3BB 50/10 VDSL Review / Speedtests

[muratremix]

I just got 3BB 50/10 VDSL today. I'll cancel my True online 30/3 tomorrow.

I kept my expectations too high, and I was kind of disappointed at first. But hey, today is Sunday and it is Internet is slow day in Thailand.

I get 55/11 mbit in thailand speedtest, and my line capable of providing 100mbit / 40mbit due to short distance to fiber box.

Download speed and Speedtests without VPN is kind of disappointing. I'll remake those tests tomorrow (Monday).

However, with openvpn enabled (Singapore server), speeds are much better.

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
--2016-06-19 16:25:24-- http://speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
Resolving speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com)... 128.199.90.252, 2400:6180:0:d0::31:6001
Connecting to speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com)|128.199.90.252|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [text/plain]
Saving to: '/dev/null'

100%[===================================================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 2.30MB/s in 42s

2016-06-19 16:26:06 (2.37 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

Single connection download speed to singapore (via singapore vpn) is 2.37 Mbyte/sec which is 19Mbit/s (On Sunday)

Downloading 4 files from my server in France (https links) with 1 connection each (in total 4 connections)

More tests are coming.

[muratremix]

I just disconnected from VPN for regular tests.

Singapore server upload test 75MB.

Photo from my router (Orange is download of 75Mb random file, which is crazy fast, blue is upload speed)

[mtls2005]

What make/model router? (Huawei HG610? TP Link?)

How easy is it to use?

Can it be put in Bridge mode?

Is the WiFI any good?

Are the ethernet ports gigabit?

[muratremix]

I'm testing digitalocean 100Mb test files for non-cheating speed test results, but other than Singapore destination, results are bad. Download speed is throttled to 250kb/s - 300kb/s

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
--2016-06-19 16:47:34-- http://speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
Resolving speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com)... 104.236.186.68, 2604:a880:1:20::19:8001
Connecting to speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sfo1.digitalocean.com)|104.236.186.68|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [text/plain]
Saving to: '/dev/null'

27% [=======================================> ] 28,784,152 222KB/s eta 4m 44s ^C

I cancelled download at 27%.

Testmy.net frankfurt, Germany server (DE) 25Mbyte

[muratremix]

What make/model router? (Huawei HG610? TP Link?)

How easy is it to use?

Can it be put in Bridge mode?

Is the WiFI any good?

Are the ethernet ports gigabit?

• HG630 V2 Home Gateway

It is huawei.

I didn't try bridge mode. I use static IP -> DMZ to second router to avoid DoubleNAT issue. It works pretty well for me.

I didn't try wireless as it is N300 only (2.4 ghz) and I have Asus AC-56U which is AC1200 router with built-in VPN client.

Ports are 10/100 mbit.

It has usb and media share via ftp / samba.

[PoorSucker]

As a comparison I just got 3BB 100/10 fiber.

[muratremix]

A typical speedtest cheating is like this:

I get 300kb/s by downloading from my server at online.net (same datacenter) but when you do speedtest, because they have a whitelist of IPs for not-throttling, you get faster speeds.

Here is real speed:

ray.x264.mkv

Resolving neyi.me (neyi.me)... 62.210.8x.xx6
Connecting to neyi.me (neyi.me)|62.210.8x.xx6|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 10561826534 (9.8G) [video/x-matroska]
Saving to: '/dev/null'

0% [ ] 12,820,480 235KB/s eta 11h 45m^C

200-300 kb/s

[PoorSucker]

Testmy.net frankfurt, Germany server (DE) 25Mbyte

[muratremix]

As a comparison I just got 3BB 100/10 fiber.

Check my previous message regarding speedtest cheating (by ISP of course)

I get maxed out on 50/10 vdsl aswell. But I get 10/8 mbit on singtel server at singapore. This one is TELIN (SG)

[PoorSucker]

Singapore 25 MByte

[muratremix]

I tried several 100M test files, by downloading them to my NAS, connected to router(s) with gigabit ethernet cable.

My speed is throttled to 2 - 2.2 Mbyte/sec (Gigavest, Oneasiahost, Digitalocean).

