webfact Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Seven people killed, 24 injured when double decker bus crashes in PhetchaburiImage: Daily NewsPHETCHABURI:-- Seven people have been killed and 24 injured when a double decker VIP bus crashed in Phetchaburi province in the early hours of Monday morning.The bus had left Chumporn at 9:30pm and had been travelling to Bangkok.Reports in Thai media claimed that the driver had fallen asleep at the wheel when the bus was travelling at high speed.The injured were taken to Petcharat and Phra Chom Khao hospitals in Muang district.More info coming soon….Source: Daily News / Manager Online-- 2016-05-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Seven killed in bus crash in PhetchaburiPHETCHABURI:-- Seven passengers were killed and 20 others injured when the double-deck bus they travelled in rammed a roadside power post and overturned on Phetkasem highway in Muang district of Phetchaburi before dawn today. The incident happened at 3 am Monday morning.The bus belongs to Choke-anand Tour. It was taking about 40 passengers from Chumphon to Bangkok.Highway police said the incident happened while it was raining.The bus driver might not be accustomed to the highway which is slippery when there was rain.The bus might approach a slippery curve at high speed, skidding off the highway, and ramming at a power pole, police said.Six died on the spot and another died at Phrachomklao hospital in Phetchaburi after 20 others were admitted.Rescue team found a survivor trapped under the overturned bus when they pulled the bus back out of the pole.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/164250 -- Thai PBS 2016-05-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Again the slaughter will never cease ! surely any Government with a bit of power can do something about this hideous situation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Think they are going to have a co driver with a stick to keep hitting the driver on the head every few minutes to make sure he's awake. but the co driver could also fall asleep.! Falling asleep,and dodgy brakes seem to be the major cause of bus accidents, R.I.P. the dead, regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 And again, blame it on the rain. Yes, it is raining for the first time in history, so the drivers are not used to wet and possibly slippery roads. Good grief! Get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 But they are proud of, fixing the lottery price, and removing deck chairs, Human life means nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The bus looks like one of those cheap Thai made death traps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 In the UK there are measurable standards for the aggregate used on the roads. Measurements for wear, polishability, smoothness / roughness etc are all taken before an aggregate is accepted for use on UK's highways. This allows for maximum longevity and better grip on the roads in varying conditions. The UK's roads are far from perfect (a debate for another time), but I'd hazard a guess that the higher quality of grip prevents numbers accidents. In Thailand I suspect they use 'any aggregate' which polishes easily and after rain these road surfaces become slick, particularly when it rains after a lengthy dry spell. Anyone with half a brain knows this and adjusts their driving. Those driving public transport seem to be unaware of this. Perhaps the culture of using the guys who are too uneducated or dumb to carry out any other work and have them drive heavy vehicles, trucks, lorries, Busses and Mini-Vans is simply wrong. These guys need specific education... I see a 'clamp down coming'... Driver education Driver fatigue Poor road conditions (slippy surfaces) Poor road marking Poor vehicle maintenance (breaks and tyres) These are issues readily addressed in developed nations, addressing these issue here would potentially save 1000's of lives per year... IF only those in positions of decision making power even cared about this enough to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 came back from Pattaya on the bus last friday, speed alarm going off constantly (sat behind driver) what pissed me off was a green and white tourist bus who flew past us and kept on slowing down, like playing a cat and mouse game, i bet we overtook him about six times only for him to go hurtling past again.a total nob end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk9 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 In the UK there are measurable standards for the aggregate used on the roads. Measurements for wear, polishability, smoothness / roughness etc are all taken before an aggregate is accepted for use on UK's highways. This allows for maximum longevity and better grip on the roads in varying conditions. The UK's roads are far from perfect (a debate for another time), but I'd hazard a guess that the higher quality of grip prevents numbers accidents. In Thailand I suspect they use 'any aggregate' which polishes easily and after rain these road surfaces become slick, particularly when it rains after a lengthy dry spell. Anyone with half a brain knows this and adjusts their driving. Those driving public transport seem to be unaware of this. Perhaps the culture of using the guys who are too uneducated or dumb to carry out any other work and have them drive heavy vehicles, trucks, lorries, Busses and Mini-Vans is simply wrong. These guys need specific education... I see a 'clamp down coming'... Driver education Driver fatigue Poor road conditions (slippy surfaces) Poor road marking Poor vehicle maintenance (breaks and tyres) These are issues readily addressed in developed nations, addressing these issue here would potentially save 1000's of lives per year... IF only those in positions of decision making power even cared about this enough to think about it. Here's a simple answer to your entire post: They simply don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) In the UK there are measurable standards for the aggregate used on the roads. Measurements for wear, polishability, smoothness / roughness etc are all taken before an aggregate is accepted for use on UK's highways. This allows for maximum longevity and better grip on the roads in varying conditions. The UK's roads are far from perfect (a debate for another time), but I'd hazard a