Is it too late to stop the Donald Trump machine?

[Jingthing]

The wall is a metaphor.

[BB24]

A comprehensive study on the logistics of deporting the 11million undocumented workers.

AAF examined the personnel and infrastructure implications of removing all 11.3 million illegal aliens in a two-year time frame. In order to remove all illegals, each each one would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported to their country of origin.

In order to remove all illegals in two years, the U.S. government would have to expand each of those stages of the removal process. $400 - $600 Billion.

The current annual budget for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $13.5 billion will need to be increased to $550,000 billion.

This does not include the costs of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies dealing with apprehending, detaining and processing illegals on a daily basis.

• Federal immigration apprehension personnel to increase from 4,844 positions to 90,582 positions;
• The number of immigration detention beds to increase from 34,000 to 348,831;
• The number of immigration courts to increase from 58 to 1,316;
• The number of federal attorneys legally processing undocumented immigrants to increase from 1,430 to 32,445; and
• A minimum of 17,296 chartered flights and 30,701 chartered bus trips each year.

Unbelievable Liberal rhetoric and total ignorance. Using that logic - anything that is 'too hard' and 'costs to much' it shouldn't be done:

Americans should remove all laws that put people in jail - $100 Billion PA?

Remove all police forces and criminal law courts (dont need them anymore) - $200 Billion PA?

Wow - I just saved America $300 Billion PA - that will pay for the wall !!

Wait - there's more - lets close all government hospitals - that would save over $1 trillion !!!!

Idiotic and foolish logic - atypical Liberal thunking (yes - thunking !)

$550 Billion? Lets say $50 Billion - maybe.

But instead of '1st class travel' lets just make them leave.

Pass a federal law making it a serious felony to employ anyone that is not a US citizen (or has an employment Visa) - 5 to 10 years in jail (no second chance).

All of a sudden who is going to risk going to jail for 5-10 years to employ an illegal immigrant???

Then provide regular free buses and train trips (cheap) for any of the 60% of illegal immigrant from 'south' who are willing to go back home.

Then the wall stops the 60% coming back in and stops any new ones (probably 95% of them).

For the 40% that come from overseas and overstay their Visa - their own country pays for any airfare costs.

And because no one will employ an illegal immigrant - why would anymore come/stay?? That will probably stop about 90%.

The rest is the criminals and the desperates - but 2 to 5 years later the problem will become a 'manageable problem'.

After 2 years as a legal immigrant a person is to apply for and be declared a US Citizen (compulsory).

Commit a serious crime in those 2 years - deported.

Refuse to denounce foreign citizenship and take up US citizenship after 2 years - deported.

Harsh maybe - and realistically the approach would be less 'confrontational' - but it can be done (and for a lot less than $550 billion)

There are many more things that can be done - I have just listed a few.

Trump as POTUS will logically look at the problem as 'solvable' and use common sense - not Liberal thunking.

But Liberals dont really agree that there is a problem do they?

They attack any attempt to solve 'the problem' as either too difficult - and if that fails they play the 'human rights' and/or 'the rascist' cards.

Open borders is their mantra - people of the world unite under a single mantra of well being and peace and respect and love and ............... I feel sick just typing that khrapp.

You want to know how big the problem really is??

1 in 5 (20%) of all children in Nevada (as of 2015) have at least one parent who is an illegal immigrant.

There are approximately 2 million legal and illegal immigrants with criminal convictions in US jails.

Each year about 900 thousand legal and illegal immigrants are arrested.

Those numbers are getting bigger and bigger every year.

The stats are not detailed enough BECAUSE the Obama administration dismantled the reporting mechanisms - racial profiling or some such Liberal thunking khrapp.

Trump will close the borders to America and will remove illegal immigrants, and deport any legal immigrant that commits a serious crime.

Trump will stop employers giving work to illegal immigrants - and that will remove the incentive for them to come and stay.

Trump wont get rid of or stop 100% - but he will do something because he is the only one that accepts and talks about 'the problem'.

And Trump will build and maintain statistics on all immigrants - legal and illegal.

[BB24]

Here is an engineers look at the reality of building the wall across the southern border.

Engineers have estimated a 20' wall would cost $25-$50 billion and an equal amount to maintain every 7 years.

Trumps wall will be 50' high, will cost around $75 - $125 billion.

Labor.

The materials for the 50' wall are equal 6 Hoover Dams. 21,000 employees built that dam. The wall may need around 100,000 employees for ten years.

Pay them $100 per day/ 6 days per week = $36 billion in labor.

Materials.

Around 15 million yards of concrete and 5 billion pounds of rebar.

500 concrete plants need to be setup along the border.

