Turkey slams Belgian and Dutch officials over release of Brussels suicide bomber

[rooster59]

Turkey slams Belgian and Dutch officials over release of Brussels suicide bomber



Belgian MPs have been grilling federal ministers over the failure of government and intelligence services to prevent the deadly attacks in the capital.

Interior Minister Jan Jambon and Foreign Minister Didier Reynders were among those who spelled out what their offices did in the lead-up to the bombings.

Reynders said on July 14, 2015, Turkish authorities had informed them that one of the Brussels airport suicide bombers Ibrahim El Bakraoui had been deported to Amsterdam but they didn’t give any reason why.

In response, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused Belgian authorities of being soft on militant groups and described them as being “incapable” after the Netherlands released Bakraoui. Dutch authorities say Turkey failed to follow normal procedures when expelling him.

But speaking to supporters in the central Turkish town of Sorghum, Erdogan said: “We detained this guy, we deported him, sent him back but they didn’t do what was necessary and released that terrorist. Now, you should account for it.”

Erdogan also went on to compare the Islamic State with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) which is waging an insurgency in Turkey’s southeast, saying both are terrorist organisations.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-03-26

[SgtRock]

That Turkey detained this scumbag and then deported him is now not in question.

What is in question is why he was deported to Holland when he held a Belgian passport. He should have been deported direct to Belgium.

Is there no paper trail for this deportation ? That would immediately quell any and all speculation.

The problem here is between Belgium and Holland. EU harmony an cooperation not anywhere near what the Politico Brigade would have us believe.

[cmsally]

Sorry couldn't get past the Interior Minister's name!

[stevenl]

Erdogan is a divisive figure who is always on the attack.

Nothing he says is to be trusted, and him attacking others probably means Turkey made some major screw ups in this process.

[tartempion]

Sorry couldn't get past the Interior Minister's name!

Is Jan Pork better?

[trogers]

Sorry to say, but the EU has their brain matters all fallen off from open-mindedness...

[ChimeIn]

As much as I am not a big fan of Erdogan lets look at the facts

Was he deported? Yes

Did Turkey notify the Belgian mission that he is a suspected ISIS fighter? Yes.

According to the extradition treaty Turkey has with EU, the person can be deported to any EU country of their choosing, so Turkey had to ask the person which country he wanted to go in order to fulfill the legal requirements....

This time Erdogan is right guys.. Its not like Turkey deported this guy for protesting against the Erdogan regime

Turkey does not want to jail any EU citizen after the Midnight Express incident, had this guy been jailed in Turkey, liberals would of shot another version of Midnight Express, depicting this bomber as an innocent journalist.

Nearly all jihadis who try to sneak into the Syria tell the authorities they are journalists when caught.

The left is the biggest disease currently facing Europe, its not Erdogan its not Assad. It is the liberals in Europe, they are the ones that have welcomed these immigrants with open arms. Turkey is not at fault for deporting these guys here, it is tired of liberals too, for every EU citizen that gets jailed in Turkey a hit piece comes out about Turkey.

The enemy of the people are liberals, they are the ones responsible for the deaths. We need Trump guys, and we need him fast.

Edited March 26, 2016 by ChimeIn

[Steely Dan]

Erdogan is a divisive figure who is always on the attack.

Nothing he says is to be trusted, and him attacking others probably means Turkey made some major screw ups in this process.

Erdogan is an unstable troublemaker, but from my own personal experience of Belgium l suspect he may have a point here. It does highlight the folly of open borders though when a Continent as a whole is only as safe as the intelligence agencies of it's weakest link. Edited March 26, 2016 by Steely Dan

[Rancid]

Not that Turkey is to be trusted, but agree with others, seems Erdogan may actually be right this time. There again he is about to receive billions from the EU so seems to be covering his a*rse, maybe to get some more. Also apparently also part of the money deal Muslim Turks will soon have open access to the EU without visas, that influx will no doubt increase security.

You have to wonder though, it's almost like the EU are trying Islamicise on purpose regardless of the chaos and mayhem it is causing, what would their motivations be? Cheap unskilled labor for industry? Love of Mosque morning call to prayers? Multiculturalism? Or something else?