If I download file with 5 connections (download accelerator) I get 5.6Mbyte/sec which is pretty impressive, but only for Singapore location.

Web browsing etc is pretty fast, thanks to direct connection (unlike True Online, which puts you behind transparent proxy).

[PoorSucker]

Singapore 200 Mbyte

[muratremix]

More 100Mb download tests

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/nul http://lg-sg.qhoster.com/100MB.test
--2016-06-19 17:15:48-- http://lg-sg.qhoster.com/100MB.test
Resolving lg-sg.qhoster.com (lg-sg.qhoster.com)... 103.193.4.60
Connecting to lg-sg.qhoster.com (lg-sg.qhoster.com)|103.193.4.60|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: '/dev/nul'

28% [=========================================> ] 28,648,928 1.01MB/s eta 71s ^C (Not impressive)

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/null http://kvm1mys.gigavest.com/lg/100MB.test (MALAYSIA)
--2016-06-19 17:17:10-- http://kvm1mys.gigavest.com/lg/100MB.test
Resolving kvm1mys.gigavest.com (kvm1mys.gigavest.com)... 103.251.200.54
Connecting to kvm1mys.gigavest.com (kvm1mys.gigavest.com)|103.251.200.54|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 100000000 (95M) [text/plain]
Saving to: '/dev/null'

100%[===================================================================================================================================================>] 100,000,000 2.17MB/s in 52s

2016-06-19 17:18:02 (1.85 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/null http://looking.sg.safehousecloud.com/100MB.test
--2016-06-19 17:18:32-- http://looking.sg.safehousecloud.com/100MB.test
Resolving looking.sg.safehousecloud.com (looking.sg.safehousecloud.com)... 103.206.98.47
Connecting to looking.sg.safehousecloud.com (looking.sg.safehousecloud.com)|103.206.98.47|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 100000000 (95M)
Saving to: '/dev/null'

100%[===================================================================================================================================================>] 100,000,000 2.15MB/s in 49s

2016-06-19 17:19:20 (1.96 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [100000000/100000000]

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$

It seems, some SG locations are throttled to 1MB/s and others to 2MB/s for single connections.

[muratremix]

Testmy.net 100m file sg server

[muratremix]

Openvpn to Digitalocean Singapore server (private VPS - VPN)

Downloading 100Mb test files from other Singapore servers:

Via Port 443, TCP - 1.4 Mbyte/sec (slower than UDP)

Via Port 1194, UDP - 2.6 Mbyte/sec

[muratremix]

I just put huawei vdsl modem to Bridge mode and used my Asus AC-56R to connect via PPPoE with username/password.

It works flawlessly (for the last 60 seconds or so)

[muratremix]

I get max speed from Digitalocean Singapore at this time (Sunday 21:50)

[root@AS-202TE-5C97 .@root]$ wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
--2016-06-19 21:52:04-- http://speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com/100mb.test
Resolving speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com)... 128.199.90.252, 2400:6180:0:d0::31:6001
Connecting to speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com (speedtest-sgp1.digitalocean.com)|128.199.90.252|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [text/plain]
Saving to: '/dev/null'

100%[===================================================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 5.61MB/s in 17s

2016-06-19 21:52:21 (5.98 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

My download speed from France also improved from 200 kb/s to 500kb/s

[muratremix]

Downloading one file from my dedicated server at France (Online.net) via Singapore proxy (at Digitalocean SG location) using 10 connections.

Downloading 6.4 Mbyte/sec at steady speed.

[Saraphee]

Computer ignoramus questions please.

I have the same 50/10 vdsl from 3BB and have the same slow international speeds.I'm also using the same Huawei router/modem.

I still have a D-Link DSL-2877AL piece of kit. Could I do the same as Muratremix tp improve speeds?

If so - what do I do? How do it do it? Do I need any extra cables or anything.

Should you be kind enough to respond please do so in the simplest of terms, It's best to regard me as knowing no technical terms whatsoever.

e.g. I still don't really know what bridging means although since reading this thread I've read several googled articles!

