Trump opens up on his foreign policy positions

[Jingthing]

>>All she cares about is money, power and her connections to big money. <<

She likes women too .I mean she really ,really really likes young good looking women .

So you're saying she's a lesbian. If so, so what and who cares except anti-gay bigots?

Anyway, if she is a lesbian, she's totally in the closet, so it's even more of a NON-issue.

My perception of her sexuality is more like wannabepresidentsexual than anything standard.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Jingthing

[uptheos]

If Hilary get's in watch America nose dive at high speed!

Watch your 35 baht to the dollar go to 25 baht to the dollar in lightning fast time.

Edited March 23, 2016 by uptheos

[Pinot]

If Hilary get's in watch America nose dive at high speed!

Watch your 35 baht to the dollar go to 25 baht to the dollar in lightning fast time.

And that tidbit of nonsense is based on...?

[anto]

>>All she cares about is money, power and her connections to big money. <<

She likes women too .I mean she really ,really really likes young good looking women .

So you're saying she's a lesbian. If so, so what and who cares except anti-gay bigots?

Anyway, if she is a lesbian, she's totally in the closet, so it's even more of a NON-issue.

My perception of her sexuality is more like wannabepresidentsexual than anything standard.

If ?when she becomes president ,''taking ladies to lunch '' will take on a who new meaning .

[Jingthing]

We get it. Trying to smear HRC with sexual rumors. Very low and stupid.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Jingthing

[Linzz]

It's already up and running and not because they are embarrassed about Trump. He's an unknown entity and an anti politician and he just might trim their cushy and lucrative positions of power. They would rather have Hillary than Trump or Sanders because neither are bought by special interest groups and banks so are not controlled and could shake up Washington and it's oligarchs and plutocrats. It's all about power and the money. If Trump gets too close to the levers of power, they'll probably have him shot and then blame some Mexican or Muslim whom they've hired, then shoot him to shut him up. It's even happened before in 1963

Another favorite tactic of wingnuts, conspiracy theories or in this case a potential conspiracy theory for an event that hasn't happened.

Well thank you Pinot for suggesting I'm a wingnut. Which wing left or right? 2 candidates could change the status quo, Sanders or Trump. You love to put people into your simplistic boxes

.'Fortunately, enough Americans have receive(d) at least a high school education and realize how absolutely insane that thinking is" Your attitude .is very condescending and it's obvious that you have no understanding or identification with the common or uneducated man, although you no doubt vote Democrat. Chardonnay socialist are you or make that Pinot ? I take it you consider yourself educated and that makes you superior to the electorate that supports Trump. They are mostly the unrepresented and nothing is going well for them and Trump in their eyes has the street cred that no career politician can give.

Conspiracy theory? Perhaps but still a possibility. The bankers and Google will be pouring in millions to Hillary's campaign because they want to be on the side of whoever owns the Whitehouse.

Chardonnay socialist? Tch. Elitist? I do find it impossible to relate to the wingnut community...maybe a character flaw?

Bankers and Google, okay. Whatever.

America needs a guy with street cred? The guy is a corrupt Mussolini wannabe. He has no political skills or experience. President of the United States? Really? He's a world-wide embarrassment. A stain on America's heritage.

You sir, sound like a typical Trump supporter. Good luck in the upcoming Republican trainwreck that the November elections promise to be.

It is very condescending, isn't it?

Actually I would prefer Bernie but he may get swamped trying to please everyone. I would support Trump economically but I'm not happy about waterboarding, although I am sure that pales into insignificance compared to countries that do torture with impunity and no accountability.

"Bankers and Google, okay. Whatever." You dismiss so easily as if the millions of $$ can't alter outcomes and the buying of elections! Incredible.

What I am saying is that it's the political establishment, career politicians, bankers and Wall Street, bureaucratic officials, academia, the "educated" and the plutocrats that have hijacked the system for their own benefit and caused a yawning gulf and a division between the have and the have not's and a system that is not working for the thousands of people who support Trump. The failure of the Democratic party to be honest. That's why I said they identify with him because in their eyes he is a billionaire with street cred, and the desperate believers and 'silent majority' do not really care what he says.