[Steely Dan]

Not that Turkey is to be trusted, but agree with others, seems Erdogan may actually be right this time. There again he is about to receive billions from the EU so seems to be covering his a*rse, maybe to get some more. Also apparently also part of the money deal Muslim Turks will soon have open access to the EU without visas, that influx will no doubt increase security.

You have to wonder though, it's almost like the EU are trying Islamicise on purpose regardless of the chaos and mayhem it is causing, what would their motivations be? Cheap unskilled labor for industry? Love of Mosque morning call to prayers? Multiculturalism? Or something else?

Serial stupidity is no longer likely and the effort taken to stop people commenting on the folly unfolding makes me suspect a broader plan is afoot. Once it has been rumbled making it a fait accompli by virtue of Turkish accession to the EU seems to fit.

http://www.amazon.com/Eurabia-Euro-Arab-Axis-Bat-Yeor/dp/1611473144

[maxisrael]

Sorry couldn't get past the Interior Minister's name!

Is Jan Pork better?

Jambon = Ham

[Credo]

Not that Turkey is to be trusted, but agree with others, seems Erdogan may actually be right this time. There again he is about to receive billions from the EU so seems to be covering his a*rse, maybe to get some more. Also apparently also part of the money deal Muslim Turks will soon have open access to the EU without visas, that influx will no doubt increase security.

You have to wonder though, it's almost like the EU are trying Islamicise on purpose regardless of the chaos and mayhem it is causing, what would their motivations be? Cheap unskilled labor for industry? Love of Mosque morning call to prayers? Multiculturalism? Or something else?

Serial stupidity is no longer likely and the effort taken to stop people commenting on the folly unfolding makes me suspect a broader plan is afoot. Once it has been rumbled making it a fait accompli by virtue of Turkish accession to the EU seems to fit.

http://www.amazon.com/Eurabia-Euro-Arab-Axis-Bat-Yeor/dp/1611473144

I am not much in conspiracy type stuff and I think that's the direction you are leaning. I think there is a simpler explanation.

Politicians, like most people, don't like to admit when they are/were wrong. The overlords of the EU have set up a situation in which migration in large numbers is possible and easy. They have failed to set in place some system of monitoring the quality of the people coming and the motives. They are now overwhelmed with a situation and back pedaling really isn't an option without unraveling the liberal, humanitarian, social systems they have worked so hard to get in place.

The bureaucrats and politicians have not kept their eye on the ball and now they are in one fine pickle.

Immigration and admitting refugees needs to be controlled. The basis for immigrants is to become a part of the existing culture, not to replace it. Europe has largely failed to see that. They have allowed ghettos like Molenbeek to grow and fester into the problem that they are.

[Steely Dan]

Erdogan is a divisive figure who is always on the attack.

Nothing he says is to be trusted, and him attacking others probably means Turkey made some major screw ups in this process.

Erdogan is an unstable troublemaker, but from my own personal experience of Belgium l suspect he may have a point here. It does highlight the folly of open borders though when a Continent as a whole is only as safe as the intelligence agencies of it's weakest link.

Belgium is SO much the weakest link. A nuclear power station worker found dead with his pass missing.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/26/belgian-nuclear-officer-found-dead-pass-stolen/

[stevenl]

Erdogan is a divisive figure who is always on the attack.

Nothing he says is to be trusted, and him attacking others probably means Turkey made some major screw ups in this process.

Erdogan is an unstable troublemaker, but from my own personal experience of Belgium l suspect he may have a point here. It does highlight the folly of open borders though when a Continent as a whole is only as safe as the intelligence agencies of it's weakest link.

Belgium is SO much the weakest link. A nuclear power station worker found dead with his pass missing.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/26/belgian-nuclear-officer-found-dead-pass-stolen/

Apparently a 'common' murder.

[SgtRock]

Of course.

The murder by shooting and the theft of Nuclear Security Guards is a '' common '' occurrence.

As everyone is keen to espouse on these pages, shootings within the EU are a rare occurrence.

Add the 2 together and they must be a rare as rocking horse sh!t.

[Johnpound46]

Turkey (i.e. Erdogan) should shut the <deleted> up and stop supporting IS, buying IS oil and trying to turn Turkey into an Islamic state.

[Johnpound46]

Of course.

