dageurreotype Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Human rights and military uniforms don't seem to travel together in harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. When there's no more opposition to the Junta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 "Better understanding."....( there it is) ....their mantra . Even disagreeing with his statement , by a Thai ...is tantamount to a security breach. The lack of freedoms of speech, arrests and detention of citizen , not to mention LM laws that see people rot in jail, is a human rights failure. Then there is the seafood industry. Keep saying we need a better understanding.....that's fine. We better understand its dangerous. We better understand sanctions need imposing. We better understand that down the track a military solution to this may be needed. But mostly we better understand we are dealing with a lying immoral unelected dangerous pack of armed thugs, who have nil respect for their population or the world in general You will fall. It's only a matter of time In my opinion, they have already failed. It is just that the repercussions have yet to happen. It will not be pretty when it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. You think it's bad now, just wait until the inevitable happens. Personally, I think having a rapid exit strategy is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 What truly amazes me is that I read the "Letters to the editor" of a well know English language newspaper. The comments are really negative about the junta and they sign what looks like their real names. Amazing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) "He suspected that the lecturers might be over-worried with the consequences of the enforcement of the laws and orders enacted by the NCPO whereas the public in general were indifferent to the laws or orders." So alleged public indifference {it could just be simple fear} makes everything ok then? No matter what happens, as long as the public are indifferent it's ok? Wow! Edited May 7, 2016 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Being arrested, denied bail, and marched in front of a military court, not for writing a post on facebook, not even for liking a post on facebook, but for having one sent to you, as is happening to the mother of Ja New, the student activist, could be construed as a pretty fundemental breach of human rights. It is possible to argue that Freedom of Speech is not a universal human right as there are limitations particularly when it comes to hate speech and possibly national security issues but the Junta now how taken it to a whole new level (or plumbed a whole new depth) by removing the right to 'Freedom of Unspeech' which is totally indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. You think it's bad now, just wait until the inevitable happens. Personally, I think having a rapid exit strategy is a must. I think when that happens there will be some bitter ( and perhaps bloody) infighting, amongst the ranks of those born to rule. It will probably be behind closed doors. Of course it may well spill over onto the streets, most likely in Bangkok. In the more distant and less "well connected" provinces I suspect it will be a spectator event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 What truly amazes me is that I read the "Letters to the editor" of a well know English language newspaper. The comments are really negative about the junta and they sign what looks like their real names. Amazing!! Not really. Most of those are written by farang. They aren't about to 'have at us' yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 What amazes me more is thinking how they can say it and keep a straight face at the same time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. Now if only an international expert lawyer in human rights would come and defend her then see how the junta cliam they always respect human rights... And the junta fan boys are yet again quiet when they are shown that they are WRONG......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Quite a few dead people might disagree, if they could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. Yes, and no need to walk on eggs here and worry about repeating what she said because apparently she said absolutely nothing. Zilch...Zero....not one word. She has actually been arrested for not saying anything at all in a private correspondence with another person. Doesn't exactly inspire respect or belief in the government spokesman's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 When you can just make the rules up with impunity as you go along, you can put any clothes that you want on Collective Punishment. Ugh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macksview Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 the world of 1984 run by morons. I guess we are fortunate that they are, at least, morons. morons i can handle, powerfull morons start to worry me. one fear i have is, there maybe one intelligent one, he just lets the morons speak to the media. un-pucking believeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 the world of 1984 run by morons. I guess we are fortunate that they are, at least, morons. morons i can handle, powerfull morons start to worry me. one fear i have is, there maybe one intelligent one, he just lets the morons speak to the media. un-pucking believeable. What about powerful ones with tanks and guns? and a history of not being able to deal with a disenting public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end. Yes, and no need to walk on eggs here and worry about repeating what she said because apparently she said absolutely nothing. Zilch...Zero....not one word. She has actually been arrested for not saying anything at all in a private correspondence with another