Thai businessman charged for fatal collision amid mounting criticism

[Khun Han]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

True. On the other hand, without social media do you think that there would have been any investigation let alone trial and punishment?

Social media is the only effective 'check and balance' that Thailand has at the moment.

Not aiming this at Bluespunk, but most posters criticising social media as an investigative entity have an agenda, such as in the Koh Tao murder threads.

Anyway, this scumbag Jenphob deserves to have the book thrown at him, but I won't hold my breath.

[Artisi]

He declined to be tested for alcohol WHAT!!

How can the police justify that?

Oh sorry he was driving a Merc. He has plenty of brown envelopes at his office.

Maybe that is what they thought.

Afaik most places in the world automatically charge you with DUI if you refuse either a breathaliser or a blood test.

I thought that the powers that be brought in a law last year that you couldn't refuse a breathalyzer.

Unless you're special.

[Briggsy]

Off the top of my head, here are the points at which influential people can avoid paying for their crimes in Thailand.

1. No police investigation

2. Police investigation but someone else fitted up for it.

3. Rap taken by a nong. Perhaps a goon or driver has to face the music.

4. Police investigation but no charges laid.

5. Charges laid but case dropped by District Prosecutor.

6. District Prosecutor "chucks" the case in court by watering down the key evidence.

7. Defendant spins the process out with numerous medical adjournements of the case.

8. The judge is paid off and the defendant found not guilty due to insufficient evidence.

9. Bail is given at every opportunity even after being found guilty in the court of first instance.

10. Flee abroad.

11. The defendant is placed under psychiatric supervision.

12. A very large delay between the initial guilty verdict and the Appeals Court verdict.

13. Appeals Court is another opportunity to influence a judge.

14. If found guilty there, more freedom on bail is given.

15. Many years later, the case reaches the Supreme Court.

16. Another judge, another opportunity.

17. Defendant fails to appear for hearing and the police don't look very hard for him.

18. Substitute does the prison time.

19. No substitute in prison, simply pay off the Corrections Dept to say he is incarcerated there when he isn't.

20. Fake death.

There are more creative ones but you can see only proles do time in Thailand.

[outsider]

If this guy walks, it will be a very sad day for Thailand.

I'd say, it won't be a sad day for Thailand but rather, it will underline the sad state of affairs here, because the fact is, many have walked before him, don't you think so? A rich brat driving a Ferrari comes to mind...

[robertthebruce]

Singapore bound?

Or he'll man up and face the consequences - daddy will pay the families, make "donations" where required and he'll have to endure the suspended minor sentence and 100 hours community service which he'll never do.

Don't forget popping into the Temple , that's the norm too, come out all refreshed and cleansed....

[skildpadden]

Officers In Charge of Ayutthaya Deadly Collision Removed

By Teeranai Charuvastra

Staff Reporter

National police deputy commander Pongsapat Pongcharoen, at right, on Thursday night inspects the burned out remains of Ford Fiesta in the Sunday collision.

AYUTTHAYA — The police officers investigating Sunday’s deadly collision that left two dead on an Ayutthaya highway have been replaced following criticism they failed to test the driver for alcohol and drug use.

Police said yesterday that new officers have been brought in to oversee the case against 37-year-old Jenphop Viraporn. He was only charged with fatal reckless driving yesterday, three days after he slammed his Mercedes-Benz into a Ford Fiesta at high speed, killing two graduate students inside. Both victims - a man and a woman - were in their early 30s.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1458280013

-- Khaosod English 2016-03-18

The guy in the middle background is already thinking about the new car he will buy for his envelope, whereas the guy on the left is clearly saying " hey, I want in on it as well!".

[tx22cb]

Thanks to social media in the last 2 days, looks as though justice might prevail.

1) national police bigwigs getting involved

2) initial (local) investigators removed from the case

3) the graduates are getting royal-sponsored cremations .... so daddy's money/influence is stuffed.

I just hope some corrupt police will fall too.

They police are investigating the police for alleged delays in the investigation. Wonder if they'll investigate why no tests for drugs and alcohol were made?

"Sir, you've just caused and accident resulting in 2 fatalities. We will test you for drugs and alcohol"

Rich driver: "No, you won't."

"O k sir, have a good day".

Pathetic police work. More interested in the "angle" for themselves than justice and enforcing the law.

Palace representatives are involved - nowhere to hide now for the twerp and incompetent police.

So no Switcheroo with a mysterious driver coming forward to claim that the scum was just a passenger.

Just learnt that the perp has in the past been involved in other accidents (same 3333 licence plates but on a BMW) without getting punished by the police (family businesses have asset values approaching a billion Baht) - this immunity/impunity stops here and now.

