Obama warns UK it will be at ‘back of the queue” for US trade if it votes to leave EU

[attento]

The President was promoting his view of American political self-interest. And so he should ! So all nations leaders should !

As for the USA/ EU trade deal, it is not the UK who is holding it up. The French are concerned about the invasion of Hollywood, the Greeks are worried about American erstaz Feta cheese, many countries are concerned about the "liberal" use of antibiotics in American meat production, and so it goes on.

The UK is the USA's largest export market in Europe, being greater then that of France,Spain and Italy combined. Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ? Just maybe, the President believes that with the UK inside the EU, his trade deal stands a better chance of success.

Maybe, American politicians have a different understanding of the word Democracy. That is their right.

But, the UK has it's own values, and they are not consistent with the lack of democracy and the corruption that is evident at the heart of the EU bureaucracy. Nationals from other countries may snigger at this British view, but that is to misunderstand the British sense of fair play. (That is not dead)

Is it really true that the USA administration is so short of competent staff that they can only manage one trade deal at a time. If not so, then why the threat of snubbing the UK for a separate trade deal. That stinks of the worst form of politics, not common sense.

" Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ?"

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. The American president is not threatening to "make life for American exporters difficult" if the UK leaves the EU. He is stating the obvious. IF the UK decides to leave the EU , the trade situation with Europe will become much more difficult.

With respect Sir, the opposite may indeed be the case. There is far more opposition to the trade deal in continental EU, than in the UK. The USA and the UK talk the same language in trade terms and in national economics, The UK and the USA would be far more likely to strike an amicable deal, than that envisaged with the EU. Difficulties usually arise when mere politicking gets in the way of commercial good sense. The Trade deal as it is proposed (by the USA) is totally outside most Europeans concept of "open and fair trade". However, the British and Americans, operating 1 to 1, would be capable of reaching an acceptable deal.

[sirineou]

The President was promoting his view of American political self-interest. And so he should ! So all nations leaders should !

As for the USA/ EU trade deal, it is not the UK who is holding it up. The French are concerned about the invasion of Hollywood, the Greeks are worried about American erstaz Feta cheese, many countries are concerned about the "liberal" use of antibiotics in American meat production, and so it goes on.

The UK is the USA's largest export market in Europe, being greater then that of France,Spain and Italy combined. Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ? Just maybe, the President believes that with the UK inside the EU, his trade deal stands a better chance of success.

Maybe, American politicians have a different understanding of the word Democracy. That is their right.

But, the UK has it's own values, and they are not consistent with the lack of democracy and the corruption that is evident at the heart of the EU bureaucracy. Nationals from other countries may snigger at this British view, but that is to misunderstand the British sense of fair play. (That is not dead)

Is it really true that the USA administration is so short of competent staff that they can only manage one trade deal at a time. If not so, then why the threat of snubbing the UK for a separate trade deal. That stinks of the worst form of politics, not common sense.

" Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ?"

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. The American president is not threatening to "make life for American exporters difficult" if the UK leaves the EU. He is stating the obvious. IF the UK decides to leave the EU , the trade situation with Europe will become much more difficult.

With respect Sir, the opposite may indeed be the case. There is far more opposition to the trade deal in continental EU, than in the UK. The USA and the UK talk the same language in trade terms and in national economics, The UK and the USA would be far more likely to strike an amicable deal, than that envisaged with the EU. Difficulties usually arise when mere politicking gets in the way of commercial good sense. The Trade deal as it is proposed (by the USA) is totally outside most Europeans concept of "open and fair trade". However, the British and Americans, operating 1 to 1, would be capable of reaching an acceptable deal.

I don't disagree with any of that, The merits or negatives of the trade deal are arguable.

but in the context of this thread, which is the departure of the UK and Obama's comment concerning the affects such departure would have on the trade agreement,

I don't see How what he said is wrong.

If I understand this correctly the agreement would be with the EU, if the UK exited the EU, would not be part of the agreement, and would have to negotiate a separate deal, which indeed would put the EU in the back of the Queue or on a different queue.

If this was to happen it would not be something Obama did but what the UK did.

Or perhaps I misunderstand, If so would not be the first time,

[nontabury]

The President was promoting his view of American political self-interest. And so he should ! So all nations leaders should !

As for the USA/ EU trade deal, it is not the UK who is holding it up. The French are concerned about the invasion of Hollywood, the Greeks are worried about American erstaz Feta cheese, many countries are concerned about the "liberal" use of antibiotics in American meat production, and so it goes on.

