to take over and set things right - just like they wanted Reagan who was also an outsider and was also ridiculed. The people thought that they got the same for George Bush - but he was clearly just pretending to be like Reagan - so they tried Bill - MISTAKE. So they went back to the GOP and tried GeorgeW - MISTAKE. So then they tried the educated and articulate 'minority' (African American) - and after a while they realised that was a MISTAKE too. So now they have two choices - try another outsider (Trump) or go for another minority (Female) who is part of the system they have learned to mistrust. Unlike in the UK where everyone can see each side of Brexit - those for it want a free/self-managed UK and those against have a vested interest in keeping the status quo - each 'side' of the choice in America is not so clear. But that Trump is clearly the vilified outsider who will take a broom to everything and clean out the place, and HRC is the in-system minority who will entrench the power of the status-quo, is clear. Hopefully the girls will realise HRC aint the best choice as the first female POTUS, and will wait for the next female candidate (Trump's VP?).

Who exactly are "the people"? Overwhelmingly not African Americans. Overwhelmingly not Latinos. Overwhelmingly not Jews. Overwhelmingly not Asian Americans. So I don't really wonder who you have in mind when you assert "the people" support Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln : "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address

Huh? So you are saying that "the people" Abraham Lincoln was referring to are Trump supporters? I don't get it.

Democrat/Liberal being deliberately 'slow' and 'obtusive' me thinks - but arent they usually that way.

Just think of those that vote in November as a group. Now think of that group and you will see that the group is actually many people - commonly referred to since Lincoln as 'the people'.

Many years ago 'the people' were naive about politics and got their information from the mainstream media - first print, then radia and print, then TV, radio and print.

If the media organisations recommended/supported one candidate, that was the one that a majority of that group ('the people') voted for.

Unfortunately, over time, many media outlets have become biased and sensationalists - more interested in pushing agendas and getting ratings/hits.

The truth has become the last thing many media outlets think about nowadays - especially the Washington Post (who is yet again trying to derail the Republicans).

The good news (not for Dems/Libs) is that 'the people' are getting their 'news' more from non-mainstream sources (Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Blogs, etc etc) and the old school mainstream media outlets are not as influential as they used to be (and in my opinion at the next POTUS election in 2020 will be irrelevant.

Therefore a majority of the voters (the people) will elect a POTUS in November 2016 - and more and more of them are seeing both Trump and HRC for what they really are.

Trump aint perfect and he aint no Angel - but unlike HRC he doesn't claim to be - and also unlike HRC he is not crooked and incompetent.

And the people are 'seeing' that more and more - and the more the mainstream media lie about Trump, the more 'the people' will see it for what it is - the status quo trying to stay in power.

HRC just had a great few weeks (and Trump a very poor week) - and yet Trump is still in the race and is already bouncing back.

Trump just keeps on keeping on - he aint gonna back away - and it IS too late to stop him.

[dutchisaan]

I see that the LEFTs and LAFTs are still cutting and pasting the media lies about Trump - while adding their own immature and illogical abuse and rhetoric.

This is an exact cut from a CNN post that is FULL of mistruths and lies about Trump - and this is why Trump will win.

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism. On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/18/politics/orlando-terror-attack-politics/index.html

Lets take a look at that statement is the cold hard light of TRUTH!!

Hours after Sunday's attack unfolded, he issued a self-congratulatory tweet that noted his long stance that radical Islam leads to terrorism.
THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted as followed ( I get them):
1. Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded. Then an hour or so later:
2. Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families. When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant?
Then over an hour later - AFTER getting thousands of tweets saying he is right and congratulating him for being the only one willing to speak the truth about Islamic Terrorism (and 78,000 likes), he tweeted:
3. Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

On Monday, he implied Obama was somehow complicit or sympathetic toward the U.S.-born Muslim who went on the rampage
THE TRUTH: Trump tweeted: Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace! He further stated during his speeches over several hours/days that Obama was weak and had very little to deal with the ever growing threat of radical Islam terrorism. Trump stated that Obama was more concerned about offending Islamic people than protecting Americans.