At least 3 steel mills running at capacity, with 15,000 employees just to make the rebar. Every truckload will still be transported up to 700 miles!

Logistics.

Engineer, plan and build 2,000 miles of road that can handle 52 million trips of heavy trucks. Terrain that prohibits construction like a floodplain, mountains, sand dunes. The costs skyrocket.

Condemning land.

The Government must first acquire the land. Thousands of private property owners will run up lawyer fees while Eminent Domain court cases last 7-10 years.

Hundreds of Judges and courts will be tied up for decades disputing the land appropriation.

13 Federal & State laws must be rewritten to permit the construction.

Business, landowners, towns & environment.

The Rio Grande is the USA 5^th largest river. The natural border between Texas & Mexico goes right down the middle of the river and the river often changes course.

The wall must be constructed well inside the US boundary so essentially, US citizens, private land owners, farmers, ranchers, municipalities and national parks and wildlife will be forced to abandon hundreds of thousands of riverfront acres.

Environmental issues will slow down work to a grinding halt in some places that drag thru the courts for years.

Border towns will be split in two. Thousands of businesses & families on both sides destroyed.

The wall can't block the thousands of tributaries, wetlands or flood planes. Full time Border Guards will need to watch these areas.

Bureaucracy.

You would need a guard post every 2,000' or so. About 5,230 guard posts, each post would need at least 2 on duty with 3 shift a day. About 43,000 full time guards.

A security headquarters every 25 miles, each overseeing 50 guard posts. About 2,000 staff there.

A fleet of INS choppers will need 15-20 airfields, pilots, fuel stations and hangers.

Every 100 miles you need a government office building with 75 people doing paperwork. That's 1,500 paper shufflers.

Each state will need a main headquarters too.

A large building in DC with 2,000 staff is a good estimate. About $4 billion per year for the bureaucratic staff.

Maintenance.

How much to keep the wall maintained?

Maintenance centers every 50 miles. Around 40 facilities with lots of trucks and heavy equipment, warehouses etc. Probably 4,000 staff.

About another $50-$100 billion every 7 years is the maintenance estimate.

Realistically, will a wall stop them?

There already is a wall in the hotspots.

The undocumented workers pay the “coyotes” border smugglers $500- $1,000 and are driven thru to Los Angeles. $40,000 a truckload. They have been driving thru like this for decades with assistance from Mexican authorities.

The wall certainly won't stop the criminals or terrorists.

The rest of the Border.

The Gulf of Mexico border is 1,680 miles.

The Canada Border is 3,987 miles.

The General coastline including Hawaii & Alaska is 12,479 miles. The NOAA Coastal Zones Management includes Bays and Coves puts the US coastline at 88,612 miles.

Conclusion.

The wall fail it's primary purpose.

Atypical Liberal logic - paste together a lot of information, claim they are facts, interpret those (false) facts to support your preconceived argument.

Try reading something positive for a change: http://www.yumasun.com/news/yuma-sector-one-of-border-s-most-secure/article_6802d31e-0d51-11e4-8418-001a4bcf6878.html

Trump will use the successful walls that already exist and bring it all together - and create thousands of jobs in both construction and patrol/maintenance - WIN/WIN

And will this wall-building project take place before or after the Rapture?

For your sake I hope it is BEFORE

[NumbNut]

Here is an engineers look at the reality of building the wall across the southern border.

Engineers have estimated a 20' wall would cost $25-$50 billion and an equal amount to maintain every 7 years.

Trumps wall will be 50' high, will cost around $75 - $125 billion.

Labor.

The materials for the 50' wall are equal 6 Hoover Dams. 21,000 employees built that dam. The wall may need around 100,000 employees for ten years.

Pay them $100 per day/ 6 days per week = $36 billion in labor.

Materials.

Around 15 million yards of concrete and 5 billion pounds of rebar.

500 concrete plants need to be setup along the border.

At least 3 steel mills running at capacity, with 15,000 employees just to make the rebar. Every truckload will still be transported up to 700 miles!

Logistics.

Engineer, plan and build 2,000 miles of road that can handle 52 million trips of heavy trucks. Terrain that prohibits construction like a floodplain, mountains, sand dunes. The costs skyrocket.

Condemning land.

The Government must first acquire the land. Thousands of private property owners will run up lawyer fees while Eminent Domain court cases last 7-10 years.

Hundreds of Judges and courts will be tied up for decades disputing the land appropriation.

13 Federal & State laws must be rewritten to permit the construction.

Business, landowners, towns & environment.

The Rio Grande is the USA 5^th largest river. The natural border between Texas & Mexico goes right down the middle of the river and the river often changes course.

