webfact Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership dealTE HAGUE: -- The ball is in his court after the Netherlands rejected an EU partnership deal with Ukraine.But Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte told reporters little on Thursday about how he will handle the crisis, other than to say that in the days, weeks or even months ahead he will be seeking a solution.For eurosceptics whose grassroots petition forced Wednesday’s referendum, the ‘No’ vote was a source of joy.Far-right politician Geert Wilders hailed it as: ‘The beginning of the end of the EU’.But less than three months before a British referendum on whether to leave the bloc altogether, it has alarm bells ringing in Brussels, with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said to be ‘triste’ – French for ‘sad’.“You asked me how the President feels, I think I can tell you that the President est triste,” European Commission Chief Spokesperson Margaritis Schinas told a regular news briefing.The turnout threshold of 30 percent was only just met. The result is non-binding.But over 60 percent of voters rejected the Ukraine deal in the Netherlands – current holder of the EU’s rotating presidency. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-04-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. The vote can be overridden by the government, it is not binding. Reading between the lines: a no vote for the EU. Just the beginning, waiting for England to make the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCruncher Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. The vote can be overridden by the government, it is not binding. Reading between the lines: a no vote for the EU. Just the beginning, waiting for England to make the vote. May be you missed it, but one is for a country wanting to exit in the EU, the other is for the EU not wanting a country to enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDodd Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Although not binding, this is good news, the people are waking up to this scam. That unelected Bureaucracy in Brussels is a scheme that was planned by Banksters in the '50s, with another Fiat currency to exploit, Central control of the lives of hundreds of millions of people, by the above mentioned minions of the elite, to create an unaccountable Corpocracy and crypto-fascist State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. Couldn't agree more, I just hope the British Government do not revert to some kind of skulduggery and recognise this fact that No means No!!! when the country votes to leave the oppressive EU....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. the problem a NO vote in some European country say YES.... Some European government doesn't respect people wish.. see what happen to France...in 2005, 55% of french voter reject European constitution, 2008 the french government ratified this European constitution without new referendum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. The vote can be overridden by the government, it is not binding. Reading between the lines: a no vote for the EU. Just the beginning, waiting for England to make the vote. May be you missed it, but one is for a country wanting to exit in the EU, the other is for the EU not wanting a country to enter. Like I said , reading between the lines. Didn't miss a thing, probably better informed than you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopar71 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? And only 60% of those voters rejected it. I can see the dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. the problem a NO vote in some European country say YES.... Some European government doesn't respect people wish.. see what happen to France...in 2005, 55% of french voter reject European constitution, 2008 the french government ratified this European constitution without new referendum... It was the same year 63% of the Dutch vote NO. But what can you say about governments, they only like to listen to the people when they get money from them, and even then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 The EU should be a trading agreement. Scrap the rest of the BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? And only 60% of those voters rejected it. I can see the dilemma. So 15% Of the possible voters don't want the UKRAINE in the union. And the rest either want them in or arnt bothered either way. Hmmm. Hardly a definitive stance imo.Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcojco Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. the problem a NO vote in some European country say YES.... Some European government doesn't respect people wish.. see what happen to France...in 2005, 55% of french voter reject European constitution, 2008 the french government ratified this European constitution without new referendum... Totally right. But did you not forget a more recent, more strong NO ...? Like the Greek one .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The vote was for trade interests and agreements with the Ukraine, not for admission to the union, explaining the non-interest. The non voters merely showed they are fed up with the EU dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Really can't see the EU bureaucrats letting an irrelevant thing like the people's opinion getting in the way of their agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. the problem a NO vote in some European country say YES.... Some European government doesn't respect people wish.. see what happen to France...in 2005, 55% of french voter reject European constitution, 2008 the french government ratified this European constitution without new referendum... Same happen in Nederland with that EU Constitution the citizens didn't wanted it as they showed in their referendum, the fascist clique in Brussels just rammed it down the Dutch people's throat. Same is going to happen with this Ukraine bullshit, the fascist clique in Brussels/Strasbourg jus ram it down the Dutch people's throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yawg Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. The vote can be overridden by the government, it is not binding. Reading between the lines: a no vote for the EU. Just the beginning, waiting for England to make the vote. May be you missed it, but one is for a country wanting to exit in the EU, the other is for the EU not wanting a country to enter. Like I said , reading between the lines. Didn't miss a thing, probably better informed than you are. I'm Dutch and voted NO. The first time in decades I got some satisfaction out of voting. But it remains to be seen what the powers that shouldn't be make out of our NO ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The vote was for trade interests and agreements with the Ukraine, not for admission to the union, explaining the non-interest.The non voters merely showed they are fed up with the EU dictatorship. Or that they are perfectly happy with the way life has improved IMEASURABLY since the union was formed. Go and travel see the difference.Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asheron Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The vote was for trade interests and agreements with the Ukraine, not for admission to the union, explaining the non-interest.The non voters merely showed they are fed up with the EU dictatorship. Or that they are perfectly happy with the way life has improved IMEASURABLY since the union was formed. Go and travel see the difference.Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Exactly for who has it been "a paradise" (paraphrasing you here)? Not for any of the rich countries, only the pathetic parasite corrupt nations in the south have got it better as they get shitloads from EU. Sweden is now Swedenistan and soon bankrupt thanks to the EU. Or did you mean something childish like "oh now i don't have to exchange my fiat money to another fiat money"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 30% turn out, would i be wrong in saying the dutch public havntt really taken the issue v seriously? Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app The vote was for trade interests and agreements with the Ukraine, not for admission to the union, explaining the non-interest.The non voters merely showed they are fed up with the EU dictatorship. Or that they are perfectly happy with the way life has improved IMEASURABLY since the union was formed. Go and travel see the difference.Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Go and do some reading. Yeah, people in Holland are perfectly happy. Shows on a daily basis. Go vote VVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. The vote can be overridden by the government, it is not binding. Reading between the lines: a no vote for the EU. Just the beginning, waiting for England to make the vote. Whilst the vote is non-binding I suspect that if the Dutch PM and his ruling party don't respect that vote then at the next general election they will probably be turfed out on their ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalfred Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Dilemma for Dutch PM Rutte after voters reject EU-Ukraine partnership deal Where is the dilemma ? The vote was NO. NO means NO. If anyone has a dilemma it is the trough feeders of the EU as their gravy train comes screeching to a halt. . It never means "no" in EU bureaucratic undemocratic speak! They change a few words then keep having ref ballots until EU federalist state gets the result it desires! Edited April 9, 2016 by kingalfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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