and later snatched away the campaign credentials of The Washington Post when it reported on his comments.
THE TRUTH: Whilst CNN is atypically biased against Trump - and FOX is atypically biased towards Trump, the Washington Post is the same as some of the anti-Trump posters on TV - the Post has gone completely off the rails. Trump and his supporters have been complaining about the bias and lies coming out of the Post for over 6 months. They have made formal complaints and even other media outlets have questioned their integrity - but the Post has refused to change - they see it as their job to make sure the American people don't vote for Trump and they have fabricated lies and stories for a long time. Trump finally had enough and formally banned them from his events. The Post is so bad that Trump tweeted this: I am no fan of President Obama, but to show you how dishonest the phony Washington Post is, they wrote, "Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting" as their headline. Sad!

These days the people are a lot smarter about 'the truth' - they know that politically savvy people like the Clintons are experts at 'stroking' the media and always saying the right thing (but not the truth) - same as the Underwoods in 'House of Cards'. This is endemic across both Democrats and GOP - and the people know that - more and more and more. The people want an 'outsider' to take over and set things right - just like they wanted Reagan who was also an outsider and was also ridiculed. The people thought that they got the same for George Bush - but he was clearly just pretending to be like Reagan - so they tried Bill - MISTAKE. So they went back to the GOP and tried GeorgeW - MISTAKE. So then they tried the educated and articulate 'minority' (African American) - and after a while they realised that was a MISTAKE too. So now they have two choices - try another outsider (Trump) or go for another minority (Female) who is part of the system they have learned to mistrust. Unlike in the UK where everyone can see each side of Brexit - those for it want a free/self-managed UK and those against have a vested interest in keeping the status quo - each 'side' of the choice in America is not so clear. But that Trump is clearly the vilified outsider who will take a broom to everything and clean out the place, and HRC is the in-system minority who will entrench the power of the status-quo, is clear. Hopefully the girls will realise HRC aint the best choice as the first female POTUS, and will wait for the next female candidate (Trump's VP?).

Who exactly are "the people"? Overwhelmingly not African Americans. Overwhelmingly not Latinos. Overwhelmingly not Jews. Overwhelmingly not Asian Americans. So I don't really wonder who you have in mind when you assert "the people" support Donald Trump.

Abraham Lincoln : "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address

Huh? So you are saying that "the people" Abraham Lincoln was referring to are Trump supporters? I don't get it.

Democrat/Liberal being deliberately 'slow' and 'obtusive' me thinks - but arent they usually that way.

Just think of those that vote in November as a group. Now think of that group and you will see that the group is actually many people - commonly referred to since Lincoln as 'the people'.
Many years ago 'the people' were naive about politics and got their information from the mainstream media - first print, then radia and print, then TV, radio and print.
If the media organisations recommended/supported one candidate, that was the one that a majority of that group ('the people') voted for.
Unfortunately, over time, many media outlets have become biased and sensationalists - more interested in pushing agendas and getting ratings/hits.
The truth has become the last thing many media outlets think about nowadays - especially the Washington Post (who is yet again trying to derail the Republicans).
The good news (not for Dems/Libs) is that 'the people' are getting their 'news' more from non-mainstream sources (Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Blogs, etc etc) and the old school mainstream media outlets are not as influential as they used to be (and in my opinion at the next POTUS election in 2020 will be irrelevant.

Therefore a majority of the voters (the people) will elect a POTUS in November 2016 - and more and more of them are seeing both Trump and HRC for what they really are.
Trump aint perfect and he aint no Angel - but unlike HRC he doesn't claim to be - and also unlike HRC he is not crooked and incompetent.
And the people are 'seeing' that more and more - and the more the mainstream media lie about Trump, the more 'the people' will see it for what it is - the status quo trying to stay in power.

HRC just had a great few weeks (and Trump a very poor week) - and yet Trump is still in the race and is already bouncing back.
Trump just keeps on keeping on - he aint gonna back away - and it IS too late to stop him.

Yes, your buddy Trump keeps going on, to a trainwreck!!!!!
Why is it with you donald supporters that you hate everybody and when your hero say something, you believe him! Even when he makes a 180 degree turn a few hours later?
I don't like hrc, but you know what? It will be better than the ............. Trump machine.