The wall must be constructed well inside the US boundary so essentially, US citizens, private land owners, farmers, ranchers, municipalities and national parks and wildlife will be forced to abandon hundreds of thousands of riverfront acres.

Environmental issues will slow down work to a grinding halt in some places that drag thru the courts for years.

Border towns will be split in two. Thousands of businesses & families on both sides destroyed.

The wall can't block the thousands of tributaries, wetlands or flood planes. Full time Border Guards will need to watch these areas.

Bureaucracy.

You would need a guard post every 2,000' or so. About 5,230 guard posts, each post would need at least 2 on duty with 3 shift a day. About 43,000 full time guards.

A security headquarters every 25 miles, each overseeing 50 guard posts. About 2,000 staff there.

A fleet of INS choppers will need 15-20 airfields, pilots, fuel stations and hangers.

Every 100 miles you need a government office building with 75 people doing paperwork. That's 1,500 paper shufflers.

Each state will need a main headquarters too.

A large building in DC with 2,000 staff is a good estimate. About $4 billion per year for the bureaucratic staff.

Maintenance.

How much to keep the wall maintained?

Maintenance centers every 50 miles. Around 40 facilities with lots of trucks and heavy equipment, warehouses etc. Probably 4,000 staff.

About another $50-$100 billion every 7 years is the maintenance estimate.

Realistically, will a wall stop them?

There already is a wall in the hotspots.

The undocumented workers pay the “coyotes” border smugglers $500- $1,000 and are driven thru to Los Angeles. $40,000 a truckload. They have been driving thru like this for decades with assistance from Mexican authorities.

The wall certainly won't stop the criminals or terrorists.

The rest of the Border.

The Gulf of Mexico border is 1,680 miles.

The Canada Border is 3,987 miles.

The General coastline including Hawaii & Alaska is 12,479 miles. The NOAA Coastal Zones Management includes Bays and Coves puts the US coastline at 88,612 miles.

Conclusion.

The wall fail it's primary purpose.

Atypical Liberal logic - paste together a lot of information, claim they are facts, interpret those (false) facts to support your preconceived argument.

Try reading something positive for a change: http://www.yumasun.com/news/yuma-sector-one-of-border-s-most-secure/article_6802d31e-0d51-11e4-8418-001a4bcf6878.html

Trump will use the successful walls that already exist and bring it all together - and create thousands of jobs in both construction and patrol/maintenance - WIN/WIN

And will this wall-building project take place before or after the Rapture?

Rapture, hmmm... is that the hit by Blondie back in the 80's?

Hmmm... Blondie...

[NumbNut]

Double post

Edited June 24, 2016 by NumbNut

[Jingthing]

How to stop the vile monster?

Perhaps start with the children.

From: A Child's First Book of trump

“Its skin is bright orange, its figure is plump. Its fur so complex you might get enveloped. Its hands though are, sadly, underdeveloped.”

“Its diet is cash, its friends all go-getters. Its poop spells out ‘Trump’ in ten-foot-high letters.”

[BB24]

DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT REGARDING BRITISH REFERENDUM ON E.U. MEMBERSHIP

The people of the United Kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free peoples. They have declared their independence from the European Union and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy. A Trump Administration pledges to strengthen our ties with a free and independent Britain, deepening our bonds in commerce, culture and mutual defense. The whole world is more peaceful and stable when our two countries – and our two peoples – are united together, as they will be under a Trump Administration.

Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.

[Jingthing]

He obviously didn't write that. It's longer than a TWEET.

[Buzzz]

A comprehensive study on the logistics of deporting the 11million undocumented workers.

AAF examined the personnel and infrastructure implications of removing all 11.3 million illegal aliens in a two-year time frame. In order to remove all illegals, each each one would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported to their country of origin.

In order to remove all illegals in two years, the U.S. government would have to expand each of those stages of the removal process. $400 - $600 Billion.

The current annual budget for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $13.5 billion will need to be increased to $550,000 billion.

This does not include the costs of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies dealing with apprehending, detaining and processing illegals on a daily basis.

• Federal immigration apprehension personnel to increase from 4,844 positions to 90,582 positions;
• The number of immigration detention beds to increase from 34,000 to 348,831;
• The number of immigration courts to increase from 58 to 1,316;
• The number of federal attorneys legally processing undocumented immigrants to increase from 1,430 to 32,445; and
• A minimum of 17,296 chartered flights and 30,701 chartered bus trips each year.

Pass a federal law making it a serious felony to employ anyone that is not a US citizen (or has an employment Visa) - 5 to 10 years in jail (no second chance).

All of a sudden who is going to risk going to jail for 5-10 years to employ an illegal immigrant???