But I see you, sir, as part of that problem, revealed in your posts, because you belong to a superior class of person who looks down their nose at the uneducated and the great unwashed and dismiss them as of no value and to be scorned. It is because of attitudes like yours and the establishment, is the reason for the huge disconnect and why Trump has come into being in the first place. Blame yourself. Congratulations.

Republican train wreck is a reality and you are right there, but I blame them for exactly the same reason.

[Jingthing]

Big trouble in "republican" land.

The show goes on:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0322-goldberg-gop-end-20160322-column.html

Nominating Donald Trump will end the Republican Party as we know it. So will not nominating him

...

Put simply, and with the incessant and obtuse comparisons of Trump to Reagan notwithstanding, you cannot have a party that's both Reaganite and Trumpish.

...

To wit: This ends in tears no matter what. Get over it and pick a side.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Jingthing

[chuckd]

For those saying Trump is not a hot-headed war monger, let me insert one of his recent quotes......

"I'd bomb the shit out of ISIS"

It shows how out to lunch his thinking is. For starters, you don't win wars by bombing the shit out of your enemy, particularly when he's hiding among women and children. Secondly, nothing would be better for ISIS recruitment than having an ignorant hot-head dropping bombs on villages in dune regions.

If Trump had an ant infestation in his back yard or in his house, he would probably call out the entire neighborhood to watch as he tossed lit firecrackers at their nests, all the while shouting what a big dick he has.

Please pass on to us your proposed battle plan for handling ISIS.

If bombing the shit out of them is too extreme, since it might actually kill or injure their offspring, precisely what should be done.

Be a warrior. The situation calls for one.

[Linzz]

If anyone listened to the speeches you would have heard Hillary and Ted sucking up to the pro-jewish lobby in such a way as to be almost sickening. They were literally groveling at the members feet to get support/votes. No way could either of them deliver on what they spoke about. It was so far out of the ball park in being realistic that you wondered if either of these two actually live in the real world. It was absolutely pathetic and only shows what these politicians will do for votes.

I thought Hillary Clinton's speech was excellent.

This is a better picture of how HRC will be as president than her campaigning. This is a substantive speech, not a campaign rally stump speech. She's isn't so great at those but she's good enough to win.

She is positioning herself very well. To the right of Obama on the USA-Israel relationship but not extremist like Cruz. Cruz of course is about the Christian fundamentalist base which is of course much more right wing than American Jews. It's a funny kind of support considering what many of them believe about the fate of the Jews in their religious dogma.

Of course Hillary Clinton is a seasoned professional politician. Donald Trump is Donald Trump. Bottom line, I don't think the majority of American voters are that stupid to go for that bombastic psychopathic con man. Maybe 49 percent though.

While I have some sympathy with your views on the Jews, I'm not sure what you mean by what Christian fundamentalists believe "about the fate of the Jews in their religious dogma". If they read their Bible (and fundamentalists usually do) they would know that God made an everlasting covenant with Israel never to abandon her and that according to those scriptures they would eventually see the error of their ways.

[chuckd]

The key word is 'hopefully.' We don't really know, with Trump. For starters, everything and everyone for him is either wonderful or horrible. ...and it can flip or flop hours or days later. He either loves you or hates you. To him, America is either in the dumps or the greatest country, depending on his mood. At least the other candidates, even Cruz, are rather consistent in their opinions and views. Trump is like a 14 yr old FB girl who categorizes everyone in her life as someone she either loves or hates, and that can change with a glance.

Bush Junior ran on a policy of non-intervention and non-nation building. Didn't last long though. Circumstances pushed him down a dark alley on his lonesome where he was mugged by Richard Pearle Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and the rest of the gang. Poor fellow.

Now that Trump is championing the cause of non-intervention, will those braying for more intervention cease to support him? By the sounds of it, Clinton is far more hawkish.