[boomerangutang]

Republican wheeler dealers must be tearing the last fuzzy tufts of their hair out over The Divider. They helped create the 5,000 lb orange blob but now they can't put him back in the test tube. They were ever-hopeful when he was 2 points ahead of HRC a 6 weeks ago. They thought, "maybe we'll be ok. Maybe he can win in sprite of himself." Since then, he's been tanking like a mafia hit with concrete shoes dropped in the East river.

And the polls don't show how 1/4 of American voters are going to vote. I'm referring to Sander's fans. Just after the Dem convention, most of them will side with HRC, so that will further swell her numbers. Similar dynamic won't happen with Trump. He's got his die-hard fan base which won't waver , and then his small group of 'reluctant-Trumpsters' who are abandoning the hay wagon.

Whatever lead HRC has now, will only grow. Head-in-the-sand Trumpsters who refuse to listen to anything she says are a relatively small minority. Most undecideds will hear some of what HRC says, and will come over to her camp, albeit some will do so reluctantly.

[iReason]

"the AP Poll"? Where is that? Link?

Unless you mean Basketball and Football...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Poll

Polls are funny, especially if they are fabricated.

Here's one that is not imaginary:

http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM651Y15_13/filters/LIKELY:1/type/smallest/dates/20160401-20160617/collapsed/true/spotlight/1

Edited June 20, 2016 by iReason

[slipperylobster]

Dump Trump? Paul Ryan leaves door open to Republican convention revolt

"Pressure for one last attempt to dump Donald Trump built among Republicans on Sunday,

as the party’s leader appeared to encourage a possible revolt that could still see an alternative nominee chosen at next month’s national convention."

"After a week in which the presumptive nominee appalled many colleagues with his reaction to a shooting massacre in Orlando,

House speaker Paul Ryan made clear he would not try to obstruct any rebellion against Trump by delegates in Cleveland."

“They write the rules, they make the decisions,” he told NBC’s Meet the Press.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/paul-ryan-donald-trump-republican-convention

The Albatross. The Bloviator.

Use your common sense.

Republicans split and Trump takes 90 percent of the voters with him. Whatever is left, has no chance at victory.

He just runs as an independent.

Best outcome.....drop Hillary and we drop trump, but no way that will happen, eh?

just rip up the whole democratic process....because Trump played by the rules, fair and square.

What you have here, should they change the rules, is a potential stalemate. Nobody wins....Obama uses "special powers in times of crises" and gets a third term. That will be your option.....not a good one.

Pray that they don't attempt to replace Trump....because....you get Obama again.....

Edited June 20, 2016 by slipperylobster

[Berkshire]

Trump’s poll numbers sink into death spiral on the one-year anniversary of his campaign’s start

"It’s been one year since Donald Trump took that fateful ride down the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for President of the United States,

and his poll numbers are absolutely tanking despite the fact that he’s seemingly locked down the Republican nomination for the presidency."

"Here is a chart from Real Clear Politics that shows what’s happened to Trump’s polling averages ever since he got a brief boost after clinching his status as the presumptive Republican nominee."

"What’s particularly devastating about this from Trump’s perspective is that his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton hasn’t gained all that much in the past three weeks,

instead, it’s mostly been about Trump spiraling downward." Reality.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/trumps-poll-numbers-sink-into-death-spiral-on-the-one-year-anniversary-of-his-campaigns-start/

That's a nasty looking chart for them Trump-supporters! If Trump was a stock, I'd dump him like a hot rock. And it's only going to get worse. Looking pretty grim for those Trump dudes. And it couldn't happen to nicer people!

[connda]

Lol Isn't there a point where you stick a fork in a thread and call it 'done'. Well, I guess at least not until the RNC convenes at the earliest and the Tuesday Nov 8th at the latest.

[Publicus]

Trump fired his losing team's manager Cory Lewandowski

The campaign manager.

It happens in sports and it happens in politics that when the team is in the cellar the manager gets canned.

So let's wait for Take No Prisoners Lewandowski to say what he has to say when he's ready to say it.

Each week now is a bad week for Donald Trump to have yet another bad week.