[Artisi]

If this guy walks, it will be a very sad day for Thailand.

I'd say, it won't be a sad day for Thailand but rather, it will underline the sad state of affairs here, because the fact is, many have walked before him, don't you think so? A rich brat driving a Ferrari comes to mind...

Correct, but I don't have the time to list all of those who have walked

[Nobb]

Money must be involved just like the Red Bull cop killer and the actress cop killer. He is a sick man that is begging for help and a few years in prison might clean all the devils out of him. New PM but nothing changes!

[harrycallahan]

Impact damage doesn't lie. If he was driving well in excess of the speed limit then it's just as reckless as driving drunk.

[Nobb]

Officers In Charge of Ayutthaya Deadly Collision Removed

By Teeranai Charuvastra

Staff Reporter

National police deputy commander Pongsapat Pongcharoen, at right, on Thursday night inspects the burned out remains of Ford Fiesta in the Sunday collision.

AYUTTHAYA — The police officers investigating Sunday’s deadly collision that left two dead on an Ayutthaya highway have been replaced following criticism they failed to test the driver for alcohol and drug use.

Police said yesterday that new officers have been brought in to oversee the case against 37-year-old Jenphop Viraporn. He was only charged with fatal reckless driving yesterday, three days after he slammed his Mercedes-Benz into a Ford Fiesta at high speed, killing two graduate students inside. Both victims - a man and a woman - were in their early 30s.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1458280013

-- Khaosod English 2016-03-18

The guy in the middle background is already thinking about the new car he will buy for his envelope, whereas the guy on the left is clearly saying " hey, I want in on it as well!".

No doubt the failed. Seen a Mercedes and feared for there jobs. Business as usual!

[Pimay1]

Jenphop Plowed Through Toll Booth Before Deadly Crash

By Teeranai Charuvastra

Staff Reporter

Jenphop Viraporn blows through a toll booth barrier not long before causing two deaths Sunday in a still image from security footage.

BANGKOK — Not long before speeding on to cause two highway deaths, vehicular manslaughter suspect Jenphop Viraporn smashed through a Bangkok toll booth barrier in an incident also captured on video.

About an hour before the 37-year-old luxury car dealer slammed into a vehicle on a highway in Ayutthaya which then burst into flames, killing two students inside, Jenphop was filmed in the same Mercedes-Benz in a video uploaded to social media Friday.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1458284768

-- Khaosod English 2016-03-18

In any normal civilized country someone who drives through a toll, smashing the barrier, then plows at excessive speed into the back of another car, killing to innocent young people, and then who also refuses to be tested for illegal drugs and alcohol would be facing a long prison sentence.

Let's see how this one pans out in Thailand.

Blood money paid, some public merit making with media present, slap on the wrist, suspended sentence, and maybe some community service? Or a long prison sentence, driving ban and very big fine?

What's the betting?

Or will it simply disappear like all those others where the chosen ones are involved?

The ghosts of the two deceased will probably visit the "Thai businessman" and tell him he is forgiven. That should clear things up. It worked in another case.

Edited March 18, 2016 by Pimay1

[Lupatria]

Two postgrad students burned to death

By an alleged drunk speeding in his Benz.

he really needs to PAY BIG TIME !!

You don't live in Thailand, do you?

[monty1412]

you couldn't make this up even if you were a deranged script writer.....

Quotes from the leading cop

“They are capable and knowledgeable.

What comparative to the previous ones who were incapable and unknowledgable ??

They have experience in working on many investigations.

​So the ones you first had investigate didn't have experience.... how much experience does it take to demand a drug and alcohol test ????

The public can trust in police work; we will not help anyone in particular.”

​NO Im sure not in particular in fact only those who have the necessary credentials....there the particular ones

[Bluespunk]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

True. On the other hand, without social media do you think that there would have been any investigation let alone trial and punishment?

That's my point.

It is insane that this is what it takes to get anything done.

Unless something is done to completely overhaul the BIB this is going to keep on happening and it is a certainty that innocent people will be tried by social media and then how long before some moron takes it into their head to exact justice.

It's happened in the UK with false pedophile accusations leading to people getting seriously hurt.

Trial by social media is a blunt weapon, not bound by any rules of evidence or justice, that cannot be good for any society.

[Bluespunk]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

True. On the other hand, without social media do you think that there would have been any investigation let alone trial and punishment?

Social media is the only effective 'check and balance' that Thailand has at the moment.

Not aiming this at Bluespunk, but most posters criticising social media as an investigative entity have an agenda, such as in the Koh Tao murder threads.

