kannot Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Water has been erratic around here for sometime due to the drought, I have my own supply but plan to expand my trees somewhat. The village water ran out about 5 days ago now, it comes from a crappy pond about 800 metres away is unfiltered and anything can come down the pipe its pretty awful. About 6 months ago not more than 300 metres from where I live they built a big dam, Makros going day and night, good I thought they are actually doing something to plan for next year. After about 3 weeks of makros digging they finally stopped. I went down to have a look, it was poorly done but before I knew it 1 week later they started again??? demolished the front "dam" part and started extending it to twice the size............wow i thought they really are planning ahead now. I called the Wife today and asked her to ask the head of village is that new dam and reservoir going to be for our village............headman sort of laughed in an uncomfortable way.............YES.............it "was" Seems they got 2.4 million baht to build the thing, no one surveyed the ground which here is VERY rocky and after blowing all the 2.4 million laying the new pipes from the dam have declared it unusable as too many rocks in there to do it properly so there it sits empty and useless Apparently a lot of corruption has gone on in its construction Ill get a photo tomorrow. I suggested we call the corruption hotline but the Wife says they will say Farang make trouble............Thailand runs on FEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Have your wife call if she is not farang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Mango Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Call and call now ! Action on this blatent misuse of public money ! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benalibina Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 How much you think the kickback was which the village headman received from the constructioncompany ? This ofcourse if he did not own said company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Construction and corruption.... the same concept..look at the many projects that after going on....stopped.. out of money? Slush fund gone.. interesting to see this at universities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Dont worry I full intend to get this reported and then ask for follow ups Tried uploading photos but NOTE TO MODS uploader does not work at the moment?? Edited May 31, 2016 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 How much you think the kickback was which the village headman received from the constructioncompany ? This ofcourse if he did not own said company. I dont think ( but dont know for sure) this is the case, but i do know the surveying co. and the construction Co. are one and the same...... so who approved this location? 2.4 million down the pan and no investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Corruption? I can top that... Farlangs do it better LOL Early estimates are that the rate manipulation scandal cost US states, counties, and local governments at least $6 billion in fraudulent interest payments, above $4 billion that state and local governments have already had to spend to unwind their positions exposed to rate manipulation.[53]An increasingly smaller set of banks are participating in setting the Libor, calling into question its future as a benchmark standard, but without any viable alternative to replace it.[54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal And... The monetary losses caused by manipulation of the forex market has been estimated to represent $11.5 billions-a-year for Britain’s 20.7 million pension holders alone (£7.5B/year).[15][not in citation given]The manipulations affected customers all around the world, for over a decade. The manipulations' overall estimated cost is not yet fully known. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forex_scandal Corruption, LOL "Yanks and Limeys wrote the book." I could go on. Call up and report them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 And least we forget... Please stop bashing poor Thai people... Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 And least we forget... Please stop bashing poor Thai people... Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal. and wt....f has that got to do with a dam that was constructed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 And least we forget... Please stop bashing poor Thai people... Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal. and wt....f has that got to do with a dam that was constructed? Nothing but it has everything to do with accusing Thais of being so corrupt. What are we talking about $50,000 dollars in question. That's wt....f. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 And least we forget... Please stop bashing poor Thai people... Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal. and wt....f has that got to do with a dam that was constructed? Nothing but it has everything to do with accusing Thais of being so corrupt. What are we talking about $50,000 dollars in question. That's wt....f. wow so anywhere thats more corrupt must be mentioned, Ill bear it in mind for all future answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeab1980 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 What is village name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 And least we forget... Please stop bashing poor Thai people... Most people think that the big bank bailout was the $700 billion that the treasury department used to save the banks during the financial crash in September of 2008. But this is a long way from the truth because the bailout is still ongoing. The Special Inspector General for TARP summary of the bailout says that the total commitment of government is $16.8 trillion dollars with the $4.6 trillion already paid out. Yes, it was trillions not billions and the banks are now larger and still too big to fail. But it isn’t just the government bailout money that tells the story of the bailout. This is a story about lies, cheating, and a multi-faceted corruption which was often criminal. and wt....f has that got to do with a dam that was constructed? Nothing but it has everything to do with accusing Thais of being so corrupt. What are we talking about $50,000 dollars in question. That's wt....f. wow so anywhere thats more corrupt must be mentioned, Ill bear it in mind for all future answers. Indeed. See that you do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 and wt....f has that got to do with a dam that was constructed? Nothing but it has everything to do with accusing Thais of being so corrupt. What are we talking about $50,000 dollars in question. That's wt....f. wow so anywhere thats more corrupt must be mentioned, Ill bear it in mind for all future answers. Indeed. See that you do... Hope you are taking the pish........ I see you already replied to the corruption thread in the Home Country forum otherwise I was going to suggest maybe you miss-posted in error......... Many of us have "marvelled" at kannot's travails of village life especially recently regarding the water issue. This is just a further "episode"....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Well both topics were about corruption just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatong Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is the OP peed off due to the fact that his "expert" civil engineering skills were not employed ? I wonder what his "qualifications" are ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Is the OP peed off due to the fact that his "expert" civil engineering skills were not employed ? I wonder what his "qualifications" are ? u obviously have more time than sense, a 3 year old could have built it better, pipes cockeyed taps cockeyed concrete laid with bare hands by the look of it................doesnt take much engineering skills to notice that Edited June 1, 2016 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is the OP peed off due to the fact that his "expert" civil engineering skills were not employed ? I wonder what his "qualifications" are ? Well the title of the thread is Water and Corruption. I focused on the Corruption accusation. It's everywhere but it's just so massive in the US, I'm American, as I illustrated. In addition I come from a family of builders. Mr Father and Grand father were builders. As a young man we did custom beach front homes to tract developments, to later "high rise" in NYC as well as off grid rural projects. I later went on to practice medicine. Some design flaws are obvious from the pictures of the dam. Undersized intake feed, undersized culverts, (maybe just add one more) insufficient bank reinforcement etc. Just from what I could see. Without knowing all the details, I think the problem could be easily corrected by laying up some reservoir liner on the banks. Then covering it with "36" & better" rip rap stone on both sides. PVC is cheap just put in a bigger pipe starting at a well designed feed basin that can easily be cleaned. And pray for rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Is the OP peed off due to the fact that his "expert" civil engineering skills were not employed ? I wonder what his "qualifications" are ? Well the title of the thread is Water and Corruption. I focused on the Corruption accusation. It's everywhere but it's just so massive in the US, I'm American, as I illustrated. In addition I come from a family of builders. Mr Father and Grand father were builders. As a young man we did custom beach front homes to tract developments, to later "high rise" in NYC as well as off grid rural projects. I later went on to practice medicine. Some design flaws are obvious from the pictures of the dam. Undersized intake feed, undersized culverts, (maybe just add one more) insufficient bank reinforcement etc. Just from what I could see. Without knowing all the details, I think the problem could be easily corrected by laying up some reservoir liner on the banks. Then covering it with "36" & better" rip rap stone on both sides. PVC is cheap just put in a bigger pipe starting at a well designed feed basin that can easily be cleaned. And pray for rain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeab1980 Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can someone tell what village this is please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyg Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can someone tell what village this is please Sorry that's Top Secret. On a need to know basis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Typical, they get money from the Thai government BKK and then they blow it all on corruption and blame all their troubles later of course on the government. Not the local leaders of course. Seems like a good plan to keep the local populace unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Not exactly corruption but our village is down to its last drop of water However the pipe to our house is spraying water high into the air (when there is sufficient pressure) and has been for 3 months despite repeated requests to the muppets in charge the leak has not been repaired. Basically they are too damn idle and tight to want to repair it, my Mrs says they are hoping we do it in the end The woman who collected the money (headman/water guys wife) yesterday was taken to shown the leak she grunted like a pig and that was it. Like i said their arrogance is only matched by their ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can someone tell what village this is please stop stalking and grow up, no ones going to tell you anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Not exactly corruption but our village is down to its last drop of water However the pipe to our house is spraying water high into the air (when there is sufficient pressure) and has been for 3 months despite repeated requests to the muppets in charge the leak has not been repaired. Basically they are too damn idle and tight to want to repair it, my Mrs says they are hoping we do it in the end The woman who collected the money (headman/water guys wife) yesterday was taken to shown the leak she grunted like a pig and that was it. Like i said their arrogance is only matched by their ignorance Dont worry the minute you start to fix it either someone will lose face and appear to fix it or someone will moan like hell its "not your job" etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can someone tell what village this is please Some members don't want to give out their personal details, including home village. Please respect this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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