May and Leadsom go head to head for leadership of British Conservatives

[alanrchase]

By the electorate? No. Why bother with the Brexit referendum? GE before Christmas is coming if the "people" matter.

We have a British system not an American one,

I don't see an GE anytime soon, we have enough instability as the current PM has showed his lack of statesmanship.

There isn't a PM at the moment. A caretaker is in charge. What has America got to do with it?

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

[i claudius]

I was going to say it was a choice between Wallace and Grommit, but to be honest I think either of them would be a better choice than this pair

Edited July 9, 2016 by i claudius

[Jip99]

We have a British system not an American one,

I don't see an GE anytime soon, we have enough instability as the current PM has showed his lack of statesmanship.

There isn't a PM at the moment. A caretaker is in charge. What has America got to do with it?

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

[alanrchase]

We have a British system not an American one,

I don't see an GE anytime soon, we have enough instability as the current PM has showed his lack of statesmanship.

There isn't a PM at the moment. A caretaker is in charge. What has America got to do with it?

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

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Yes he does. Diminished authority, hence caretaker. Unless some s#$t hits a fan he is a lame duck. Bit difficult to work out what is s#$t these days. All good fun.

[Basil B]

May end up being a one horse race...

The wheels are starting to fall off the the Leadsom band wagon.

Over exaggerated CV starting to bit her in the bum, she is losing all credibility.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/08/andrea-leadsom-was-part-time-assistant-not-banker-says-colleague-5994610/

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[SheungWan]

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

. .6

Yes he does. Diminished authority, hence caretaker. Unless some s#$t hits a fan he is a lame duck. Bit difficult to work out what is s#$t these days. All good fun.

You repeatedly confuse the formal seals of office which are dictated by the PM commanding a majority in parliament and his political authority which is weakened due to his announcement of intending to resign. He is currently not a 'caretaker'. There is no such post. As for the statement that he is a lame duck unless, there 'er is a crisis, that is also formally meaningless. Once Theresa May or the other one wins the election, they will then be consulted by Cameron, but until HM calls on his successor Cameron is the only one carrying the nuclear suitcase codes and one of the ladies does not get to formally be PM until invited to do so by HM. Inserting one's opinion for protocol procedure is as much duck a l'orange as the other one.

Edited July 9, 2016 by SheungWan

[alanrchase]

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

. .6

Yes he does. Diminished authority, hence caretaker. Unless some s#$t hits a fan he is a lame duck. Bit difficult to work out what is s#$t these days. All good fun.

You repeatedly confuse the formal seals of office which are dictated by the PM commanding a majority in parliament and his political authority which is weakened due to his announcement of intending to resign. He is currently not a 'caretaker'. There is no such post. As for the statement that he is a lame duck unless, there 'er is a crisis, that is also formally meaningless. Once Theresa May or the other one wins the election, they will then be consulted by Cameron, but until HM calls on his successor Cameron is the only one carrying the nuclear suitcase codes and one of the ladies does not get to formally be PM until invited to do so by HM. Inserting one's opinion for protocol procedure is as much duck a l'orange as the other one.

So you basically agree with my post?

[alanrchase]

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

. .6

Yes he does. Diminished authority, hence caretaker. Unless some s#$t hits a fan he is a lame duck. Bit difficult to work out what is s#$t these days. All good fun.

You repeatedly confuse the formal seals of office which are dictated by the PM commanding a majority in parliament and his political authority which is weakened due to his announcement of intending to resign. He is currently not a 'caretaker'. There is no such post. As for the statement that he is a lame duck unless, there 'er is a crisis, that is also formally meaningless. Once Theresa May or the other one wins the election, they will then be consulted by Cameron, but until HM calls on his successor Cameron is the only one carrying the nuclear suitcase codes and one of the ladies does not get to formally be PM until invited to do so by HM. Inserting one's opinion for protocol procedure is as much duck a l'orange as the other one.

So you basically agree with my post?

[alanrchase]

Of course we have a PM until Cameron goes to see the Queen, Cameron remains PM and his government continues. Once the Tory party have finished their deliberations Cameron will then go to the Palace and the Queen will have been advised who to call for. Its a very rapid process as many a PM has discovered there is no transition team, as Cameron departs his successor is on her way in through the door of No 10 within hours.

Very eloquent post. Fact is Cameron has made himself caretaker. All the niceties of office have to be followed. As caretaker he has given up power, the government is basically in limbo. The Queen etc is for tradition (which is nice) but has little to do with what will happen.