It's apparently become clear that if Trump wants Republican money he has to go with Paul Manafort who goes deep into the Republican party.

No difference. It's Trump's name on the ballot. The madam vs the madman.

Edited June 20, 2016 by Publicus

[iReason]

Yes sir! Them wheels are just flyin' off the Trump Train Wreck:

Trump campaign manager Lewandowski out

"Corey Lewandowski is no longer with Donald Trump's campaign, the presumptive Republican nominee's team announced Monday."

“The Donald J. Trump Campaign for President, which has set a historic record in the Republican Primary having received almost 14 million votes,

has today announced that Corey Lewandowski will no longer be working with the campaign,” spokeswoman Hope Hicks told The New York Times"

“The campaign is grateful to Corey for his hard work and dedication and we wish him the best in the future.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-campaign-corey-lewandowski-manager-224536#ixzz4C821LqGr

The Bloviator's mouthpiece, Hope Hicks attempts to put lipstick on a pig by fudging the vote tally.

The "supposed" billionaire also set a historic record for the most votes against him: ( Indeed, more than he recieved )

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/08/donald-trump-got-the-most-votes-in-gop-primary-history-a-historic-number-of-people-voted-against-him-too/

Edited June 20, 2016 by iReason

[BB24]

Yes, your buddy Trump keeps going on, to a trainwreck!!!!!

Why is it with you donald supporters that you hate everybody and when your hero say something, you believe him! Even when he makes a 180 degree turn a few hours later?

I don't like hrc, but you know what? It will be better than the ............. Trump machine.

Why is it that you Liberals think all Trump supporters hate everybody?

Is it because you Liberals think you love everyone and therefore anyone opposing your views is a hater??

Or is it because you have nothing to really say and you dont think - you just react and criticise/abuse???

Well let me give you something to think about - give it a try!!

Trump would make a great POTUS because:

1. Trump’s loyalty will only be to America and to Americans - not to any political party, not to any special interest group, and not to any foreign country or entity.

2. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and he knows how to navigate complex deals and can convince people to work with him to achieve his goals, and if that fails he will take decisive action.

3, Trump does not give a rat's rear end about political correctness or diplomacy - he will deal straight and direct with all people and all countries. He will never sell out the American people for his own self-interest or for those in his political party/system, and he will never support the UN or NATO at the expense of America.

Those with a vested self-interest in the status-quo all know this - and that is why they are using all means (fair and foul) to try and stop him becoming POTUS.

[Jingthing]

We think the vile monster supporters are haters because we've watched his rallies.

They remind us of Mussolini.

He is clearly channeling FASCISM.

This fact has been noticed by a plethora of credible commentators all over the world.

People of good faith don't want to see the USA fall to fascism.

One group that a core segment of his supporters hate that in my view doesn't get mentioned often enough is Jews.

Online bullying is a non-partisan activity — both the far left and the far right are quite good at it — but the virulent anti-Semitism many journalists experience today comes from what is known as the “alt-right,” shadowy white supremacists who mainly hide behind the anonymity of Twitter to traffic in horrible Holocaust imagery and directly threaten Jews.

Many of these threats draw on connections with Trump’s presidential campaign, using Trump’s image and targeting his critics, including several of our regular writers. Even if you don’t believe that the presumed Republican standard bearer has stoked this cyber-hate (which is a generous assumption), you have to admit that he appears to have done nothing to minimize or condemn it.

Read more: http://forward.com/opinion/343001/the-forward-wont-publish-anything-about-donald-trump-for-24-hours/#ixzz4C8mZB6wo

Edited June 20, 2016 by Jingthing

[iReason]

"MOST VOTES FOR PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF [sic] USA" Say what?

The delusional Bloviator thinks he's won the Presidency and is apparently unaware that he's still in the primaries, let alone the General Election.

What an ignorant loon...

And sends his desparate babble off to Fox Views to report it:

[BB24]

Looks good - doesn't he ??

Nice

[Jingthing]

Photoshopped vile monster porn.

Especially amusing is the fake large hand ...

People that have been HYPNOTIZED by this American fascist movement ... either you're a good mark for that CON JOB or not. Showing fascist style graphics isn't going to convert anyone new. In fact, I'd say it would dissuade some neutrals. So keep at it!

