" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

The maintenance crew and the pilots flying this airplane are "Non Skilled" third world people that will get people killed someday.

Looks like an open and shut case to me!

well certainly open that's for sure

Initially it was shut but it was only temporary like a lot of important things in Thailand.

"Unlike a few posters I don't assume that just because it was maintained by Thais the service is poor. If you are a registered aircraft engineer with a current licence you can't afford to cut any corners especially if your name is in the maintenance log book. Your licence means your job."

Does not apply to Thai engineers. I know, personal experience.

" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

Well lack of "WD 40" door hinges rust so they fall off the barn... oh wait it's a plane.

Edited July 11, 20169 yr by Mystified

" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

The maintenance crew and the pilots flying this airplane are "Non Skilled" third world people that will get people killed someday.

Of course you know them all personally and you yourself are fully qualified and licensed A and E engineer and probably qualified to fly twin engined aircraft up to international airline standards.

Am I correct or not?

"Unlike a few posters I don't assume that just because it was maintained by Thais the service is poor. If you are a registered aircraft engineer with a current licence you can't afford to cut any corners especially if your name is in the maintenance log book. Your licence means your job."

Does not apply to Thai engineers. I know, personal experience.

And yet even Thai airways has been reprimanded for their spotty maintenance practices.Many Thais withtheir CAA licence could not pass a test to aquire an FAA A&P license even though it is relatively easy to pass.Most of these small one or two plane Carriers use outside maintenance to save money.

" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

The maintenance crew and the pilots flying this airplane are "Non Skilled" third world people that will get people killed someday.

Of course you know them all personally and you yourself are fully qualified and licensed A and E engineer and probably qualified to fly twin engined aircraft up to international airline standards.

Am I correct or not?

By the way the license is an A&P meaning Aircraft and Power plant. and I have been involved in aircraft maintenance since 1956 and I have had an A&P and a CAA license from several countries both as a maintenance personnel and as an instructor in maintenance schools. .I also have over 500 hours flying time in 5 different helicopters and have taught ground school as a flight instructor.I still am involved in maintenance today do ing on call help to others. Reasontly in Thailand,,China ,Indonesia,and SingaporeSo Yes I think that I know about aircraft and their maintenance.

Some of the worst maintenance I've ever seen was in Japan, believe it or not.

The mechanics are capable of doing the work, and they do for foreign airlines they service (and charge handsomely), but they take short cuts like I've never seen before on their own aircraft. They sign off maintenance that was never completed, and lie to flight crew about it. The pen is mightier than the spanner!!

Which is worse, mechanics lacking skills, or those perfectly capable, but who wilfully cheat on maintenance??

" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

The aircraft was first registered in April of 1997 so it is at least 19 years old but I have no comment about the maintenance as like most people on the forum I have no idea who does the maintenance.

Unlike a few posters I don't assume that just because it was maintained by Thais the service is poor. If you are a registered aircraft engineer with a current licence you can't afford to cut any corners especially if your name is in the maintenance log book. Your licence means your job.

I'm not assuming the maintenance was poor because it was done by Thais.

I'm assuming the maintenance was poor because the door fell off in flight.

It's kind of a give away really.

No worries, put some fancy figures with white powder on it and hey presto, a huge amulet, no worries about maintenance anymore.

Edited July 12, 20169 yr by DrTuner

" He, however, insisted that the plane was not old and has been regularly checked and maintained."

And yet the door still fell off

Great.

The aircraft was first registered in April of 1997 so it is at least 19 years old but I have no comment about the maintenance as like most people on the forum I have no idea who does the maintenance.

Unlike a few posters I don't assume that just because it was maintained by Thais the service is poor. If you are a registered aircraft engineer with a current licence you can't afford to cut any corners especially if your name is in the maintenance log book. Your licence means your job.

I'm not assuming the maintenance was poor because it was done by Thais.

I'm assuming the maintenance was poor because the door fell off in flight.

It's kind of a give away really.

I don't think so. Every mechanical device has the potential to fail at some time. It may have been that a hinge pin was working loose, something very difficult to see on a pre flight inspection by either flight crew or mechanics, and it came right out on the flight in question, causing the door to come off. I'm not familiar with the aircraft type, much less the door construction and fitting, so can't comment.

It may have been picked up on the next 'in hangar' maintenance.

Maybe but it still sounds like a fairly major miss by whoever carried out the "maintenance".