Clinton is not more Hawkish. Who spoke about carpet bombing M.East towns and killing terrorists' families and committing torture a lot worse than waterboarding? In contrast, Clinton knows about foreign affairs, knows foreign leaders, and knows about laws (she's a lawyer and knows that torture is illegal as is killing families of terrorists). Clinton is also cool-headed, as opposed to the quick-to-anger hot-head.

If you were a soldier in a ground war. Would you rather have an easily-offended, telling-people-he-has-the-biggest... dick - in charge, or would you rather have a cool-headed pragmatic knowledgeable-about-issues & tactics person in charge? I would much rather have someone like HRC or Sanders (who served 2 years as chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee) deciding whether to send young men into battle.

Good point. I should have said Clinton is sometimes more hawkish than Trump and it depends on what day and what Donald Trump turns up. Contender Trump is a confusing kaleidoscope of policy positions. Not about the Wall though. The Wall is a constant. With regard to the Wall, have any of our more conspiracy minded members considered that this wall might not be at to keep Mexicans out but to keep Americans in?? Yeah, that's right, Trump and Honecker, Honeker and Trump. Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? Well, there's form right there for Trump. He knows a thing or two about eminent domain. Truly, I'm surprised that my colleagues who were able to nut out the evil machinations of the Federal Government and FEEMA in Texas can't see this Wall for what it is. An attempt to lock us all in.

Besides your hypothesis about the purpose of the wall being to "lock us all in" being beyond ridiculous, How is it going to keep those of us that are living in Thailand "locked in"?

"Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? "

Now let me ask what land would be required by the use of imminent domain to build the wall?

[Linzz]

Following is an example of Trump's foreign policy thoughts from three months ago.

Any comments from you Hillary/Bernie drones?

The least you can do is attack the source. Don't disappoint me, now.

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Donald Trump Finds New City to Insult: Brussels

By DAN BILEFSKY and CLAIRE BARTHELEMY

JAN. 27, 2016

LONDON — He incensed Paris and London by saying that some of their neighborhoods were so overrun with radicals that the police were too scared to enter.

He raised Scottish tempers by threatening to pull the plug on his investments there, including his luxury golf courses, if British politicians barred him from entering Britain.

Now Donald J. Trump has upset the already beleaguered people of Belgium, calling its capital, Brussels, “a hellhole.”

Read more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/world/europe/trump-finds-new-city-to-insult-brussels.html?_r=1

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In the interview, Trump goes on to respond to a question with...

"There is something going on, Maria,” he said. “Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it’s not good, where they want Shariah law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know, there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on.”

It appears he got this one right.

Have to agree with you Chuckd on the restricted areas even police are reluctant to enter. Good example Sweden as in this video

Problem is we have Jihadist militants and we have "Christian" militants such as Britain First. It is not going to end well.

[Neurath]

The key word is 'hopefully.' We don't really know, with Trump. For starters, everything and everyone for him is either wonderful or horrible. ...and it can flip or flop hours or days later. He either loves you or hates you. To him, America is either in the dumps or the greatest country, depending on his mood. At least the other candidates, even Cruz, are rather consistent in their opinions and views. Trump is like a 14 yr old FB girl who categorizes everyone in her life as someone she either loves or hates, and that can change with a glance.

Bush Junior ran on a policy of non-intervention and non-nation building. Didn't last long though. Circumstances pushed him down a dark alley on his lonesome where he was mugged by Richard Pearle Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and the rest of the gang. Poor fellow.

Now that Trump is championing the cause of non-intervention, will those braying for more intervention cease to support him? By the sounds of it, Clinton is far more hawkish.

Clinton is not more Hawkish. Who spoke about carpet bombing M.East towns and killing terrorists' families and committing torture a lot worse than waterboarding? In contrast, Clinton knows about foreign affairs, knows foreign leaders, and knows about laws (she's a lawyer and knows that torture is illegal as is killing families of terrorists). Clinton is also cool-headed, as opposed to the quick-to-anger hot-head.