The UK is the USA's largest export market in Europe, being greater then that of France,Spain and Italy combined. Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ? Just maybe, the President believes that with the UK inside the EU, his trade deal stands a better chance of success.

Maybe, American politicians have a different understanding of the word Democracy. That is their right.

But, the UK has it's own values, and they are not consistent with the lack of democracy and the corruption that is evident at the heart of the EU bureaucracy. Nationals from other countries may snigger at this British view, but that is to misunderstand the British sense of fair play. (That is not dead)

Is it really true that the USA administration is so short of competent staff that they can only manage one trade deal at a time. If not so, then why the threat of snubbing the UK for a separate trade deal. That stinks of the worst form of politics, not common sense.

" Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ?"

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. The American president is not threatening to "make life for American exporters difficult" if the UK leaves the EU. He is stating the obvious. IF the UK decides to leave the EU , the trade situation with Europe will become much more difficult.

With respect Sir, the opposite may indeed be the case. There is far more opposition to the trade deal in continental EU, than in the UK. The USA and the UK talk the same language in trade terms and in national economics, The UK and the USA would be far more likely to strike an amicable deal, than that envisaged with the EU. Difficulties usually arise when mere politicking gets in the way of commercial good sense. The Trade deal as it is proposed (by the USA) is totally outside most Europeans concept of "open and fair trade". However, the British and Americans, operating 1 to 1, would be capable of reaching an acceptable deal.

There is a great deal of opposition to the TTIP in the UK,especially how it could effect the NHS,as it could force the privatization of the NHS. This could lead to the American health care providers gaining control of the NHS and leading to an American health system. However one notably supporter for TTIP is the Secretary of State for Health mr Jeremy Hunt.

[Johnyo]

Brexiters the Spanish people are with you. Nearly one million brits with access to our health system is causing serious issues. Spain needs Thai style policies for all non Europeans. 20,000 EUR seasoned for 12 months and if no health insurance then no care. Come June Spain is with you..we don't want you in the EU anyway

Edited April 24, 2016 by Johnyo

[Ghostnigel]

Slipperylobster...hahaha. you should read these comments from us Brits, and then tell me if Obama's opinions, or yours for that matter, have any bearing on OUR referendum. I think not.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Ghostnigel

[arjunadawn]

Its been said many times Obama is defined by embracing America's enemies and alienating [our] allies. Few better examples exist then Obama employing the entire weight of the US economy to threaten an ally. One can disassemble all they want, but this was a threat... on foreign soil!

Reverse engineering the threat from the premise- 'UK will be at the back of the queue for treaty negotiations with the US' and 'How should the UK vote regarding Brexit?' - it becomes clear that Obama believes the UK would be injured by remaining in the EU.

[SheungWan]

"Back of the queue"?

He was at the back of the queue when they were dishing out brains...<expletive> moron.

It does not exactly require rocket science for presenting the case as Obama did, but he simply skewered the Brexit case and handed their 'alternative' Atlantic head back to them on a platter. He has effectively scuppered the Brexit team as they now have no alternative strategy at all apart from a purely negative one and it is that which is driving our very own Brexiteers round the bend. I watched the whole thing live and even the aspirant hostile questions were easily swatted away.

Edited April 24, 2016 by SheungWan

[Ghostnigel]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

[Ghostnigel]

"Back of the queue"?

He was at the back of the queue when they were dishing out brains...<expletive> moron.

It does not exactly require rocket science for presenting the case as Obama did, but he simply skewered the Brexit case and handed their 'alternative' Atlantic head back to them on a platter. He has effectively scuppered the Brexit team as they now have no alternative strategy at all apart from a purely negative one and it is that which is driving our very own Brexiteers round the bend. I watched the whole thing live and even the aspirant hostile questions were easily swatted away.

We shall see on July 23 eh? The surveys dont mean a lot, but most are giving Brexit the edge. We are Brits, we can see through bullsh@t when its clearly bullsh@t....

[Ghostnigel]

The U.S dictating to others, don't they realise how much thier attitude is resented by the world.

I think we do realize that...but frankly....who cares?

Really...Who cares what people think about us? Do you care what Thai's think about you? A government is not a "person"...but rather is something abstract. It's not a plotting, scheming demon.... Think of a government as a necessary evil, and do not perceive that it represents the will of the people. To say "they" is to say "all the people". There are good and bad people...but government goes outside that circle...and creates legislation and policies that are sometimes unpopular.