Edited June 20, 2016 by Jingthing

[ilostmypassword]

Yes, your buddy Trump keeps going on, to a trainwreck!!!!!

Why is it with you donald supporters that you hate everybody and when your hero say something, you believe him! Even when he makes a 180 degree turn a few hours later?

I don't like hrc, but you know what? It will be better than the ............. Trump machine.

Why is it that you Liberals think all Trump supporters hate everybody?

Is it because you Liberals think you love everyone and therefore anyone opposing your views is a hater??

Or is it because you have nothing to really say and you dont think - you just react and criticise/abuse???

Well let me give you something to think about - give it a try!!

Trump would make a great POTUS because:

1. Trump’s loyalty will only be to America and to Americans - not to any political party, not to any special interest group, and not to any foreign country or entity.

2. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and he knows how to navigate complex deals and can convince people to work with him to achieve his goals, and if that fails he will take decisive action.

3, Trump does not give a rat's rear end about political correctness or diplomacy - he will deal straight and direct with all people and all countries. He will never sell out the American people for his own self-interest or for those in his political party/system, and he will never support the UN or NATO at the expense of America.

Those with a vested self-interest in the status-quo all know this - and that is why they are using all means (fair and foul) to try and stop him becoming POTUS.

1)Trump's loyalty has always been only to himself. Here's the latest: Trump could actually be prosecuted for fraud because he claimed that he would donate the profits from certain ventures of his to charity. Apparently, in Trump's mind, he qualifies as a charity.

2)The thing about negotiating is, you have to understand what you're negotiating for.That's relatively easy when the negotiations are in your own immediate interest and you can measure the results in dollars. Although, his negotiations for property in Atlantic city nearly bankrupted him. And Trump, the straight arrow, managed to have a financial journalist fired for reporting the truth. But when you're negotiating for the United States. you have to understand what is truly in the interests of the USA. Trump has demonstrated remarkable ignorance. Do you know that he actually proposed abrogating the agreement with Iran? Which would release the Iranians from any obligations at all while allowing them to trade with the rest of the world.

3)Nice assertions about Trump dealing straight.. I guess you don't know he managed to shift his personal debts to failing corporations he was head of and so make shareholders the losers instead of himself. Straight dealing indeed!

ANd remember Trump said he was going to finance his own campaign so he wouldn't owe anything to anybody. How's that working out? Odd, isn't it, how he wants to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy, eliminate controls that keep big banks and Wall Streeters from precipitating another depression, is opposed to the minimum wage, wants to give credit card companies free rein, appoint right wing justices to the supreme court who typically favor corporations over workers. In effect, he plans to make the wealthy and powerful wealthier and more powerful. Some change. In the most important way he's a typical Republican candidate. Get the base angry about issues which have little to do with improving their lot, but give the real power brokers everything they could hope for.

[Basil B]

Trump campaign manager Lewandowski out

"Lewandowski" sounds a bit like a skeleton out of the Clinton's closet...

Edited June 20, 2016 by Basil B

[Basil B]

If the Republicans rebel and ditch Trum who will they put in his place??

[Chicog]

Trump campaign manager Lewandowski out

"Lewandowski" sounds a bit like a skeleton out of the Clinton's closet...

Except he's actually a former Koch trusty.

Maybe there is some toy/pram throwing going on we don't know about.

[iReason]

In this piece, the downfall of the Bloviator's amateur clown car, is articulately detailed:

Donald Trump’s campaign manager is out. Here are the brutal numbers that tell us why.

"Supporters of Donald Trump got an unexpected plea on Saturday: a request to send the billionaire money.

It was an "emergency" request, the Hill reported, representing an urgent need for an infusion of $100,000 to put ads on the air in battleground states."

"Why Trump couldn't simply write a check to cover the costs apparently wasn't explained, but the missive was useful regardless:

It demonstrates clearly the difficult position of the Trump campaign with only 142 days to go."

"There’s no way to look at Trump’s national polling that avoids the grim reality that he is at a lower ebb than any general election candidate has hit in the last three elections,"

the National Review's Dan McLaughlin wrote last week."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/19/the-brutal-numbers-behind-a-very-bad-month-for-donald-trump/

The Bloviator is no match for the Big Leagues.