Anyway, this scumbag Jenphob deserves to have the book thrown at him, but I won't hold my breath.

I do have an agenda. I do not feel social; media should be considered a substitute for an actual legal system.

I feel that accusations without proof, judgements and assumptions based upon the "well it's obvious innit" school of thought

rather than evidence, proof and a dispassionate legal system is ultimately going to become a weapon that no one can control and innocent people are going to get hurt, badly hurt.

It's happened already in cases in the UK.

I'm not saying that is the case here, but the fact is, trial by social media will only end in tears.

Edited March 18, 2016 by Bluespunk

[ballpoint]

Officers In Charge of Ayutthaya Deadly Collision Removed

By Teeranai Charuvastra

Staff Reporter

National police deputy commander Pongsapat Pongcharoen, at right, on Thursday night inspects the burned out remains of Ford Fiesta in the Sunday collision.

AYUTTHAYA — The police officers investigating Sunday’s deadly collision that left two dead on an Ayutthaya highway have been replaced following criticism they failed to test the driver for alcohol and drug use.

Police said yesterday that new officers have been brought in to oversee the case against 37-year-old Jenphop Viraporn. He was only charged with fatal reckless driving yesterday, three days after he slammed his Mercedes-Benz into a Ford Fiesta at high speed, killing two graduate students inside. Both victims - a man and a woman - were in their early 30s.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1458280013

-- Khaosod English 2016-03-18

The guy in the middle background is already thinking about the new car he will buy for his envelope, whereas the guy on the left is clearly saying " hey, I want in on it as well!".

I'm wondering about that book on the front of the car. It looks charred around the edges, surely it wasn't in the car at the time of the collision? Then again, from the pose of Pongsapat, it looks like he's just thrown it on there. Once again, the Thai police throw the book at the innocent party.

[scorecard]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

True. On the other hand, without social media do you think that there would have been any investigation let alone trial and punishment?

Social media is the only effective 'check and balance' that Thailand has at the moment.

Not aiming this at Bluespunk, but most posters criticising social media as an investigative entity have an agenda, such as in the Koh Tao murder threads.

Anyway, this scumbag Jenphob deserves to have the book thrown at him, but I won't hold my breath.

I do have an agenda. I do not feel social; media should be considered a substitute for an actual legal system.

I feel that accusations without proof, judgements and assumptions based upon the "well it's obvious innit" school of thought

rather than evidence, proof and a dispassionate legal system is ultimately going to become a weapon that no one can control and innocent people are going to get hurt, badly hurt.

It's happened already in cases in the UK.

I'm not saying that is the case here, but the fact is, trial by social media will only end in tears.

I don't disagree in principle with what you say. On the other hand there's a case to say in this country (and no doubt in many more) that social media is a catalyst which is strongly pushing, even forcing the police, and other agencies, to do something, compared to in the past just ignoring hi-so cases.

Perhaps ultimately it might be the push that twists the arm of the police to stand up to powerful & unscrupulous people - I certainly hope so.

From another angle it seems to be a catalyst that is slowing pushing more Thais(same on other countries) to speak up, it's making them more brave to speak up, which surely is a step forward.

But ultimately your right, trial by social media is not appropriate.

Edited March 18, 2016 by scorecard

[Langsuan Man]

I can't wait for the crocodile tears when be comes to the funerals

I still remember the smirk on the face of the Red Bull heir when he showed up at the rites for cop he killed. Not to mention those oversized sun glasses as if he was off to a day of fishing

[rosst]

I watched the video and saw the results, Merc driver is rich and police lack of immediate action is a bloody disgrace. RIP the young people and even though a lot of money will change hands, I would like to see the <deleted> spend a couple of years in the Bangkok Hilton paying for protection.

[SABloke]

I actually think the video of him driving througt the toll helps his case now. His lawyer will argue that he was clearly under mental duress and therefore cannot be blamed for his actions. Bus stop anyone...

[whiterussian]

(family businesses have asset values approaching a billion Baht)

The usual amount for negligence/manslaughter is about 300,000thb isn't it? Or is it on a scale of potential earnings? A massive payout might be the only thing that scares families like this

[Artisi]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

True. On the other hand, without social media do you think that there would have been any investigation let alone trial and punishment?

That's my point.

It is insane that this is what it takes to get anything done.

Unless something is done to completely overhaul the BIB this is going to keep on happening and it is a certainty that innocent people will be tried by social media and then how long before some moron takes it into their head to exact justice.

It's happened in the UK with false pedophile accusations leading to people getting seriously hurt.

Trial by social media is a blunt weapon, not bound by any rules of evidence or justice, that cannot be good for any society.