The murder by shooting and the theft of Nuclear Security Guards is a '' common '' occurrence.

As everyone is keen to espouse on these pages, shootings within the EU are a rare occurrence.

Add the 2 together and they must be a rare as rocking horse sh!t.

As it turns out, this was not a Nuclear Security Guard. Of course it's bad enough as it is that someone gets shot and killed, but it has nothing to do with the security of a nuclear power plant.

[arjunadawn]

As much as I am not a big fan of Erdogan lets look at the facts

Was he deported? Yes

Did Turkey notify the Belgian mission that he is a suspected ISIS fighter? Yes.

According to the extradition treaty Turkey has with EU, the person can be deported to any EU country of their choosing, so Turkey had to ask the person which country he wanted to go in order to fulfill the legal requirements....

This time Erdogan is right guys.. Its not like Turkey deported this guy for protesting against the Erdogan regime

Turkey does not want to jail any EU citizen after the Midnight Express incident, had this guy been jailed in Turkey, liberals would of shot another version of Midnight Express, depicting this bomber as an innocent journalist.

Nearly all jihadis who try to sneak into the Syria tell the authorities they are journalists when caught.

The left is the biggest disease currently facing Europe, its not Erdogan its not Assad. It is the liberals in Europe, they are the ones that have welcomed these immigrants with open arms. Turkey is not at fault for deporting these guys here, it is tired of liberals too, for every EU citizen that gets jailed in Turkey a hit piece comes out about Turkey.

The enemy of the people are liberals, they are the ones responsible for the deaths. We need Trump guys, and we need him fast.

Agreed! Spot on.

[jaidam]

Of course.

The murder by shooting and the theft of Nuclear Security Guards is a '' common '' occurrence.

As everyone is keen to espouse on these pages, shootings within the EU are a rare occurrence.

Add the 2 together and they must be a rare as rocking horse sh!t.

As it turns out, this was not a Nuclear Security Guard. Of course it's bad enough as it is that someone gets shot and killed, but it has nothing to do with the security of a nuclear power plant.

it turned out on 1st of Jan that NYE had been peaceful in Cologne. That was the official line. Of course now we know different. Same with this nuclear security guard. News reports that i have seen are very conflicted and using common sense alone this murder was 100% related to the islamists. Don't trust MSM. 2 of the nuclear plant workers were also confirmed to have joined isis. Now why they were even employed in the 1st place must be answered now. Edited March 26, 2016 by jaidam

[stevenl]

Of course.

The murder by shooting and the theft of Nuclear Security Guards is a '' common '' occurrence.

As everyone is keen to espouse on these pages, shootings within the EU are a rare occurrence.

Add the 2 together and they must be a rare as rocking horse sh!t.

As it turns out, this was not a Nuclear Security Guard. Of course it's bad enough as it is that someone gets shot and killed, but it has nothing to do with the security of a nuclear power plant.

it turned out on 1st of Jan that NYE had been peaceful in Cologne. That was the official line. Of course now we know different. Same with this nuclear security guard. News reports that i have seen are very conflicted and using common sense alone this murder was 100% related to the islamists. Don't trust MSM. 2 of the nuclear plant workers were also confirmed to have joined isis. Now why they were even employed in the 1st place must be answered now.

"using common sense alone this murder was 100% related to the islamists"

[hgma]

Dutch intelligence has no priority in politics, as the murder of 2 prominent Dutch citizens proofed the AIVD (Dutch intelligence service) had no clue whatsoever beforehand.

Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh

Pim Fortuyn Gunned down by a 'animal rights activist' and Theo van Gogh slaughtered by a muslim fanatic.

Money is the magic word in this saga, and now political priority.

We Dutch are naive to the bone in a fast changing global arena.

[stevenl]

Dutch intelligence has no priority in politics, as the murder of 2 prominent Dutch citizens proofed the AIVD (Dutch intelligence service) had no clue whatsoever beforehand.

Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh

Pim Fortuyn Gunned down by a 'animal rights activist' and Theo van Gogh slaughtered by a muslim fanatic.

Money is the magic word in this saga, and now political priority.

We Dutch are naive to the bone in a fast changing global arena.

.you may be right, but the examples are chosen poorly. Both crimes were committed by lone individuals, not by activist groups.