Trump will close the borders to America and will remove illegal immigrants, and deport any legal immigrant that commits a serious crime.

Trump will stop employers giving work to illegal immigrants - and that will remove the incentive for them to come and stay.

Trump wont get rid of or stop 100% - but he will do something because he is the only one that accepts and talks about 'the problem'.

And Trump will build and maintain statistics on all immigrants - legal and illegal.

Pass a law that makes it a felony to hire an undocumented worker?

There is a law on the books and every employee/employer must file the IRS Form I-9.

Failure to comply can result in a $9,000 fine for each case.

The undocumented workers just use a fake ID to get jobs. No companies I know hire them without filing the I-9 form with the Internal Revenue Service.

The bookkeepers and accountants make sure every worker has the required ID. They don't risk the $9,000 fine unless they are stupid.

These workers Social Security withholdings are putting $13 billion into the fund.... but they will never see the benefits.

[anotheruser]

He obviously didn't write that. It's longer than a TWEET.

Yeah it isn't like Trump is a prolific writer and best selling author, whose book held number one on the NY Times list for 51 consecutive weeks. How many of us can make the same claim?

[BB24]

DONALD J. TRUMP FULLY EXTINGUISHES CAMPAIGN LOAN OF MORE THAN $50 MILLION

(New York, NY) June 23, 2016 - Donald J. Trump has just announced he has honored the pledge he made on May 13, 2016, when he stated, “I have absolutely no intention of paying myself back for the nearly $50 million dollars I have loaned to the campaign. This money is a contribution made in order to 'Make America Great Again.”

Mr. Trump has fully extinguished (terminated) this loan per his commitment. Therefore, he has personally invested in excess of $50 million dollars in the future of our country. Unlike the all talk, no action politicians that have failed the American people for far too long, Mr. Trump is not beholden to the special interests that have corrupted Washington, D.C. Mr. Trump will continue to put America and our people first.

After self-funding his primary election, Mr. Trump and the campaign have assembled an exceptional fundraising operation, which in recent days has been overwhelmed with contributions for the Republican Party. Mr. Trump will continue to ensure the campaign has all of the resources necessary to defeat Crooked Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in November.

[CaptHaddock]

DONALD J. TRUMP FULLY EXTINGUISHES CAMPAIGN LOAN OF MORE THAN $50 MILLION

(New York, NY) June 23, 2016 - Donald J. Trump has just announced he has honored the pledge he made on May 13, 2016, when he stated, “I have absolutely no intention of paying myself back for the nearly $50 million dollars I have loaned to the campaign. This money is a contribution made in order to 'Make America Great Again.”

Mr. Trump has fully extinguished (terminated) this loan per his commitment. Therefore, he has personally invested in excess of $50 million dollars in the future of our country. Unlike the all talk, no action politicians that have failed the American people for far too long, Mr. Trump is not beholden to the special interests that have corrupted Washington, D.C. Mr. Trump will continue to put America and our people first.

After self-funding his primary election, Mr. Trump and the campaign have assembled an exceptional fundraising operation, which in recent days has been overwhelmed with contributions for the Republican Party. Mr. Trump will continue to ensure the campaign has all of the resources necessary to defeat Crooked Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in November.

HA! If you believe that, I've got a "university" you can enroll in.

[Jingthing]

The true believers in the vile monster are lost causes. The battle now is for people who haven't been infected. Happily, that's the vast majority of potential American voters.

[boomerangutang]

Trump will ....create thousands of jobs in both construction and patrol/maintenance - WIN/WIN

Trump could get 60,000 workers to dig ditches for the first 6 hours of the workday, and then spend the last 2 hours filling them in. That would create lots of jobs. And he could pay them $28.50/hr. Trump has no problem using borrowed and others peoples' money to get things done (or undone, as the case may be). True story: I knew a guy who worked for California Roads Dept as a heavy equipment operator. He told me of a day (and it was not an anomaly) where his boss told him to dig a trench. After 6.5 hours, the trench wasn't completed, so the boss told him to fill it back in again, completely. My friend asked him why. The boss said, "so kids or pets don't fall in overnight."

Trump's wall is wrong for too many reasons to list here. The current border guards are doing a decent job on average with the resources they currently have. If they need more resources, ask them what they need. Don't ask a NY shyster who's spent his whole career cheating people and more recently segueing to being an alarmist, racist and all-around unpleasant and negative person who nobody wants to be around.

He obviously didn't write that. It's longer than a TWEET.

......and it doesn't cast any aspersions at anyone, nor call names. It can't be Trump's text. It doesn't include his 'Chicken Little' mantra "The Sky is Falling!, everyone. I am the only person who can fix the sky, believe me folks. Crooked Hillary will make everything worse for you. She will force you to kill your pets to make sausages for ISIS."