If you were a soldier in a ground war. Would you rather have an easily-offended, telling-people-he-has-the-biggest... dick - in charge, or would you rather have a cool-headed pragmatic knowledgeable-about-issues & tactics person in charge? I would much rather have someone like HRC or Sanders (who served 2 years as chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee) deciding whether to send young men into battle.

Good point. I should have said Clinton is sometimes more hawkish than Trump and it depends on what day and what Donald Trump turns up. Contender Trump is a confusing kaleidoscope of policy positions. Not about the Wall though. The Wall is a constant. With regard to the Wall, have any of our more conspiracy minded members considered that this wall might not be at to keep Mexicans out but to keep Americans in?? Yeah, that's right, Trump and Honecker, Honeker and Trump. Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? Well, there's form right there for Trump. He knows a thing or two about eminent domain. Truly, I'm surprised that my colleagues who were able to nut out the evil machinations of the Federal Government and FEEMA in Texas can't see this Wall for what it is. An attempt to lock us all in.

Besides your hypothesis about the purpose of the wall being to "lock us all in" being beyond ridiculous, How is it going to keep those of us that are living in Thailand "locked in"?

"Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? "

Now let me ask what land would be required by the use of imminent domain to build the wall?

You're not a lock-in or shut-in? Honestly hadn't considered that.

[Linzz]

For those saying Trump is not a hot-headed war monger, let me insert one of his recent quotes......

"I'd bomb the shit out of ISIS"

It shows how out to lunch his thinking is. For starters, you don't win wars by bombing the shit out of your enemy, particularly when he's hiding among women and children. Secondly, nothing would be better for ISIS recruitment than having an ignorant hot-head dropping bombs on villages in dune regions.

If Trump had an ant infestation in his back yard or in his house, he would probably call out the entire neighborhood to watch as he tossed lit firecrackers at their nests, all the while shouting what a big dick he has.

I don't normally agree with you but It's a fair point you make Boomer. The killing of the innocent among them, ISIS wants nothing more than a conflagration in the ME, because deludedly they expect to win to fulfill history. That way it pulls moderate Muslims into their fold. Same reason for the bombings in the West, to turn Westerners against the Muslim population so that they also become radicalized.

I still think it's pre election Trump speak however.

[slipperylobster]

Great man .I.M.O....May he live to become President.

>>Really embarrassing to be an American now,<<

em ,now ok ,but more so when Bush was President.

He just took Arizona. I believe we will know by tomorrow, as Utah hopefully falls in line.

Hillary does not have a chance in hades of beating a "Republican Backed" Trump. Getting support from his party will be the next step.

By the way....Trump is not dumb as his opponents claim. How many people made it to the top of the Business World and became Billionaires? Not many dummies in that club. I do think Trump can't help himself with his tough street-wise slang. That is just going to be that way. Rather that then a wimpy Obama speech. Hillary screams too much...and looks like a she devil that wants to emasculate Washington...after playing second saxophone to the Hor-monica.

[chuckd]

The key word is 'hopefully.' We don't really know, with Trump. For starters, everything and everyone for him is either wonderful or horrible. ...and it can flip or flop hours or days later. He either loves you or hates you. To him, America is either in the dumps or the greatest country, depending on his mood. At least the other candidates, even Cruz, are rather consistent in their opinions and views. Trump is like a 14 yr old FB girl who categorizes everyone in her life as someone she either loves or hates, and that can change with a glance.

Clinton is not more Hawkish. Who spoke about carpet bombing M.East towns and killing terrorists' families and committing torture a lot worse than waterboarding? In contrast, Clinton knows about foreign affairs, knows foreign leaders, and knows about laws (she's a lawyer and knows that torture is illegal as is killing families of terrorists). Clinton is also cool-headed, as opposed to the quick-to-anger hot-head.

If you were a soldier in a ground war. Would you rather have an easily-offended, telling-people-he-has-the-biggest... dick - in charge, or would you rather have a cool-headed pragmatic knowledgeable-about-issues & tactics person in charge? I would much rather have someone like HRC or Sanders (who served 2 years as chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee) deciding whether to send young men into battle.