Why do you people think it is so important that everybody in the world has to love you? Shouldn't you just go on with your life, and do what makes you happy. Nobody in the USA gives a flying hoot about you either.

stop being small minded.

We don't need you to love us, we just want you to mind your business, we do not need your opinions, it is our vote only. Nothing you or Obama can say will change how we vote. So jog on mate, your country ain't all that anyway.

[attento]

The President was promoting his view of American political self-interest. And so he should ! So all nations leaders should !

As for the USA/ EU trade deal, it is not the UK who is holding it up. The French are concerned about the invasion of Hollywood, the Greeks are worried about American erstaz Feta cheese, many countries are concerned about the "liberal" use of antibiotics in American meat production, and so it goes on.

The UK is the USA's largest export market in Europe, being greater then that of France,Spain and Italy combined. Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ? Just maybe, the President believes that with the UK inside the EU, his trade deal stands a better chance of success.

Maybe, American politicians have a different understanding of the word Democracy. That is their right.

But, the UK has it's own values, and they are not consistent with the lack of democracy and the corruption that is evident at the heart of the EU bureaucracy. Nationals from other countries may snigger at this British view, but that is to misunderstand the British sense of fair play. (That is not dead)

Is it really true that the USA administration is so short of competent staff that they can only manage one trade deal at a time. If not so, then why the threat of snubbing the UK for a separate trade deal. That stinks of the worst form of politics, not common sense.

" Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ?"

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. The American president is not threatening to "make life for American exporters difficult" if the UK leaves the EU. He is stating the obvious. IF the UK decides to leave the EU , the trade situation with Europe will become much more difficult.

With respect Sir, the opposite may indeed be the case. There is far more opposition to the trade deal in continental EU, than in the UK. The USA and the UK talk the same language in trade terms and in national economics, The UK and the USA would be far more likely to strike an amicable deal, than that envisaged with the EU. Difficulties usually arise when mere politicking gets in the way of commercial good sense. The Trade deal as it is proposed (by the USA) is totally outside most Europeans concept of "open and fair trade". However, the British and Americans, operating 1 to 1, would be capable of reaching an acceptable deal.

There is a great deal of opposition to the TTIP in the UK,especially how it could effect the NHS,as it could force the privatization of the NHS. This could lead to the American health care providers gaining control of the NHS and leading to an American health system. However one notably supporter for TTIP is the Secretary of State for Health mr Jeremy Hunt.

There is some opposition to TTIP in UK, but hardly a "great deal". for the simple reason that the terms have not been widely aired. The best chance of making a fair and open Trade deal which is in the best interests of both parties would be between the UK and USA, 1 to 1. A deal arranged by Brussels would (must) ignore the best interests of the UK., in favour of a "least common denominator" type of arrangement. Fine for the USA, but potentially damaging for many European states.

The money transferred to Brussels every year from the UK would certainly help the NHS in the UK.

[attento]

The President was promoting his view of American political self-interest. And so he should ! So all nations leaders should !

As for the USA/ EU trade deal, it is not the UK who is holding it up. The French are concerned about the invasion of Hollywood, the Greeks are worried about American erstaz Feta cheese, many countries are concerned about the "liberal" use of antibiotics in American meat production, and so it goes on.

The UK is the USA's largest export market in Europe, being greater then that of France,Spain and Italy combined. Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ? Just maybe, the President believes that with the UK inside the EU, his trade deal stands a better chance of success.

Maybe, American politicians have a different understanding of the word Democracy. That is their right.

But, the UK has it's own values, and they are not consistent with the lack of democracy and the corruption that is evident at the heart of the EU bureaucracy. Nationals from other countries may snigger at this British view, but that is to misunderstand the British sense of fair play. (That is not dead)

Is it really true that the USA administration is so short of competent staff that they can only manage one trade deal at a time. If not so, then why the threat of snubbing the UK for a separate trade deal. That stinks of the worst form of politics, not common sense.

" Has the President consulted American industry about his idea to make life more difficult for American exporters ?"

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. The American president is not threatening to "make life for American exporters difficult" if the UK leaves the EU. He is stating the obvious. IF the UK decides to leave the EU , the trade situation with Europe will become much more difficult.