[BB24]

A comprehensive study on the logistics of deporting the 11million undocumented workers.

AAF examined the personnel and infrastructure implications of removing all 11.3 million illegal aliens in a two-year time frame. In order to remove all illegals, each each one would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported to their country of origin.

In order to remove all illegals in two years, the U.S. government would have to expand each of those stages of the removal process. $400 - $600 Billion.

The current annual budget for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $13.5 billion will need to be increased to $550,000 billion.

This does not include the costs of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies dealing with apprehending, detaining and processing illegals on a daily basis.

• Federal immigration apprehension personnel to increase from 4,844 positions to 90,582 positions;
• The number of immigration detention beds to increase from 34,000 to 348,831;
• The number of immigration courts to increase from 58 to 1,316;
• The number of federal attorneys legally processing undocumented immigrants to increase from 1,430 to 32,445; and
• A minimum of 17,296 chartered flights and 30,701 chartered bus trips each year.

Pass a federal law making it a serious felony to employ anyone that is not a US citizen (or has an employment Visa) - 5 to 10 years in jail (no second chance).

All of a sudden who is going to risk going to jail for 5-10 years to employ an illegal immigrant???

Trump will close the borders to America and will remove illegal immigrants, and deport any legal immigrant that commits a serious crime.

Trump will stop employers giving work to illegal immigrants - and that will remove the incentive for them to come and stay.

Trump wont get rid of or stop 100% - but he will do something because he is the only one that accepts and talks about 'the problem'.

And Trump will build and maintain statistics on all immigrants - legal and illegal.

Pass a law that makes it a felony to hire an undocumented worker?

There is a law on the books and every employee/employer must file the IRS Form I-9.

Failure to comply can result in a $9,000 fine for each case.

The undocumented workers just use a fake ID to get jobs. No companies I know hire them without filing the I-9 form with the Internal Revenue Service.

The bookkeepers and accountants make sure every worker has the required ID. They don't risk the $9,000 fine unless they are stupid.

These workers Social Security withholdings are putting $13 billion into the fund.... but they will never see the benefits.

• First offenders can be fined $250-$2,000 per illegal employee.
• For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.
• Three or more offenses can cost an employer $3000-$10,000 per illegal employee. A pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants can mean extra fines and up to six months in jail for an employer.

Penalties are far too lenient - no disincentive .......................

Employers are required to make a good faith effort....................

And proving an Employer DID NOT make a good faith effort is extremely hard - so it is rarely if ever enforced.

If a court determines that you've shown a pattern of breaking the law in hiring undocumented workers, the court could sentence you to up to six months in jail.

DITTO. It is just too easy - plead guilty and pay a small fine (sounds like Thailand )

Trump will address this.

[Jingthing]

Even if he wins, the vile monster will never build his wall. It's just a game for him. It polls well among the racist dunces.

[BB24]

In the most consequential 4-4 deadlock of the term, the Supreme Court has all but killedPresident Obama’s most significant attempted reform of immigration policy — which would have allowed up to 4.5 million immigrants to apply for protection from deportation and work legally in the US.

DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON EXECUTIVE AMNESTY RULING

Today's 4-4 Supreme Court ruling has blocked one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a President. The executive amnesty from President Obama wiped away the immigration rules written by Congress, giving work permits and entitlement benefits to people illegally in the country. This split decision also makes clear what is at stake in November. The election, and the Supreme Court appointments that come with it will decide whether or not we have a border and, hence, a country. Clinton has pledged to expand Obama's executive amnesty, hurting poor African-American and Hispanic workers by giving away their jobs and federal resources to illegal immigrant labor – while making us all less safe. It is time to protect our country and Make America Safe Again and Great Again for everyone.

[Buzzz]

DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT REGARDING BRITISH REFERENDUM ON E.U. MEMBERSHIP

Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.

Hmmm. A chance to vote for trade?

Last years US exports are at an all time high. $1.3 Trillion.

Hmmm. Vote for Immigration policies?

Obama has deported more illegals than any other President.

Remember, the Republicans are currently blocking Immigration Reform.

Hmmm. Vote for foreign policy?

Now thats funny.

Hmmm. Vote for a government by & for the people?

Unless your muslim, mexican, women, POW, handicapped, gay, black, or if you ever said anything not nice about the Donald.

[Bantex]

DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT REGARDING BRITISH REFERENDUM ON E.U. MEMBERSHIP

Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today’s rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by and for the people. I hope America is watching, it will soon be time to believe in America again.