And his divisive, crass, boorish behavior will be relegated to where it belongs: As a grotesque footnote in History.

Do the math:

( The bumbling, "supposed" billionaire can't even pony up a 100 Grand for god's sake... )

Edited June 20, 2016 by iReason

[Berkshire]

Trump would make a great POTUS because:

1. Trump’s loyalty will only be to America and to Americans - not to any political party, not to any special interest group, and not to any foreign country or entity.

2. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and he knows how to navigate complex deals and can convince people to work with him to achieve his goals, and if that fails he will take decisive action.

3, Trump does not give a rat's rear end about political correctness or diplomacy - he will deal straight and direct with all people and all countries. He will never sell out the American people for his own self-interest or for those in his political party/system, and he will never support the UN or NATO at the expense of America.

Those with a vested self-interest in the status-quo all know this - and that is why they are using all means (fair and foul) to try and stop him becoming POTUS.

So this is how Trump supporters think? You really believe what you're shoveling? Ok, that's what you believe, but here's the reality:

1. Trump's loyalty is to Trump and his family/friends. Trump University is a good example and there are many more. He makes you think that he's there to make your life better, but in the end, it was all a big scam.

2. Trump says he's a great negotiator, but only when he's negotiating with companies who want his business. Leaders in Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, etc. would have no problem telling him to go pack sand. His business negotiation skills mean squat when it comes to international diplomacy.

3. Insulting other US presidential candidates may work in the GOP primaries. But doing so to all manner of people around the world who aren't beholden to him is not going to work well. He's going to be a big joke. Career federal employees and the military will have to get things done despite of Trump.

One good thing about Trump is that he doesn't hide stuff very well. It's all there for everyone to see. But to the loyal Trump supporters, they only see what they want to see.

[boomerangutang]

A recent discussion group on CNN included the former head of the RNC. He was as crestfallen as a political talking head can be. If I had been there in the room, I would have patted his balding head and brought him a tall glass of water. Republicans are falling apart faster than a hair shirt in a typhoon.

[BB24]

Trump would make a great POTUS because:

1. Trump’s loyalty will only be to America and to Americans - not to any political party, not to any special interest group, and not to any foreign country or entity.

2. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and he knows how to navigate complex deals and can convince people to work with him to achieve his goals, and if that fails he will take decisive action.

3, Trump does not give a rat's rear end about political correctness or diplomacy - he will deal straight and direct with all people and all countries. He will never sell out the American people for his own self-interest or for those in his political party/system, and he will never support the UN or NATO at the expense of America.

Those with a vested self-interest in the status-quo all know this - and that is why they are using all means (fair and foul) to try and stop him becoming POTUS.

So this is how Trump supporters think? You really believe what you're shoveling? Ok, that's what you believe, but here's the reality:

1. Trump's loyalty is to Trump and his family/friends. Trump University is a good example and there are many more. He makes you think that he's there to make your life better, but in the end, it was all a big scam.

2. Trump says he's a great negotiator, but only when he's negotiating with companies who want his business. Leaders in Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, etc. would have no problem telling him to go pack sand. His business negotiation skills mean squat when it comes to international diplomacy.

3. Insulting other US presidential candidates may work in the GOP primaries. But doing so to all manner of people around the world who aren't beholden to him is not going to work well. He's going to be a big joke. Career federal employees and the military will have to get things done despite of Trump.

One good thing about Trump is that he doesn't hide stuff very well. It's all there for everyone to see. But to the loyal Trump supporters, they only see what they want to see.

Reality? A Liberal and reality - they are seldom together - even in the same sentence.

There is only one sentence that actually almost makes sense - the last one. But with a change of just one word, it actually makes sense:

One good thing about Trump is that he doesn't hide stuff very well. It's all there for everyone to see. But to the loyal LIBERAL supporters, they only see what they want to see.

[BB24]

Yes, your buddy Trump keeps going on, to a trainwreck!!!!!

Why is it with you donald supporters that you hate everybody and when your hero say something, you believe him! Even when he makes a 180 degree turn a few hours later?