Good point. I should have said Clinton is sometimes more hawkish than Trump and it depends on what day and what Donald Trump turns up. Contender Trump is a confusing kaleidoscope of policy positions. Not about the Wall though. The Wall is a constant. With regard to the Wall, have any of our more conspiracy minded members considered that this wall might not be at to keep Mexicans out but to keep Americans in?? Yeah, that's right, Trump and Honecker, Honeker and Trump. Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? Well, there's form right there for Trump. He knows a thing or two about eminent domain. Truly, I'm surprised that my colleagues who were able to nut out the evil machinations of the Federal Government and FEEMA in Texas can't see this Wall for what it is. An attempt to lock us all in.

Besides your hypothesis about the purpose of the wall being to "lock us all in" being beyond ridiculous, How is it going to keep those of us that are living in Thailand "locked in"?

"Notice all the eminent domain confiscations that will be needed for The Wall? "

Now let me ask what land would be required by the use of imminent domain to build the wall?

You're not a lock-in or shut-in? Honestly hadn't considered that.

It's patently obvious you didn't consider your imminent domain comment either.

[chuckd]

It's been a long time since I agreed with anything Piers Morgan had to say.

For a refreshing change, he finally seems to be coming to his senses.

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PIERS MORGAN: When it comes to terror, isn’t it time we started listening seriously to Trump?

By PIERS MORGAN

PUBLISHED: 19:11 GMT, 22 March 2016 | UPDATED: 21:58 GMT, 22 March 2016

How many more?

That’s all I could think this morning as news broke of yet another ISIS terror attack, this time in Brussels.

How many more innocent men, women and children are going to be blown to pieces by these murderous bastards?

How many more airports, train stations, sports stadiums, restaurants or concert halls will be obliterated in a hail of suicide bombs and bullets?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3504893/PIERS-MORGAN-comes-terror-isn-t-time-started-listening-seriously-Trump.html#ixzz43i31RwUE

[Merzik]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Merzik

[Credo]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

You might want to check on who were the driving forces behind Libya and Syria. It wasn't the US.

[keemapoot]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

Ans:

1. Yes I was embarrassed by just about everything George W. did, and dismayed by the errant Iraq war to be honest. But, I was impressed by his father George H.W. Bush in many ways.

2. Yes, embarrassed by Obama's errors in judgement in Syria, and no to Libya, see post above.

3. I see that the especially the GOP neocons have degenerated into a dysfunctional party under threat of continued existence as proven by the rise of Trump. The Dem libtards will have their moment too if not careful, and Clinton is surely corporate/military establish stuff, but is competent to lead a nation with a steady hand, though of questionable repute. I also think Romney could lead the country with a steady hand.

4. Trump is just wrong. period.

[anto]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

Excellent well put post Sir/Madam .

Edited March 23, 2016 by anto

[Scott]

Posts violating rules have been removed.

[Chicog]

It's been a long time since I agreed with anything Piers Morgan had to say.

For a refreshing change, he finally seems to be coming to his senses.

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PIERS MORGAN: When it comes to terror, isn’t it time we started listening seriously to Trump?

By PIERS MORGAN

PUBLISHED: 19:11 GMT, 22 March 2016 | UPDATED: 21:58 GMT, 22 March 2016

How many more?

That’s all I could think this morning as news broke of yet another ISIS terror attack, this time in Brussels.

How many more innocent men, women and children are going to be blown to pieces by these murderous bastards?

How many more airports, train stations, sports stadiums, restaurants or concert halls will be obliterated in a hail of suicide bombs and bullets?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3504893/PIERS-MORGAN-comes-terror-isn-t-time-started-listening-seriously-Trump.html#ixzz43i31RwUE

Morgan writing in the Daily Mail about Donald Trump.

The perfect storm of witless talking heads.

[Merzik]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

You might want to check on who were the driving forces behind Libya and Syria. It wasn't the US.

I am French and American. I remember Sarko, BHL ....and all the other French NeoCons pushing for the Libyian war. Yet it was the American military which did the vast majority of the fighting; not the French. This was obama's war and it was unconstitutionsl to boot...done without the approval of Congress.

