cigar7 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 How come the Pattaya Police don't use drug detection dogs to find illegal drugs? There seems to be lots of illicit drugs available in Pattaya, on the streets, in nightclubs and condos. A quick walkabout through a condo, or standing in one place on beach road/walking street would reveal lots of contraband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Due to forum rules I cannot tell you the most likely reason but if you think long and hard you probably know the answer yourself. And don't start with "another Thai basher". My post is not based on hearsay but actual experience. Edited April 8, 2016 by wump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 You can't bribe a dog to look the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Maybe the dogs would be confused about who did what and when. Edited April 8, 2016 by onemorechang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangsaenguy Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Now this is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnybay Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Plenty of available dogs down my soi, they are always scrapping over something, maybe drugs who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It is expensive to purchase, train and maintain a dog and it's handler The holy grail for dogs and detection has always been a "super dog" that could do both narcotics and drugs, unfortunately due to the different training methods no agency has ever been able to cross train dogs Drug dogs "play" with their handler for a reward for finding drugs and if you have ever played with a dog, you sure as hell don't want a bomb detection dog to "play" at detecting explosives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It is expensive to purchase, train and maintain a dog and it's handler The holy grail for dogs and detection has always been a "super dog" that could do both narcotics and drugs, unfortunately due to the different training methods no agency has ever been able to cross train dogs Drug dogs "play" with their handler for a reward for finding drugs and if you have ever played with a dog, you sure as hell don't want a bomb detection dog to "play" at detecting explosives I thought drugs and narcotics was pretty much the same? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 >>I thought drugs and narcotics was pretty much the same? ? << Dogs can sniff certain drugs ,hash and Cocaine for example but Yaba ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Drug dogs "play" with their handler for a reward for finding drugs and if you have ever played with a dog, you sure as hell don't want a bomb detection dog to "play" at detecting explosives What a great idea, that would make a fantastic present for the Ex and her extended family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Only 1 dog breed would be acceptable for Thai BIB Yes a pointer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 >>I thought drugs and narcotics was pretty much the same? ? << Dogs can sniff certain drugs ,hash and Cocaine for example but Yaba ? Actually the drug dogs will only alert on the drugs or whatever material they are trained on. Whether or not it is yaba (speed) will depend on whether or not the were trained to find it Many countries, like Australia, use them to detect plants or other type of food stuff's in passenger luggage A pointer, like above, is the perfect bomb dog, since it is trained just to signal to the handler that it has detected something, not play with it Dog's also have a high rate of success when trained to detect cancerous tumors in hospital patients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) myself and others I know have witnessed the cops at soi 9 openly supplying and selling drugs to the inmates there over many years. the Thai police are interested in maintaining a monopoly on the drug market, not eliminating it. also they apparently dont have the resources to do things like a quick walk down beach road at night, let alone train dogs and walk through condos but every few years they have a shoot out on the Loas border for the news, everyone escapes unharmed and the Thai police get a big haul of drugs which then mysteriously disappears, the public think they are anti drugs and doing a great job and business continues as usual Edited April 9, 2016 by phycokiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Like anywhere else in the world, they don't really want to find all the drugs. What would be the point of that? It's all a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It is expensive to purchase, train and maintain a dog and it's handler The holy grail for dogs and detection has always been a "super dog" that could do both narcotics and drugs, unfortunately due to the different training methods no agency has ever been able to cross train dogs Drug dogs "play" with their handler for a reward for finding drugs and if you have ever played with a dog, you sure as hell don't want a bomb detection dog to "play" at detecting explosives Same routine for bombs or drugs, the dogs think it's all a game and do it for the same rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 >>I thought drugs and narcotics was pretty much the same? ? << Dogs can sniff certain drugs ,hash and Cocaine for example but Yaba ? Actually the drug dogs will only alert on the drugs or whatever material they are trained on. Whether or not it is yaba (speed) will depend on whether or not the were trained to find it Many countries, like Australia, use them to detect plants or other type of food stuff's in passenger luggage A pointer, like above, is the perfect bomb dog, since it is trained just to signal to the handler that it has detected something, not play with it Dog's also have a high rate of success when trained to detect cancerous tumors in hospital patients What do you mean play with it? Never seen dogs running about tossing bags of ganja up and down, they're trained to indicate, for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 myself and others I know have witnessed the cops at soi 9 openly supplying and selling drugs to the inmates there over many years. the Thai police are interested in maintaining a monopoly on the drug market, not eliminating it. also they apparently dont have the resources to do things like a quick walk down beach road at night, let alone train dogs and walk through condos but every few years they have a shoot out on the Loas border for the news, everyone escapes unharmed and the Thai police get a big haul of drugs which then mysteriously disappears, the public think they are anti drugs and doing a great job and business continues as usual So what did you do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoker58 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Snffer dogs are only useful where the amount of drugs is limited. Take a sniffer dog through Pattaya and it would just get confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Snffer dogs are only useful where the amount of drugs is limited. Take a sniffer dog through Pattaya and it would just get confused.Pattaya seems to have that effect, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 myself and others I know have witnessed the cops at soi 9 openly supplying and selling drugs to the inmates there over many years. the Thai police are interested in maintaining a monopoly on the drug market, not eliminating it. also they apparently dont have the resources to do things like a quick walk down beach road at night, let alone train dogs and walk through condos but every few years they have a shoot out on the Loas border for the news, everyone escapes unharmed and the Thai police get a big haul of drugs which then mysteriously disappears, the public think they are anti drugs and doing a great job and business continues as usual So what did you do about it? I asked for credit but they refused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeba7 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I heard and read years ago there are ways to deter these dogs, like red hot pepper powder which will irritate their sensitive snouts and move on, have no idea if it works or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) I heard and read years ago there are ways to deter these dogs, like red hot pepper powder which will irritate their sensitive snouts and move on, have no idea if it works or not. I don't know either. But what works for sure; odor barrier bags from 3M or other brands. It can be used it to protect food from Bears. Bears have a better nose then dogs. I heard, in some Nordic regions it's mandatory for campers, walkers... to store their food in such bags. Edited April 26, 2016 by alocacoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I heard and read years ago there are ways to deter these dogs, like red hot pepper powder which will irritate their sensitive snouts and move on, have no idea if it works or not. I don't know either. But what works for sure; odor barrier bags from 3M or other brands. It can be used it to protect food from Bears. Bears have a better nose then dogs. I heard, in some Nordic regions it's mandatory for campers, walkers... to store their food in such bags. yes, dogs can smell more then one smell at a time so you cant hide with other smells, but moisture barrier bags will work, if you can find them in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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