guess that the higher quality of grip prevents numbers accidents. In Thailand I suspect they use 'any aggregate' which polishes easily and after rain these road surfaces become slick, particularly when it rains after a lengthy dry spell. Anyone with half a brain knows this and adjusts their driving. Those driving public transport seem to be unaware of this. Perhaps the culture of using the guys who are too uneducated or dumb to carry out any other work and have them drive heavy vehicles, trucks, lorries, Busses and Mini-Vans is simply wrong. These guys need specific education... I see a 'clamp down coming'... Driver education Driver fatigue Poor road conditions (slippy surfaces) Poor road marking Poor vehicle maintenance (breaks and tyres) These are issues readily addressed in developed nations, addressing these issue here would potentially save 1000's of lives per year... IF only those in positions of decision making power even cared about this enough to think about it. Theres less aggregate available lately, on enquiring it seems the quarries were selling the explosives off to any Tom Dick or Harry so the army stepped in and limited the amount they could have. One local owner of two quarries here had to shut one down as he didnt have enough explosive and the second one has lorries queuing up to get the aggregate. At least the large compensation from the bus co. will help the families out eh???? oh sorry i forgot "were in Thailand" Edited May 23, 2016 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Where are all the "I don't want Thailand to become a nanny-state"- guys now? No one wants a "nanny"- state...but a bunch of life- saving regulations (if enforced) don't equal nanny- state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmacee Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If they had a half decent railway service down the East coast it would take some of this traffic off the road .. Same from BKK all the way to Ubon .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Many drivers fell asleep last week, is the stock of yaba finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnybay Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 80 people killed on Thailand's road every day on average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467848 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 No doubt some Govt. person will give this some lip service about clampdown on this or that, utter verbiage all the time. If nothing is enforced what is the point? All commercial vehicles should be fitted with a tachograph, and if travelling for 8 hours or longer then a second driver should be in the vehicle. Given how little these drivers are paid, it would hardly cost the operators a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie61 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Since these were VIP's sitting in a VIP bus, I suppose they will be given VIP treatment in hospital, and a VIP day in court suing the VIP bus company. Lets see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiduncankk Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The bus looks like one of those cheap Thai made death traps! Yes, I offer wonder why some of these death traps are labelled as V.I.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The bus looks like one of those cheap Thai made death traps! Yes, I offer wonder why some of these death traps are labelled as V.I.P. ...because they were built by Very Irresponsible Plonkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 And again, blame it on the rain. Yes, it is raining for the first time in history, so the drivers are not used to wet and possibly slippery roads. Good grief! Get a life! So many times, when I encounter Thais at work, I think, "Is this the first time you've done this?" I cannot imagine that a driver would know to accommodate road conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The Thai government is powerless, unless you dislike on F.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 came back from Pattaya on the bus last friday, speed alarm going off constantly (sat behind driver) what pissed me off was a green and white tourist bus who flew past us and kept on slowing down, like playing a cat and mouse game, i bet we overtook him about six times only for him to go hurtling past again.a total nob end. That's one of the times it gets really dangerous, when two dicks are measuring their related anatomies that gives them their genetic classification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Christ almighty roll on tuesday R I P to all those souls who have departed today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Again the only winners are the WATs and the Funeral services, RIP to the deceased and I hope the injured get better. As fior the driver and the BUS company puill their licences for at least 6 months and prosecute the driver for death of the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobobirdiebuddy Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It will never end. There is no hope for anything to change - there is no will to change, the government can't or won't enforce the existing laws and employers will keep hiring ill trained drivers for, as we all know, it's all about money and the hell with the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuk23 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The government will do nothing because they don't give a <deleted> they never did they never will. End of story... NEXT !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Since these were VIP's sitting in a VIP bus, I suppose they will be given VIP treatment in hospital, and a VIP day in court suing the VIP bus company. Lets see... they don't have the slightest idea what the stupid expression VIP means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 80 people killed on Thailand's road every day on averageYour source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 How difficult is it in today's government to pass a law where a second driver is mandatory on all buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a10ams Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The people who make the laws, rules and regulations don't travel on these buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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