With respect Sir, the opposite may indeed be the case. There is far more opposition to the trade deal in continental EU, than in the UK. The USA and the UK talk the same language in trade terms and in national economics, The UK and the USA would be far more likely to strike an amicable deal, than that envisaged with the EU. Difficulties usually arise when mere politicking gets in the way of commercial good sense. The Trade deal as it is proposed (by the USA) is totally outside most Europeans concept of "open and fair trade". However, the British and Americans, operating 1 to 1, would be capable of reaching an acceptable deal.

There is a great deal of opposition to the TTIP in the UK,especially how it could effect the NHS,as it could force the privatization of the NHS. This could lead to the American health care providers gaining control of the NHS and leading to an American health system. However one notably supporter for TTIP is the Secretary of State for Health mr Jeremy Hunt.

The money transferred to Brussels from the UK every year would certainly be used to greater benefit within the NHS.

The bureaucrats in Brussels have little liking for the NHS, most don't understand it ( how could they?), so they wont take any steps to preserve it.

Edited April 24, 2016 by attento

[Sealbash]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

I am neither proponent of the U.K. remaining in the EU, nor exiting the EU. I was simply rebutting the statement that Obama is telling the UK what to do. I do not believe he is. Obama is simply stating that the US will not make a trade deal with the U.K. a priority. What UK citizens choose to do with this information is their choice.

[Thechook]

Americans would never accept being part of an organisation like the EU where they are dictated to by foreigners and having to open their borders to all member states citizens.

Would they tolerate for example an Americas super state with an open border with Mexico and government located somewhere in Canada churning out more legislation and red tape practically every week?

Clearly Obama has joined Cameron's project fear because it somehow suits US interests and he does not care about how remaining in the totally corrupt EU with uncontrolled immigration and all the social problems that will cause the average Brit.

The USA IS an American super state consisting of 50 individual states each with individual freedom to pass laws and generate taxes but with a common currency and free movement of labour. UK is equivalent to California without the sun.

You forgot to add

Governed by Americans for Americans and with the interests of Americans first and foremost

And what country doesn't do this?

Australia

[Credo]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

Obama and the US had nothing to do with you giving the power to the EU. YOU decided to do that. You now want a 'divorce' so to speak and there are consequences with that divorce. That's all. It means those deals with the EU that include Britain will likely have to be renegotiated.

Like any divorce, you will lose some things and you will gain some things. Obama is pointing out one of the things you may lose.

It is an internal matter with external consequences.

.....I would suggest that the British be very careful in accusing Obama of meddling in another countries affairs.

[nontabury]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

I am neither proponent of the U.K. remaining in the EU, nor exiting the EU. I was simply rebutting the statement that Obama is telling the UK what to do. I do not believe he is. Obama is simply stating that the US will not make a trade deal with the U.K. a priority. What UK citizens choose to do with this information is their choice.

You say that at the moment you are sitting on the fence with which way to cast your vote.That's fair enough, but before you do cast your vote can I suggest that you look into the direction that the Brussel Eurocrats intend to frog March us into, if the electorate vote to remain in.

[craigt3365]

Obama should shut up his big mouth; let the Brits decide on their fate. Wonder what would happen if Nigel Farage would run a tirade over anything American - and there is plenty stuff around to entertain an entire planet for at least a generation, Nuff said.

Obama and the official USA need this mess called EU, the ailing Euro, the asylum chancers avalanching Europe as well as rattle the Eastern European border by positioning troops (under the NATO flag, what a joke) close to the Russians - who have done absolutely nothing to trigger off any such one-sided reaction.

The next WW is around the corner if you let those dickheads in Brussels and Washington have it their way. Hence they got almost a heart attack when the Greeks ran their referendum and with the same right the UK citizen must have their say - in two months we'll know more.

You mean like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Foreign_policy

In March 2016, Farage endorsed Donald Trump's presidential campaign, opining that the New York-based businessman would be more "pro-British" than incumbent Barack Obama, saying that Obama "is the most anti-British president America has ever had".^[127] He also compared Trump to Ronald Reagan, saying that "they all called Ronnie Reagan a cretin, but he was a great president, so maybe they are underestimating Trump".^[128]

Understood as Nigel likes Putin:

When asked which leaders he admired, Farage said "As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin.

[metisdead]

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[keemapoot]

For those located in Bangkok and who wish to get an expert viewpoint on this and the US election affects markets and don't mind springing 1400 Baht (for non members) for a lunch & speaker session, this Thursday, there is a luncheon entitled "Predicting Brexit, the next U.S. President, and how markets will be affected".