Hmmm. A chance to vote for trade?

Last years US exports are at an all time high. $1.3 Trillion.

Hmmm. Vote for Immigration policies?

Obama has deported more illegals than any other President.

Remember, the Republicans are currently blocking Immigration Reform.

Hmmm. Vote for foreign policy?

Now thats funny.

Hmmm. Vote for a government by & for the people?

Unless your muslim, mexican, women, POW, handicapped, gay, black, or if you ever said anything not nice about the Donald.

Donald Trump'et whilst making a speech about the UK Brexit vote result from a golf course in Scotland made a reference to being in Florida. How stupid is this man when he isn't aware of what country or continent he's currently in.

[BB24]

IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The three core principles of Donald J. Trump's immigration plan

When politicians talk about “immigration reform” they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.

Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors. We are the only country in the world whose immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own. That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration reform:

1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.

Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have been particularly harmed.

The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old woman’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.

Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).

In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.

The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.

Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.

Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The following steps will return to the American people the safety of their laws, which politicians have stolen from them:

Triple the number of ICE officers. As the President of the ICE Officers’ Council explained in Congressional testimony: “Only approximately 5,000 officers and agents within ICE perform the lion’s share of ICE’s immigration mission…Compare that to the Los Angeles Police Department at approximately 10,000 officers. Approximately 5,000 officers in ICE cover 50 states, Puerto Rico and Guam, and are attempting to enforce immigration law against 11 million illegal aliens already in the interior of the United States. Since 9-11, the U.S. Border Patrol has tripled in size, while ICE’s immigration enforcement arm, Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), has remained at relatively the same size.” This will be funded by accepting the recommendation of the Inspector General for Tax Administration and eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants.

Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans.

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.

Detention—not catch-and-release. Illegal aliens apprehended crossing the border must be detained until they are sent home, no more catch-and-release.

Defund sanctuary cities. Cut-off federal grants to any city which refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement.

Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa. Millions of people come to the United States on temporary visas but refuse to leave, without consequence. This is a threat to national security. Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires should be subject to criminal penalties; this will also help give local jurisdictions the power to hold visa overstays until federal authorities arrive. Completion of a visa tracking system – required by law but blocked by lobbyists – will be necessary as well.

Cooperate with local gang task forces. ICE officers should accompany local police departments conducting raids of violent street gangs like MS-13 and the 18th street gang, which have terrorized the country. All illegal aliens in gangs should be apprehended and deported. Again, quoting Chris Crane: “ICE Officers and Agents are forced to apply the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) Directive, not to children in schools, but to adult inmates in jails. If an illegal-alien inmate simply claims eligibility, ICE is forced to release the alien back into the community. This includes serious criminals who have committed felonies, who have assaulted officers, and who prey on children…ICE officers should be required to place detainers on every illegal alien they encounter in jails and prisons, since these aliens not only violated immigration laws, but then went on to engage in activities that led to their arrest by police; ICE officers should be required to issue Notices to Appear to all illegal aliens with criminal convictions, DUI convictions, or a gang affiliation; ICE should be working with any state or local drug or gang task force that asks for such assistance.”

End birthright citizenship. This remains the biggest magnet for illegal immigration. By a 2:1 margin, voters say it’s the wrong policy, including Harry Reid who said “no sane country” would give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.

Put American Workers First

Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class. Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not experienced in generations. As CBS news wrote in a piece entitled “America’s incredible shrinking middle class”: “If the middle-class is the economic backbone of America, then the country is developing osteoporosis.”

The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans – including immigrants themselves and their children – to earn a middle class wage. Nearly half of all immigrants and their US-born children currently live in or near poverty, including more than 60 percent of Hispanic immigrants. Every year, we voluntarily admit another 2 million new immigrants, guest workers, refugees, and dependents, growing our existing all-time historic record population of 42 million immigrants. We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities’ rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream.

Additionally, we need to stop giving legal immigrant visas to people bent on causing us harm. From the 9/11 hijackers, to the Boston Bombers, and many others, our immigration system is being used to attack us. The President of the immigration caseworkers union declared in a statement on ISIS: “We've become the visa clearinghouse for the world.”

Here are some additional specific policy proposals for long-term reform:

Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program's lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas. This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities.

Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.

End welfare abuse. Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S.

Jobs program for inner city youth. The J-1 visa jobs program for foreign youth will be terminated and replaced with a resume bank for inner city youth provided to all corporate subscribers to the J-1 visa program.

Refugee program for American children. Increase standards for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers to crack down on abuses. Use the monies saved on expensive refugee programs to help place American children without parents in safer homes and communities, and to improve community safety in high crime neighborhoods in the United States.

Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.

[ilostmypassword]

A comprehensive study on the logistics of deporting the 11million undocumented workers.

AAF examined the personnel and infrastructure implications of removing all 11.3 million illegal aliens in a two-year time frame. In order to remove all illegals, each each one would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported to their country of origin.

In order to remove all illegals in two years, the U.S. government would have to expand each of those stages of the removal process. $400 - $600 Billion.

The current annual budget for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $13.5 billion will need to be increased to $550,000 billion.

This does not include the costs of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies dealing with apprehending, detaining and processing illegals on a daily basis.

• Federal immigration apprehension personnel to increase from 4,844 positions to 90,582 positions;
• The number of immigration detention beds to increase from 34,000 to 348,831;
• The number of immigration courts to increase from 58 to 1,316;
• The number of federal attorneys legally processing undocumented immigrants to increase from 1,430 to 32,445; and
• A minimum of 17,296 chartered flights and 30,701 chartered bus trips each year.

Unbelievable Liberal rhetoric and total ignorance. Using that logic - anything that is 'too hard' and 'costs to much' it shouldn't be done:

Americans should remove all laws that put people in jail - $100 Billion PA?

Remove all police forces and criminal law courts (dont need them anymore) - $200 Billion PA?

Wow - I just saved America $300 Billion PA - that will pay for the wall !!

Wait - there's more - lets close all government hospitals - that would save over $1 trillion !!!!

Idiotic and foolish logic - atypical Liberal thunking (yes - thunking !)

$550 Billion? Lets say $50 Billion - maybe.

But instead of '1st class travel' lets just make them leave.

Pass a federal law making it a serious felony to employ anyone that is not a US citizen (or has an employment Visa) - 5 to 10 years in jail (no second chance).

All of a sudden who is going to risk going to jail for 5-10 years to employ an illegal immigrant???

Then provide regular free buses and train trips (cheap) for any of the 60% of illegal immigrant from 'south' who are willing to go back home.

Then the wall stops the 60% coming back in and stops any new ones (probably 95% of them).

For the 40% that come from overseas and overstay their Visa - their own country pays for any airfare costs.

And because no one will employ an illegal immigrant - why would anymore come/stay?? That will probably stop about 90%.

The rest is the criminals and the desperates - but 2 to 5 years later the problem will become a 'manageable problem'.

After 2 years as a legal immigrant a person is to apply for and be declared a US Citizen (compulsory).

Commit a serious crime in those 2 years - deported.

Refuse to denounce foreign citizenship and take up US citizenship after 2 years - deported.

Harsh maybe - and realistically the approach would be less 'confrontational' - but it can be done (and for a lot less than $550 billion)

There are many more things that can be done - I have just listed a few.

Trump as POTUS will logically look at the problem as 'solvable' and use common sense - not Liberal thunking.

But Liberals dont really agree that there is a problem do they?

They attack any attempt to solve 'the problem' as either too difficult - and if that fails they play the 'human rights' and/or 'the rascist' cards.

Open borders is their mantra - people of the world unite under a single mantra of well being and peace and respect and love and ............... I feel sick just typing that khrapp.

You want to know how big the problem really is??

1 in 5 (20%) of all children in Nevada (as of 2015) have at least one parent who is an illegal immigrant.

There are approximately 2 million legal and illegal immigrants with criminal convictions in US jails.

Each year about 900 thousand legal and illegal immigrants are arrested.

Those numbers are getting bigger and bigger every year.

The stats are not detailed enough BECAUSE the Obama administration dismantled the reporting mechanisms - racial profiling or some such Liberal thunking khrapp.

Trump will close the borders to America and will remove illegal immigrants, and deport any legal immigrant that commits a serious crime.

Trump will stop employers giving work to illegal immigrants - and that will remove the incentive for them to come and stay.

Trump wont get rid of or stop 100% - but he will do something because he is the only one that accepts and talks about 'the problem'.

And Trump will build and maintain statistics on all immigrants - legal and illegal.

Clearly not a clue here about cost vs. benefit.

[ilostmypassword]

A comprehensive study on the logistics of deporting the 11million undocumented workers.

AAF examined the personnel and infrastructure implications of removing all 11.3 million illegal aliens in a two-year time frame. In order to remove all illegals, each each one would have to be apprehended, detained, legally processed, and transported to their country of origin.

In order to remove all illegals in two years, the U.S. government would have to expand each of those stages of the removal process. $400 - $600 Billion.

The current annual budget for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $13.5 billion will need to be increased to $550,000 billion.

This does not include the costs of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies dealing with apprehending, detaining and processing illegals on a daily basis.