person. Doesn't exactly inspire respect or belief in the government spokesman's comments. Please forgive my trespass if I'm wrong, but why was this not news here on TVF? Did I miss the story? or was it just missed ? or was it deliberately left out and for what reason? Considering it is a relevant news issue it would be nice to know from TVF why this is still not a featured article here? BTW this is not a shot at TVF simply a question. hope I don't get banned for a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macksview Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 the world of 1984 run by morons. I guess we are fortunate that they are, at least, morons. morons i can handle, powerfull morons start to worry me. one fear i have is, there maybe one intelligent one, he just lets the morons speak to the media. un-pucking believeable. What about powerful ones with tanks and guns? and a history of not being able to deal with a disenting public? thats our boys, guns tanks etc, they do scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Why would any person/ company even contemplate investing here under the current circumstances,dangerous times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 His words are not in line with the actions of the Junta. Maybe this bloke is unaware of them ? Can't be, he is lying through his teeth. I'm really not sure about that. To be a liar one has to be aware one is lying. Now these people live in a nice cosy bubble where they spend their days praising and passing round medals and decorations to one another, so it is possible they have come to believe their own claptrap. Worrying indeed, if that is the case... Don't underestimate them, they know full well what they are doing and why they are doing it. The goal is quite clear, continued influence in the way Thailand is run, without the need to actually receive a mandate. Key to this goal is acceptance of the draft charter on August 7. That acceptance at the very least will (in their eyes) legitimize the draft and the 'democracy' it contains. Any dissent is currently handled with a heavy hand, with only one goal, dissuade others from trying the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 "Better understanding."....( there it is) ....their mantra . Even disagreeing with his statement , by a Thai ...is tantamount to a security breach. The lack of freedoms of speech, arrests and detention of citizen , not to mention LM laws that see people rot in jail, is a human rights failure. Then there is the seafood industry. Keep saying we need a better understanding.....that's fine. We better understand its dangerous. We better understand sanctions need imposing. We better understand that down the track a military solution to this may be needed. But mostly we better understand we are dealing with a lying immoral unelected dangerous pack of armed thugs, who have nil respect for their population or the world in general You will fall. It's only a matter of time In my opinion, they have already failed. It is just that the repercussions have yet to happen. It will not be pretty when it does. Fall ...not fail.... But I agree with your observations and prediction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macksview Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 well said sjaak237, they are not all morons, they are very dangerous. i am dreading the reporting of the first student matyr's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Obviously, the spokesperson has no clue as to what human rights are. Must have a Thai education. This gentleman spent a part of his education in Australia at officer training, this is one reason why he speaks reasonable English. I am sure he has an understanding of human rights as it is perceived by other countries. His personal opinions would be interesting to hear. I think he would be great as a stand up comedian as he can deliver any line with a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Only criminal said their Human right are not respect Majority of Thai are not care with them. Edited May 7, 2016 by than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How timely. Ja New's mother's just been arrested and detained for LM. Where will it all end.Yes, and no need to walk on eggs here and worry about repeating what she said because apparently she said absolutely nothing. Zilch...Zero....not one word. She has actually been arrested for not saying anything at all in a private correspondence with another person.Doesn't exactly inspire respect or belief in the government spokesman's comments. Please forgive my trespass if I'm wrong, but why was this not news here on TVF? Did I miss the story? or was it just missed ? or was it deliberately left out and for what reason?Considering it is a relevant news issue it would be nice to know from TVF why this is still not a featured article here? BTW this is not a shot at TVF simply a question. hope I don't get banned for a few days There was a thread started early this morning. It was quickly taken down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Why would any person/ company even contemplate investing here under the current circumstances,dangerous times? I dont think they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Only criminal said their Human right are not respect Majority of Thai are not care with them. WRONG... not only "criminals" claim their human rights have been violated. And as far as the "Majority of Thai are not care with them" back that statement up with facts please, reckon you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 What amazes me more is thinking how they can say it and keep a straight face at the same time.. keep a straight face being off-the-charts-stupid helps them a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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