[Merzik]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

Ans:

1. Yes I was embarrassed by just about everything George W. did, and dismayed by the errant Iraq war to be honest. But, I was impressed by his father George H.W. Bush in many ways.

2. Yes, embarrassed by Obama's errors in judgement in Syria, and no to Libya, see post above.

3. I see that the especially the GOP neocons have degenerated into a dysfunctional party under threat of continued existence as proven by the rise of Trump. The Dem libtards will have their moment too if not careful, and Clinton is surely corporate/military establish stuff, but is competent to lead a nation with a steady hand, though of questionable repute. I also think Romney could lead the country with a steady hand.

4. Trump is just wrong. period.

Romney is a close friend of Netanyahu and a strong supporter of the Likudnics "Greater Israel" expansionist policy and would very likely get the USA into a war with Iran after Assad is knocked off. He is even more reckless than Baby Bush. Clinton is guilty of numerous war crimes dating back to her co-presidency war against Serbia all the way to her enthousiastic support for the Libyan and Syrian wars.

So for you to be opposed to the Republican NeoCons and and then turn around and support Romney and Clinton makes no sense at all.

Again the French and Europeans were not the ones who did the heavy fighting in Libya....the USA did and were the pricipal force behind the bombing campaign and for the overthrow of Gaddaffi by the jihadist army we armed and supported in every way. Obama was no reluctent warrior.

Edited March 23, 2016 by Merzik

[keemapoot]

^ I base my support on governance consistency, competence, economic growth, and creating future opportunities for the nation of the USA and for its allies and trading partners. Other things to me are much less important, especially that entire mess called the Middle East.

I don't share your and others' grand indictments of the neocon war machine, corporate greed machine, and other such extremes. And, I don't share your presumed trust that Trump is at base an honest man, and for sure know he is not a sincere or competent man at governing the USA.

[Jblood]

Trump is a funny character.

I think he's just an actor - playing the "villain" character to make sure everybody votes for the only other option available - the democrats(the establishment, wall street bankers, NWO, etc...).

At the moment he's already a threat to national security. I don't think he will be elected. It was already decided that Hillary will be president... Trump is just playing the "Darth Vader" character to make it look like a genuine presidential race... It's just a show for the stupid masses, carefully organized by the elites...

But if it he does turn out to be the real deal - then nothing what he says really matters anyway, it's pretty common for all US presidents to do a 180 turn around right after they get elected - Obama is a perfect example... he did everything opposite of what he promised all through his 8 year term as a president.

It's a pretty hilarious show especially since most people seem to think that it's real... reminds me of a pro wrestling tournament... It's the same Bankers, tycoons, the intelligence agencies that are running the show... who gets elected as a president is completely irrelevant. If the establishment really wanted Trump out of the game - they would have bankrupted him a long time ago...

If he's real thing though I find him to be a very likable character - more guns, less Mexicans - who wouldn't vote for that? That's exactly what America needs at the moment.

[lannarebirth]

^ I base my support on governance consistency, competence, economic growth, and creating future opportunities for the nation of the USA and for its allies and trading partners. Other things to me are much less important, especially that entire mess called the Middle East.

I don't share your and others' grand indictments of the neocon war machine, corporate greed machine, and other such extremes. And, I don't share your presumed trust that Trump is at base an honest man, and for sure know he is not a sincere or competent man at governing the USA.

You keep coming back to Clinton's "competency". As a private lawyer, as an unelected policy maker, as a Senator, as the Secretary of State there are countless pieces of evidence pointing to HRC's incompetency and her strong inclination towards graft and circumvention of government regulations. Yes, she's spent a long time amongst the powerful, but IMO that doesn't have a bearing on competency.

I think you have to buy into the notion that everything is great now and that we've been doing all the right things for decades now, domestically, economically, fiscally, socially and in our foreign affairs to even begin to think that HRC is a decent candidate. Because every bad thing you can lay at the Republlicans and Democrats feet since 1992, she's going to do more of.