• Federal immigration apprehension personnel to increase from 4,844 positions to 90,582 positions;
• The number of immigration detention beds to increase from 34,000 to 348,831;
• The number of immigration courts to increase from 58 to 1,316;
• The number of federal attorneys legally processing undocumented immigrants to increase from 1,430 to 32,445; and
• A minimum of 17,296 chartered flights and 30,701 chartered bus trips each year.

Pass a federal law making it a serious felony to employ anyone that is not a US citizen (or has an employment Visa) - 5 to 10 years in jail (no second chance).

All of a sudden who is going to risk going to jail for 5-10 years to employ an illegal immigrant???

Trump will close the borders to America and will remove illegal immigrants, and deport any legal immigrant that commits a serious crime.

Trump will stop employers giving work to illegal immigrants - and that will remove the incentive for them to come and stay.

Trump wont get rid of or stop 100% - but he will do something because he is the only one that accepts and talks about 'the problem'.

And Trump will build and maintain statistics on all immigrants - legal and illegal.

Pass a law that makes it a felony to hire an undocumented worker?

There is a law on the books and every employee/employer must file the IRS Form I-9.

Failure to comply can result in a $9,000 fine for each case.

The undocumented workers just use a fake ID to get jobs. No companies I know hire them without filing the I-9 form with the Internal Revenue Service.

The bookkeepers and accountants make sure every worker has the required ID. They don't risk the $9,000 fine unless they are stupid.

These workers Social Security withholdings are putting $13 billion into the fund.... but they will never see the benefits.

If Trump and his like really wanted to see the end of illegal immigration they would support the $15 minimum wage. That way, citizens and others legally eligible for jobs would want the jobs that illegals now do. And they would have an incentive to report them. Trump wants no raise in the Federal minimum wage.

[AkukuBernard]

Even on a good machine is dispersed

[ilostmypassword]

Donald Trump claims to have a world-class memory, but it certainly wasn't on display during his deposition for a lawsuit over Trump University.

"I don't remember," Trump told lawyers 35 times during his December testimony, which was released on Wednesday.

His inability to recall covered a wide range of subjects — including whether he had told NBC News' Katy Tur just a month earlier that he had the "world's Greatest memory."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-u-lawsuit-deposition-trump-can-t-remember-world-s-n597986

[NovaBlue05]

Don't need to wall off the entire southern border, just key locations. There are huge stretches along that border with no traversable roads and almost no chance of anybody making it alive on foot to their destination. I think a more cost effective approach to begin with would be to supplement border patrol with National Guard or even regular Army. They are already on the govt. payroll anyway and routinely used to supplement civilian emergency response during civil disturbances and natural disasters.

[BB24]

While Trump cant remember minor issues at a deposition about a court case from a few disgruntled Liberals who have no real case, Crooked Hillary cant remember SERIOUS issues that have caused death.

Get real - Trump University (one of his many companies) failed to please a few Liberals over a few thousand, versus HRC who as Secretary of State that caused people to die, created ISIS, destabilised Lybia, fraudulently made millions for the Clinton Foundation, deliberately abused national security, and deleted 30,000+ emails proving ........ something !!! (or were they all cooking recipees )

[Jingthing]

trump university was a total SCAM. Don't let the vile monster scam the entire country and world.

[BB24]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/hillary-clinton-bosnia-sniper-fire-2016-6

Liars cant help lying - it becomes second nature.

Trump is gonna destroy her..................

[boomerangutang]

Donald Trump claims to have a world-class memory, but it certainly wasn't on display during his deposition for a lawsuit over Trump University.

"I don't remember," Trump told lawyers 35 times during his December testimony, which was released on Wednesday.

His inability to recall covered a wide range of subjects — including whether he had told NBC News' Katy Tur just a month earlier that he had the "world's Greatest memory."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-u-lawsuit-deposition-trump-can-t-remember-world-s-n597986

The Divider avoided the draft 5 times by declaring he had a bad foot. When asked, years later, which foot, he couldn't remember.

[Jingthing]

Donald Trump claims to have a world-class memory, but it certainly wasn't on display during his deposition for a lawsuit over Trump University.

"I don't remember," Trump told lawyers 35 times during his December testimony, which was released on Wednesday.

His inability to recall covered a wide range of subjects — including whether he had told NBC News' Katy Tur just a month earlier that he had the "world's Greatest memory."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-u-lawsuit-deposition-trump-can-t-remember-world-s-n597986

The Divider avoided the draft 5 times by declaring he had a bad foot. When asked, years later, which foot, he couldn't remember.

Also reported as child he was a vile bully. Hasn't changed obviously. So if elected the bully pulpit will become literal.