[muratremix]

Computer ignoramus questions please.

I have the same 50/10 vdsl from 3BB and have the same slow international speeds.I'm also using the same Huawei router/modem.

I still have a D-Link DSL-2877AL piece of kit. Could I do the same as Muratremix tp improve speeds?

If so - what do I do? How do it do it? Do I need any extra cables or anything.

Should you be kind enough to respond please do so in the simplest of terms, It's best to regard me as knowing no technical terms whatsoever.

e.g. I still don't really know what bridging means although since reading this thread I've read several googled articles!

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

[Saraphee]

Thanks Muratremix,

I am connected by ethernet to the PC. Incidentally I find the Huawei WiFi to be very weak.

It's one of the reasons I hope to be able to "bridge" with my D-Link as that has great wifi connections on both 2.4 & 5 ghz

I'd welcome any info that will help me so yes please to screenshots.

[Pib]

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

From review of the digitalocean website, it appears to setup your cloud server/proxy it's all Linux based which I know close to zero about since I only use Windows other than a few weeks of playing with Linux Mint last year. Is there an easy way for us Windows folks to use digitalocean without needing to learn how to use Linux?

Edited June 20, 2016 by Pib

[muratremix]

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

From review of the digitalocean website, it appears to setup your cloud server/proxy it's all Linux based which I know close to zero about since I only use Windows other than a few weeks of playing with Linux Mint last year. Is there an easy way for us Windows folks to use digitalocean without needing to learn how to use Linux?

Unfortunately there is not.

However there are guides how to do it. I can also help fellow Thaivisa members for free (i.e install vpn / proxy for you).

Speed will be better than public vpn and when you're not using vpn, you can still use proxy to speed-up your browsing or downloading.

[muratremix]

Here is a mini guide to enable bridging mode of 3bb VDSL modem and an example pppoe setup in AsusWRT (Asus AC-** models and Asus RT-N** models)

Login to 3BB modem. http://192.168.1.1

user: admin

pass: last 4 digit of MAC address in lowercase (not UPPERCASE)

validate code: click to get stupid Captcha IMAGE.

Click to Internet on top. Click Edit highlighted in Blue.

Edit as shown below.

Make sure you disable wifi radio on 3bb router. If not, your better-router will have signal conflict with 3bb device.

Final step: find similar WAN setup in your better-router. Mine is AsusWRT

[muratremix]

Thanks Muratremix,

I am connected by ethernet to the PC. Incidentally I find the Huawei WiFi to be very weak.

It's one of the reasons I hope to be able to "bridge" with my D-Link as that has great wifi connections on both 2.4 & 5 ghz

I'd welcome any info that will help me so yes please to screenshots.

I've added a mini guide above.

[manarak]

Computer ignoramus questions please.

I have the same 50/10 vdsl from 3BB and have the same slow international speeds.I'm also using the same Huawei router/modem.

I still have a D-Link DSL-2877AL piece of kit. Could I do the same as Muratremix tp improve speeds?

If so - what do I do? How do it do it? Do I need any extra cables or anything.

Should you be kind enough to respond please do so in the simplest of terms, It's best to regard me as knowing no technical terms whatsoever.

e.g. I still don't really know what bridging means although since reading this thread I've read several googled articles!

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

It's highly unlikely slow speeds are caused by 2.4 GHz wifi when the router is functioning OK and has been configured properly.

When used on the 2.4GHz band, 802.11n supports up to 72.2 Mbps - with the advantage of sensibly greater range than 5 GHz signals, especially indoors - with better penetration through concrete.

From what I could briefly see before I gave the Huawei back to 3BB, that modem-router is a capable piece of hardware supporting high speeds.

I think letting another router handle the WIFI is unlikely to improve speeds.

[Saraphee]

Thanks Muratremix,

I am connected by ethernet to the PC. Incidentally I find the Huawei WiFi to be very weak.

It's one of the reasons I hope to be able to "bridge" with my D-Link as that has great wifi connections on both 2.4 & 5 ghz

I'd welcome any info that will help me so yes please to screenshots.

I've added a mini guide above.