[Neurath]

Great man .I.M.O....May he live to become President.

>>Really embarrassing to be an American now,<<

em ,now ok ,but more so when Bush was President.

GW Bush is the biggest embarrassment to American to date.

But if elected, Trump has the potential and promise to surpass even GW.

Good luck America!

Fabulous, Fantastic Potential. He'll build it and make us pay for it.

[Neurath]

Astounding. Like watching a child invited to eat at the grown up table. Really embarrassing to be an American now, which I am.

Were you embarrassed when Bush ( with the support of Hilary Clinton ) launched the 4 trillion dollar Iraq war ( former World Bank president and Nobel Prize Laureate Joseph Stiglitz's estimate) which resulted in over a million deathes in a useless war based on lies and war propaganda? Trump was strongly oppossed to this war. Were you embarrassed by Obama and Hilary's wars in Libya and Syria which has resulted in chaos , mass immigration into Europe and the spread of islamist influence in the Middle East? Trump was the adult in the room warning of the negative consequences which followed. Your estsblishment Republican NeoCons and Libtard war party are an embarrassment to the US...as well as the clueless Americans who follow them based on lies and war propaganda from the corporate media.

Nah, Trump both supported the Iraq war and didn't support it. Take a look: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/19/donald-trump-confronted-with-past-support-for-iraq-war

[keemapoot]

^ I base my support on governance consistency, competence, economic growth, and creating future opportunities for the nation of the USA and for its allies and trading partners. Other things to me are much less important, especially that entire mess called the Middle East.

I don't share your and others' grand indictments of the neocon war machine, corporate greed machine, and other such extremes. And, I don't share your presumed trust that Trump is at base an honest man, and for sure know he is not a sincere or competent man at governing the USA.

You keep coming back to Clinton's "competency". As a private lawyer, as an unelected policy maker, as a Senator, as the Secretary of State there are countless pieces of evidence pointing to HRC's incompetency and her strong inclination towards graft and circumvention of government regulations. Yes, she's spent a long time amongst the powerful, but IMO that doesn't have a bearing on competency.

I think you have to buy into the notion that everything is great now and that we've been doing all the right things for decades now, domestically, economically, fiscally, socially and in our foreign affairs to even begin to think that HRC is a decent candidate. Because every bad thing you can lay at the Republlicans and Democrats feet since 1992, she's going to do more of.

I agree with you that she has done likely done those things you mention. You and I differ in how to characterize those actions. Circumvention of government regs, I consider to be abuse of process to achieve an end (like Nixon did but got caught - Nixon was also a very competent and effective President). The allegations of graft may be true, and we could add nepotism, favoritism (which she STRONGLY believes in), or other undesirable traits (a la House of Cards). Clinton is truly a Kevin Spacey, (or Ian Richardson if you like the original UK series) nasty conniving political character. You could also throw President Lyndon Johnson into that category if you want to reach back for precedent spanning both parties.

Clinton is nasty, conniving, plotting, opportunistic, ruthless, self-serving and lots more, but she is also competent in my opinion. She is competent by virtue of her education, native intelligence, cunning, and long apprenticeship in the halls of power, as well as having held two of the most powerful positions in the land. She connived her way there, but she got there.

To me she is a known quantity. She is rational and will do what is good for her, and secondly, what is good for the country, but understands BETTER what is good for the country than Trump.

Given the opportunity, I would pick Sanders over Clinton, but slim to none on chances. Next round, I would pick Romney over Clinton, unknown chances at this point, but not likely. Paul Ryan? dunno, but don't like him and unknown chances. But I would pick Clinton over Trump in any event. Very sad, but true.

Opportunists will usually not kill the golden goose. Crazy men can.

For many people, social issues are the important deciding point for a President. For me, it's economic and tax issues, and country growth, expansion and foreign relations. Domestic issues like healthcare and welfare of society are important for somewhat less in my view. I can live with either Republican or Democrat social policies, with reforms pushed forward, but cannot live with anarchy as Trump is aiming towards.

Edited March 23, 2016 by keemapoot