Guest speakers, Stanford Professor Doug Rivers, Chief Scientist of YouGov, and Stephan Shakespeare, YouGov founder and CEO, who will jointly present on the topic "Predicting Brexit, the next U.S. President, and how markets will be affected".

Partnered with The Times in London and with The Economist and CBS in America, YouGov's polling supplies fresh insights going beyond who's winning. Though the horse-race itself is fascinating enough, YouGov will provide a deeper view of voters that also helps us to understand the changing market conditions that will shape our economic future.

I don't have time to attend, but would like to hear views from anyone who does attend. Just go to the Amcham webpage and you will see the announcement. Luncheon is at the Intercontinental Chidlom.

[nontabury]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

Obama and the US had nothing to do with you giving the power to the EU. YOU decided to do that. You now want a 'divorce' so to speak and there are consequences with that divorce. That's all. It means those deals with the EU that include Britain will likely have to be renegotiated.

Like any divorce, you will lose some things and you will gain some things. Obama is pointing out one of the things you may lose.

It is an internal matter with external consequences.

.....I would suggest that the British be very careful in accusing Obama of meddling in another countries affairs.

Well that's the thing really, the British people din't give up our powers to the EU. They voted in support of a free trading area called the European Economic

Community ( EEC ), unfortunately the people were deceived by politicians who agreed in 1993, without putting it to the people to sign the Maastricht document, therefore creating the EU. The important question now is,if the electorate do vote in June to remain in, what do the Eurocrats in Brussel intend to do in the coming years.

Cameron did attempt and failed in February to obtain a cast iron deal that Britian would not be steamrolled into further unwanted regulations and political integration. So again the big question,where do the Brussel Eurocrats intend to lead the EU.

[craigt3365]

And what country doesn't do this?

Australia

Right....seems to be some discussion going on about this:

http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/2016/03/02/Australias-unbalanced-foreign-policy.aspx

But successive Australian governments have starved our diplomatic service of funds and shrunk our network of foreign missions to the smallest footprint of all G20 nations except Saudi Arabia.

Edited April 25, 2016 by craigt3365

[johnnywishbone]

IMHO, everything Obama touches turns brown and mushy.

Nobel Peace Prize awarded On basis of pigmentation.

The Syrian "Red Line".

Obvious race card player.

Obama, Clinton, and Kerry keep shoving their arrogant noses in other countries business. No one really respects or takes seriously anything that goes in to or comes out of their mouths.

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[tonray]

IMHO, everything Obama touches turns brown and mushy.

Nobel Peace Prize awarded On basis of pigmentation.

The Syrian "Red Line".

Obvious race card player.

Obama, Clinton, and Kerry keep shoving their arrogant noses in other countries business. No one really respects or takes seriously anything that goes in to or comes out of their mouths.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes in contrast to British foreign policy ?.....ha ha. What exactly has the "empire" accomplished since losing it all ? Is Tony Blair being your Middle East envoy for peace the best you have to show ?

Here is the sad fact you will not want to admit. Your government needs the EU markets to keep the economy growing...there is no way out once in. You will hem and haw and demand certain concessions from Brussels but in the end ...NOTHING will change. Face it...because it's coming. Britain is too small to survive on its own as an economic entity in a globalized world. Sorry...that is the fact of the matter. Now enjoy your tea and the taxes you pay to a bunch of curmudgeonly old families who laugh at you as you struggle to make ends meet. House of Lords....what a joke.

Edited April 25, 2016 by tonray

[craigt3365]

IMHO, everything Obama touches turns brown and mushy.

Nobel Peace Prize awarded On basis of pigmentation.

The Syrian "Red Line".

Obvious race card player.

Obama, Clinton, and Kerry keep shoving their arrogant noses in other countries business. No one really respects or takes seriously anything that goes in to or comes out of their mouths.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes in contrast to British foreign policy ?.....ha ha. What exactly has the "empire" accomplished since losing it all ? Is Tony Blair being your Middle East envoy for peace the best you have to show ?

Here is the sad fact you will not want to admit. Your government needs the EU markets to keep the economy growing...there is no way out once in. You will hem and haw and demand certain concessions from Brussels but in the end ...NOTHING will change. Face it...because it's coming. Britain is too small to survive on its own as an economic entity in a globalized world. Sorry...that is the fact of the matter. Now enjoy your tea and the taxes you pay to a bunch of curmudgeonly old families who laugh at you as you struggle to make ends meet. House of Lords....what a joke.