Thank You for this - I'll print out & study!

[muratremix]

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

It's highly unlikely slow speeds are caused by 2.4 GHz wifi when the router is functioning OK and has been configured properly.

When used on the 2.4GHz band, 802.11n supports up to 72.2 Mbps - with the advantage of sensibly greater range than 5 GHz signals, especially indoors - with better penetration through concrete.

From what I could briefly see before I gave the Huawei back to 3BB, that modem-router is a capable piece of hardware supporting high speeds.

I think letting another router handle the WIFI is unlikely to improve speeds.

You are forgetting how thin Thailand walls are and how many 2.4ghz wifi signals present in Condo units or Townhouses.

You can't get 72 mbits over 2.4 ghz when you're sharing limited frequency with others.

Most speed problems are due to wi-fi first. Too many people (neighbours) using same channel (1,6 or 12 by default) and some ignorants using 40mhz (2 channel!) to occupy even more.

I can't even stream high bitrate movies from NAS connected to my router upstairs using 2.4 ghz wifi despite the fact that I use high power antennas and high power output from router. In 5 ghz it all works fine (nobody using it)

[Pib]

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

From review of the digitalocean website, it appears to setup your cloud server/proxy it's all Linux based which I know close to zero about since I only use Windows other than a few weeks of playing with Linux Mint last year. Is there an easy way for us Windows folks to use digitalocean without needing to learn how to use Linux?

Unfortunately there is not.

However there are guides how to do it. I can also help fellow Thaivisa members for free (i.e install vpn / proxy for you).

Speed will be better than public vpn and when you're not using vpn, you can still use proxy to speed-up your browsing or downloading.

Thanks. From further review of the site I found one of their help pages that gives a guide if you are using Windows and Firefox. You also need to load an app called PuTTY on your Windows computer which manages the WinSock SSH tunneling stuff on your computer. I expect the setup would work with Chrome and IE also although these browsers proxy sett-up menus are a little different (not harder, just a little different).

I may get brave one day and give all of this a try since it seems DigitalOcean charges by the hour of use up to a max/capped amount per month which you control based on whatever plan you use if I understand it right based on a brief review. I guess if you didn't use the the service at all during a month you would not be charged anything. Although not a big concern, I also want to better understand how to best protect the cloud server/proxy set-up from hackers getting in which in turn would allow them to get into your 'puter when connected via the proxy.

[manarak]

Your slow speeds due to 2.4 ghz wifi? Have you tried via ethernet cable?

In simplest terms, having a singapore vpn or proxy can improve your speeds.

If you spend 5 usd per month, you can have your own private proxy / vpn at digitalocean. I've installed to others before for free.

If your wifi is causing problem, you'll need a 5ghz router (if your devices support 5ghz or AC of course).

I can put some screenshots how to enable bridging mode in huawei.

It's highly unlikely slow speeds are caused by 2.4 GHz wifi when the router is functioning OK and has been configured properly.

When used on the 2.4GHz band, 802.11n supports up to 72.2 Mbps - with the advantage of sensibly greater range than 5 GHz signals, especially indoors - with better penetration through concrete.

From what I could briefly see before I gave the Huawei back to 3BB, that modem-router is a capable piece of hardware supporting high speeds.

I think letting another router handle the WIFI is unlikely to improve speeds.

You are forgetting how thin Thailand walls are and how many 2.4ghz wifi signals present in Condo units or Townhouses.

You can't get 72 mbits over 2.4 ghz when you're sharing limited frequency with others.

Most speed problems are due to wi-fi first. Too many people (neighbours) using same channel (1,6 or 12 by default) and some ignorants using 40mhz (2 channel!) to occupy even more.

I can't even stream high bitrate movies from NAS connected to my router upstairs using 2.4 ghz wifi despite the fact that I use high power antennas and high power output from router. In 5 ghz it all works fine (nobody using it)

well, that's in part what I meant with "correctly configured" - avoiding neighbors' wifi overlaps on the same channel is part of configuration.

luckily, I had my condo completely wired using CAT5E SFTP, so I have gigabit ethernet everywhere.