I think in this case, when the average man in the street has a lot more common sense and reasoning facilities than the average BIB, has access to two videos showing this crazy fwit and his driving, why shouldn't they comment, especially where there is no chance of any false accusations.

[tomyumchai]

If you watch the film you will see this guy drifting to the left lane, the so called slow lane, and striking the other vehicle from behind. According to several news reports the speedometer in the Benz was stuck on 200 plus km at the time of the accident. Oddly enough, after the car was taken to the police lot the battery was removed so the speedometer reads zero. Will the computer still show the speed or will there be no record? This guy was either under the influence or texting, there was no reason for him to enter the slow lane and no apparent effort to brake.

he was undertaking at very high speed and tried for a gap that was blatently not there and hit a kerb and the fiesta. ive just driven up the 32.... every dick in a million bt+ car drives the same.

[Robm579]

When you don't trust the government....the police... The army.... To do the right thing what other options are there other than place some faith in society to front up via social media and voice their concerns... Or release the culprit and let society deal with him as in the days gone by

[lvr181]

Investigation, trial and punishment by social media.

Madness

Got a better idea for these "usual" circumstances (like no or little action for driving carelessly causing death)?

[silverado]

Officers In Charge of Ayutthaya Deadly Collision Removed

By Teeranai Charuvastra

Staff Reporter

National police deputy commander Pongsapat Pongcharoen, at right, on Thursday night inspects the burned out remains of Ford Fiesta in the Sunday collision.

AYUTTHAYA — The police officers investigating Sunday’s deadly collision that left two dead on an Ayutthaya highway have been replaced following criticism they failed to test the driver for alcohol and drug use.

Police said yesterday that new officers have been brought in to oversee the case against 37-year-old Jenphop Viraporn. He was only charged with fatal reckless driving yesterday, three days after he slammed his Mercedes-Benz into a Ford Fiesta at high speed, killing two graduate students inside. Both victims - a man and a woman - were in their early 30s.

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1458280013

-- Khaosod English 2016-03-18

The guy in the middle background is already thinking about the new car he will buy for his envelope, whereas the guy on the left is clearly saying " hey, I want in on it as well!".

No doubt the failed. Seen a Mercedes and feared for there jobs. Business as usual!

you're wrong ! not fear for their job ... just glad to have a big opportunity to get a big envelope

[silverado]

(family businesses have asset values approaching a billion Baht)

The usual amount for negligence/manslaughter is about 300,000thb isn't it? Or is it on a scale of potential earnings? A massive payout might be the only thing that scares families like this

the amount depends just of the victim's relatives social level.... 300.000 should be for a cop i guess for a farmer should be 100.000

[trainman34014]

From khaosod, "In an interview with MCOT, Jenphop’s father said his son had no memory of the crash and he asked people not to rush to judgment. He said they would act responsibly toward the families of the deceased."

I hope the as yet unidentified parents of the as yet unidentified victims DO NOT accept this thinly veiled and vile offer of cash.

But I don't hold out much hope.

I did read on a Thai-written newspaper that dad of one of the victims promised to go all the way in till the perp will be punished.

I wish him best luck.

He will die waiting, most likely in a 'freak accident'.

[sandgroper2]

Off the top of my head, here are the points at which influential people can avoid paying for their crimes in Thailand.

1. No police investigation

2. Police investigation but someone else fitted up for it.

3. Rap taken by a nong. Perhaps a goon or driver has to face the music.

4. Police investigation but no charges laid.

5. Charges laid but case dropped by District Prosecutor.

6. District Prosecutor "chucks" the case in court by watering down the key evidence.

7. Defendant spins the process out with numerous medical adjournements of the case.

8. The judge is paid off and the defendant found not guilty due to insufficient evidence.

9. Bail is given at every opportunity even after being found guilty in the court of first instance.

10. Flee abroad.

11. The defendant is placed under psychiatric supervision.

12. A very large delay between the initial guilty verdict and the Appeals Court verdict.

13. Appeals Court is another opportunity to influence a judge.

14. If found guilty there, more freedom on bail is given.

15. Many years later, the case reaches the Supreme Court.

16. Another judge, another opportunity.

17. Defendant fails to appear for hearing and the police don't look very hard for him.

18. Substitute does the prison time.

19. No substitute in prison, simply pay off the Corrections Dept to say he is incarcerated there when he isn't.

20. Fake death.

There are more creative ones but you can see only proles do time in Thailand.

Just a quick read and already 4 instances of slander. Your a braver man than i Gungerdin. What books would you like delivered to the monkey house? I would never consider that a thai judge could be paid off, and put it in writing for the world to see. Some people do take screen shots for future reference, so be careful.