Camerom remains PM with full authority until he physically resigns (before the Tory conference in October).

. .6

Yes he does. Diminished authority, hence caretaker. Unless some s#$t hits a fan he is a lame duck. Bit difficult to work out what is s#$t these days. All good fun.

You repeatedly confuse the formal seals of office which are dictated by the PM commanding a majority in parliament and his political authority which is weakened due to his announcement of intending to resign. He is currently not a 'caretaker'. There is no such post. As for the statement that he is a lame duck unless, there 'er is a crisis, that is also formally meaningless. Once Theresa May or the other one wins the election, they will then be consulted by Cameron, but until HM calls on his successor Cameron is the only one carrying the nuclear suitcase codes and one of the ladies does not get to formally be PM until invited to do so by HM. Inserting one's opinion for protocol procedure is as much duck a l'orange as the other one.

So you basically agree with my post?

[boomerangutang]

This humor piece got me ginning. It takes one or two minutes to grasp the gist of it. Enjoy......

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8cd3f68a8c/awkward-exes-britain-america-fourth-of-july

[daveAustin]

I cant understand why no males are in the race, PC politicians are these women really the best Britain has.

Not necessarily but these are the ones currently willing to give it a go. What's wrong with a doris running a country anyway? They're as capable as any bloke of running office. We're not asking them to park cars. Have my reservations about May though; she was a real cow towards Brits bringing in their non-EU spouses and doesn't look great under pressure. Leadsom has a nice disposition. The CV thing has been misconstrued and totally blown out of proportion. As a Leaver, she'd be more adapt to leading Britain out of the EU.

[pitrevie]

An example of a caretaker PM.

MPs will vote on 18 July on renewing the UK's Trident nuclear weapons system, David Cameron has said.

Mr Cameron, speaking at the Nato summit in Warsaw, said he believed the vote would confirm support for replacing the full fleet of four submarines.

[alanrchase]

No longer care who gets the job. Short attention span I suppose. Had enough of promises and outright lies. Boris, lovable buffoon that he is, has shied away. Gove has been proved a t#$t. Hopefully I can weather the storm. Have sympathy for those whose lives may have been destroyed.

[dick dasterdly]

No longer care who gets the job. Short attention span I suppose. Had enough of promises and outright lies. Boris, lovable buffoon that he is, has shied away. Gove has been proved a t#$t. Hopefully I can weather the storm. Have sympathy for those whose lives may have been destroyed.

Know what you mean.

I stopped voting a few elections ago (apart from a 'none of the above' written in 'vote'), as it became v obvious that politicians can't be trusted.

We can only hope that the current politicians do their best for the majority of the country - rather than themselves .

Edited July 10, 2016 by dick dasterdly

[alanrchase]

No longer care who gets the job. Short attention span I suppose. Had enough of promises and outright lies. Boris, lovable buffoon that he is, has shied away. Gove has been proved a t#$t. Hopefully I can weather the storm. Have sympathy for those whose lives may have been destroyed.

Know what you mean.

I stopped voting a few elections ago (apart from a 'none of the above' written in 'vote'), as it became v obvious that politicians can't be trusted.

We can only hope that the current politicians do their best for the majority of the country - rather than themselves .

I am British, sometimes proud sometimes embarrassed. I let my voting right dissappear, don't pay tax so fine by me. Do not wish Britain to go down the tubes. Unfortunately since the demise of the empire (which everyone can argue about for the rest of time) we have a habit of kicking ourselves in the teeth. I hope I am wrong.

[IMA_FARANG]

I don't follow british politics. but is Ms May the one that tried to cut your pensions?

[dick dasterdly]

No longer care who gets the job. Short attention span I suppose. Had enough of promises and outright lies. Boris, lovable buffoon that he is, has shied away. Gove has been proved a t#$t. Hopefully I can weather the storm. Have sympathy for those whose lives may have been destroyed.

Know what you mean.

I stopped voting a few elections ago (apart from a 'none of the above' written in 'vote'), as it became v obvious that politicians can't be trusted.

We can only hope that the current politicians do their best for the majority of the country - rather than themselves .

I am British, sometimes proud sometimes embarrassed. I let my voting right dissappear, don't pay tax so fine by me. Do not wish Britain to go down the tubes. Unfortunately since the demise of the empire (which everyone can argue about for the rest of time) we have a habit of kicking ourselves in the teeth. I hope I am wrong.