I don't like hrc, but you know what? It will be better than the ............. Trump machine.

Why is it that you Liberals think all Trump supporters hate everybody?

Is it because you Liberals think you love everyone and therefore anyone opposing your views is a hater??

Or is it because you have nothing to really say and you dont think - you just react and criticise/abuse???

Well let me give you something to think about - give it a try!!

Trump would make a great POTUS because:

1. Trump’s loyalty will only be to America and to Americans - not to any political party, not to any special interest group, and not to any foreign country or entity.

2. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and he knows how to navigate complex deals and can convince people to work with him to achieve his goals, and if that fails he will take decisive action.

3, Trump does not give a rat's rear end about political correctness or diplomacy - he will deal straight and direct with all people and all countries. He will never sell out the American people for his own self-interest or for those in his political party/system, and he will never support the UN or NATO at the expense of America.

Those with a vested self-interest in the status-quo all know this - and that is why they are using all means (fair and foul) to try and stop him becoming POTUS.

1)Trump's loyalty has always been only to himself. Here's the latest: Trump could actually be prosecuted for fraud because he claimed that he would donate the profits from certain ventures of his to charity. Apparently, in Trump's mind, he qualifies as a charity.

2)The thing about negotiating is, you have to understand what you're negotiating for.That's relatively easy when the negotiations are in your own immediate interest and you can measure the results in dollars. Although, his negotiations for property in Atlantic city nearly bankrupted him. And Trump, the straight arrow, managed to have a financial journalist fired for reporting the truth. But when you're negotiating for the United States. you have to understand what is truly in the interests of the USA. Trump has demonstrated remarkable ignorance. Do you know that he actually proposed abrogating the agreement with Iran? Which would release the Iranians from any obligations at all while allowing them to trade with the rest of the world.

3)Nice assertions about Trump dealing straight.. I guess you don't know he managed to shift his personal debts to failing corporations he was head of and so make shareholders the losers instead of himself. Straight dealing indeed!

ANd remember Trump said he was going to finance his own campaign so he wouldn't owe anything to anybody. How's that working out? Odd, isn't it, how he wants to give huge tax breaks to the wealthy, eliminate controls that keep big banks and Wall Streeters from precipitating another depression, is opposed to the minimum wage, wants to give credit card companies free rein, appoint right wing justices to the supreme court who typically favor corporations over workers. In effect, he plans to make the wealthy and powerful wealthier and more powerful. Some change. In the most important way he's a typical Republican candidate. Get the base angry about issues which have little to do with improving their lot, but give the real power brokers everything they could hope for.

Firstly - take all your little issues about Trump and weigh them up against HRC sacams/lies/frauds - Trump wins.

Then - take your Liberal views about negotiating and give them to the local community hobby-farm where they belong. Like most Liberals, you have only ever negotiated as at the local market.

And finally - take your lie about Trump campaigning and sell it at the hobby=farm too - rational intelligent (informed) people with common sense dont believe that. Trump said he would finance his GOP campaign - the one for nomination. Many times - and has repeated it. But like most Liberals you believe what the WashPost and CNN and others print/say.

[Publicus]

While the primaries are over and the caucuses are also behind us the right continues to post as if Trump needed to appeal to only the rightwhingenoids.

It's youse liberals this and you leftists that but the process has moved on to where we are in the present. Which is post-primaries and pre-convention. This is the period when whole of the general electorate takes its first long and hard look at each party's presumptive nominee.

Everybody knows HRC and she's leading significantly and comfortably in every reliable and reputable poll. Trump is in the tank. It is indeed more than obvious the election campaign has gone beyond liberal this or liberal that. One can't even say Trump is a conservative, or that he is philosophically opposite liberals and libtards etc etc. Yes, liberals support HRC and conservatives support Trump.

However the general electorate are seeing a wildman radical ranting and raging his way to the Republican nomination as the party's guy to lead 'em into the election. So this election of Potus has little if anything to do with liberal or conservative. It is instead about Donald Trump the loudmouth boor and about the rightwingnoids driving the Trump campaign since its first week last summer.

General election voters see the choice for what it is, i.e., the madam vs the madman.