House of Lords is our history, the UK "has" history and is not governed by a bloke who can only get govern if he has a big bank balance, like the Trumps out there....

Ya just had to rub our noses in that, didn't you!

[tonray]

IMHO, everything Obama touches turns brown and mushy.

Nobel Peace Prize awarded On basis of pigmentation.

The Syrian "Red Line".

Obvious race card player.

Obama, Clinton, and Kerry keep shoving their arrogant noses in other countries business. No one really respects or takes seriously anything that goes in to or comes out of their mouths.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes in contrast to British foreign policy ?.....ha ha. What exactly has the "empire" accomplished since losing it all ? Is Tony Blair being your Middle East envoy for peace the best you have to show ?

Here is the sad fact you will not want to admit. Your government needs the EU markets to keep the economy growing...there is no way out once in. You will hem and haw and demand certain concessions from Brussels but in the end ...NOTHING will change. Face it...because it's coming. Britain is too small to survive on its own as an economic entity in a globalized world. Sorry...that is the fact of the matter. Now enjoy your tea and the taxes you pay to a bunch of curmudgeonly old families who laugh at you as you struggle to make ends meet. House of Lords....what a joke.

House of Lords is our history, the UK "has" history and is not governed by a bloke who can only get govern if he has a big bank balance, like the Trumps out there....

First off....Donald Trump has never governed any part of America. Secondly...I just checked...David Cameron has a net worth estimated to be about 50 million US dollars......that's pretty funny in itself.

[Grouse]

For those located in Bangkok and who wish to get an expert viewpoint on this and the US election affects markets and don't mind springing 1400 Baht (for non members) for a lunch & speaker session, this Thursday, there is a luncheon entitled "Predicting Brexit, the next U.S. President, and how markets will be affected".

Guest speakers, Stanford Professor Doug Rivers, Chief Scientist of YouGov, and Stephan Shakespeare, YouGov founder and CEO, who will jointly present on the topic "Predicting Brexit, the next U.S. President, and how markets will be affected".

Partnered with The Times in London and with The Economist and CBS in America, YouGov's polling supplies fresh insights going beyond who's winning. Though the horse-race itself is fascinating enough, YouGov will provide a deeper view of voters that also helps us to understand the changing market conditions that will shape our economic future.

I don't have time to attend, but would like to hear views from anyone who does attend. Just go to the Amcham webpage and you will see the announcement. Luncheon is at the Intercontinental Chidlom.

Thanks! I'll try and make it. Should be good - I'll report back.....

[craigt3365]

In the UK you can get to govern with 10 shillings in the bank...

I do believe Obama wasn't very wealthy when elected. Not poor, but far from wealthy. Though that will change shortly! LOL

[keemapoot]

In the UK you can get to govern with 10 shillings in the bank...

I do believe Obama wasn't very wealthy when elected. Not poor, but far from wealthy. Though that will change shortly! LOL

Yup. Just about time for the gravy train of keynote speeches, board appointments, book deals, secret service entourage for life, and all the other perks, including influence peddling.

[Scott]

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[Ghostnigel]

I do not see this as the US or Obama telling the UK what to do one way or the other. Simply passing on information that a trade deal with the U.K. will not be a priority. What the UK and its citizens do with this information is up to them.

Ok then, role reversal time....how would americans like it if we told you/they it would be in your best interests to give your country over to the Canadians, and that they will make 60% of american law, and tell you what you can and cannot do. And you will have no control of your own borders. Would you vote for that? No way would you/they.

Before you start saying we voted for this in 1975, we didn't. We voted to join the EEC, (European Economic Community), which in turn changed into this monster. Ruled by the biggest crooks on the planet. No thanks.

I am neither proponent of the U.K. remaining in the EU, nor exiting the EU. I was simply rebutting the statement that Obama is telling the UK what to do. I do not believe he is. Obama is simply stating that the US will not make a trade deal with the U.K. a priority. What UK citizens choose to do with this information is their choice.

he made the threat of "get to the back of the queue" reffering to a trade agreement. Today i read that he wants us to back him up in a possible war with Russia...we should say "sorry Barry mate, <expletive> OFF, GET TO THE BACK OF THE QUEUE" what goes around comes around.