I still pay tax (but am not entitled to NHS treatment), and still have empathy for those who are paid v little - but I agree about sometimes being embarrassed at being British.

Edit - to look on the bright side, not as embarrassed as the Americans .

Edited July 10, 2016 by dick dasterdly

[JHolmesJr]

Theresa May...

Apt name notwithstanding, she really seems a bit tentative on everything.

[dick dasterdly]

I don't follow british politics. but is Ms May the one that tried to cut your pensions?

No idea, as the state pension is many years away.

But politicians raided company and private pension funds a long time ago - as have many companies.

[alanrchase]

I don't follow british politics. but is Ms May the one that tried to cut your pensions?

No idea, as the state pension is many years away.

But politicians raided company and private pension funds a long time ago - as have many companies.

My understanding is the state pension is frozen. Gave it up myself. An article a few weeks back about an old lady who moved to Australia to be with her family, pension was frozen at about 4 quid a week.

[Jingthing]

Congratulations to the victor: Theresa May.

Game over.

Finalist quits race for British prime minister, ceding contest to Theresa May

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2016/07/11/finalist-quits-race-for-british-prime-minister-ceding-contest-to-theresa-may/?tid=a_breakingnews

[pitrevie]

The curtain now comes now on the pantomime with all the leading Bexiters having left the field. What an almighty shambles, we are now going to be led by someone who was in favour of staying in the EU. Not much point in Cameron resigning since that was his policy as well.

[Jingthing]

The curtain now comes now on the pantomime with all the leading Bexiters having left the field. What an almighty shambles, we are now going to be led by someone who was in favour of staying in the EU. Not much point in Cameron resigning since that was his policy as well.

Yeah, but Cameron wasn't willing to be the leader after the leave vote. May is.

[midas]

Congratulations to the victor: Theresa May.

Game over.

Finalist quits race for British prime minister, ceding contest to Theresa May

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2016/07/11/finalist-quits-race-for-british-prime-minister-ceding-contest-to-theresa-may/?tid=a_breakingnews

You know sod all about UK stuff ....

Worst possible result We can expect this woman to take care of EU interests rather than those of her own country. You can understand why Jingthing likes her because she is a self-serving as Hillary Clinton. How will people in England react to this and shouldn’t there be a general election?

[Jingthing]

I don't actually like her but she seems better than Leadsom and between May and Leadsom, only May is left standing.

[Eclipse]

What a pantomime. Wreck the economy and run away, the lot of them.

Hopefully PM May will never push the button for Article 50.

The best possible result as new PM.

Edited July 11, 2016 by Eclipse

[Basil B]

The curtain now comes now on the pantomime with all the leading Bexiters having left the field. What an almighty shambles, we are now going to be led by someone who was in favour of staying in the EU. Not much point in Cameron resigning since that was his policy as well.

I do not see some one who is antagonistic towards Europe as being the right person for negotiations particularly when they can not even get their CV factually correct.

Best of the worst to be PM by default.

Andrea Leadsom has pulled out of the contest to become the next Conservative Party leader and UK PM - with Theresa May now set to succeed David Cameron.

Mrs Leadsom said she did not believe she had sufficient support to lead a "strong and stable government".

-- BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208

[Jingthing]

I don't see how the U.K. can avoid article 50. But given the not at all strong mandate, the dirty rotten lies of the sleazy xenophobic leave campaign, and the widespread voices of Regrexit from Brexit voters, navigating all that is not an enviable job.

[Laughing Gravy]

May will try her best to keep the UK in the EU. She campaigned for the remain and will do her best behind the scenes. I have to say Leadom was more honest as a politician for me, although her experience in the limelight let her down. Don't be surprised if one day she is the prime minister.

Anyway another twist in UK politics. Not for the better either. The establishment and the EU just don't get it. The people have had enough. Get out of the EU quickly and start doing what people voted you in for. I dare May to call an election. She will not as the rise ok UKIp would happen and the Conservatives and Labour will be the losses. Even with Labour so disfranchised she knows the British people have had enough. She will hold on until 2020 that's if she stay that long in power.

Sad, sad day for UK democracy.

Edited July 11, 2016 by Laughing Gravy

[Jingthing]

So you seriously believe May is lying about her intention to lead the UK in the transition out of the EU?