younghusband Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Let me see.....this is the military reforming the police? Isn't that like fox reorganizing the hen house? Yes that's exactly what it's like.As it happens I think the priority is to reform the police.But the army structure is almost as completely incompetent and corrupt, with incidentally one of the highest ratios of generals to enlisted men in the world.At least the police don't stage illegal coups and blather in a mix of hypocrisy and cynicism that they are "saving the nation".In the future the current band of military nonentities will certainly be seen as having disgraced their uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbowman1993 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Let me see.....this is the military reforming the police? Isn't that like fox reorganizing the hen house? Yes that's exactly what it's like.As it happens I think the priority is to reform the police.But the army structure is almost as completely incompetent and corrupt, with incidentally one of the highest ratios of generals to enlisted men in the world.At least the police don't stage illegal coups and blather in a mix of hypocrisy and cynicism that they are "saving the nation".In the future the current band of military nonentities will certainly be seen as having disgraced their uniforms. It seem's Younghusband wants to bring Toxin back. Lets all join in! Toxin come back Toxin come back Toxin come back. Oh wait.....do you really want that corrupt, egomanicial, murderous, greed driven, psuedo dictator back in charge? Im quite happy to let the Brits enjoy him for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clifton Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Total failure in enforcing road laws, members of the force acting like mafia members, others have commited murders and kidnappings, and the list goes on. Add this one to the list: Work of tsunami victim centre hits a dead end Lack of cooperation blamed for delays ACHATDAYA CHUENNIRAN Phuket _ The centre in charge of identifying the bodies of the 2004 tsunami victims is frustrated that its work is hitting a dead end because of lack of cooperation from relevant authorities. Nitinai Sornsongkram, head of the Thai Tsunami Victim Identification and Repatriation Centre in Phangnga, bemoaned the slow pace of the identification process. He said the centre's identification work has been stalled by lack of interest on the part of the concerned authorities. He said more than two years have passed since the Dec 26, 2004 tragedy and 390 bodies still remain unidentified at the centre in Bang Maruan cemetery in Phangnga's Takua Pa district. In addition, there has been no progress in sending DNA samples from the corpses to China for testing, Mr Nitinai said. He said the national police was not even considering the centre's request to send them, although preparations had already been made to ship them. He has no clear idea what those responsible for identifying the bodies should do next in order to complete their work. ''This niggling question has remained unanswered for more than two years. ''Why are they so slow in returning the bodies to the relatives? Those in power must offer an answer to the kin of the victims,'' he said. He criticised the National Police Office for taking too much time in revamping its structure and not paying enough attention to the identification of bodies. The Phangnga centre is under the supervision of the National Police Office. Mr Nitinai said the victims' relatives and family members come to the centre almost every day to claim the bodies, but many bodies can't be identified because DNA samples had not been sent for testing. In recent months forensic experts have managed to identify 58 more bodies which are now waiting to be claimed by relatives. Of these, 50 are Thai, seven Burmese and one Nepalese. Relatives of the Burmese victims have been told to come and claim the corpses from the centre on July 23. The dead were among more than 200 Burmese migrant workers killed by the monster waves that struck the beaches of six Andaman coastline provinces. Mr Nitinai said the 36-million-baht tsunami memorial opposite the Bang Maruan cemetery has also been ignored. He said the masts set up at the memorial are all empty, without any national flags representing countries who lost their citizens in the tragedy. The memorial was opened on Dec 26 last year, the second anniversary of the disaster. http://www.bangkokpost.net/News/16Jul2007_news03.php Edited July 16, 2007 by Tony Clifton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 PM insists RTP will not be under Justice Ministry yet Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont (สุรยุทธ์ จุลานนท์) says the Royal Thai Police will not be under the Ministry of Justice. Gen. Surayud speaks about the restructuring of the Royal Thai Police, saying it will not be transferred to the Justice Minister, but it will be supervised by the Prime Minister's Office. He views that the Prime Minister should be responsible for overseeing the policy of the Royal Thai Police. The Prime Minister says he has forwarded the police committee's proposal to the Office of Council for further consideration. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 19 July 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Former police chiefs submitted proposal on police reform to PM The Prime Minister, Gen. Surayud Chulanont (สุรยุทธ์ จุลานนท์), says he is willing to listen to the police committee's proposal on the restructuring of the Royal Thai Police. The former police chiefs, including Pol. Gen. Pracha Promnok (ประชา พรหมนอก), Pol. Gen. Poj Bunyachinda (พจน์ บุญยะจินดา) and Pol. Gen. Sawat Amornwiwat (สวัสดิ์ อมรวิวัฒน์), together with former police spokesman Achirawit Suphanphesat (อชิรวิทย์ สุวรรณเภสัช), the President of the Police Association, Pol. Gen. Wisut Kittiwat (วิสุทธ์ กิตติวัฒน์) and other senior police officers discussed the restructuring of the Royal Thai Police with the Prime Minister at the Government House yesterday (Jul 19) . Pol. Gen. Sawat later reported that the Prime Minister received the proposal from the police committee, and Gen. Surayud will forward it to the Office of Council of State for further consideration. Gen.Sawat said the police committee does not opposed to the reform, but it views that some points have been disregarded. He said the committee would take further movement if the proposal has not been considered. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 20 July 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 It would be sad if the current government backtracked on what is actually the most popular piece of legislation they have mooted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clifton Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) Poll with significant numbers. Poll: People view police in negative light (BangkokPost.com) - A majority of people believe that police are dominated by politicians, according to a survey conducted by Assumption University. The poll assessed opinions of 8,613 people from January to July on "Public opinion on restructuring police force." Some 87.1% of respondents believe police are under domination of politicians. Some 77.3% believe they treat people unfairly, 72.1% believe they take bribes while 67.5% said they use money to buy their posts. The poll also assessed police's opinions on restructuring police force. Some 95.5% want pay raise of low-ranking polices. About 82.2% would like income of police investigators to be as high as that of public prosecutors while 79.7% want the restructuring to better suit current situation. http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/b...s.php?id=121103 Edited August 25, 2007 by Tony Clifton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Update: Pol. Gen. Seripisuth attended ceremony after official appointment as national police chief The Royal Thai Police Commissioner-General, Pol. Gen. Seripisuth Temiyavej (เสรีพิศุทธ์ เตมียาเวส), paid respect to the King Rama IX Monument and attended the ceremony at the Royal Thai Police after being officially appointed as the national police chief this morning (October 1st). During the ceremony, Pol. Gen. Seripisuth delivered a speech to the high-ranking police officials. He told them that their next duty is to develop their families and policemen into good individuals. In addition, they have to work at their utmost while saving their expenses and improving the operation within the Royal Thai Police so public members can depend on them. Pol. Gen. Seripisuth also asked all police officials to work together harmoniously. He said legal actions between commanders and their subordinates should not take place in the future. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 01 October 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Update:Pol. Gen. Seripisuth attended ceremony after official appointment as national police chief The Royal Thai Police Commissioner-General, Pol. Gen. Seripisuth Temiyavej (เสรีพิศุทธ์ เตมียาเวส), paid respect to the King Rama IX Monument and attended the ceremony at the Royal Thai Police after being officially appointed as the national police chief this morning (October 1st). During the ceremony, Pol. Gen. Seripisuth delivered a speech to the high-ranking police officials. He told them that their next duty is to develop their families and policemen into good individuals. In addition, they have to work at their utmost while saving their expenses and improving the operation within the Royal Thai Police so public members can depend on them. Pol. Gen. Seripisuth also asked all police officials to work together harmoniously. He said legal actions between commanders and their subordinates should not take place in the future. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 01 October 2007 A career in politics awaits you my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share Posted November 30, 2007 NLA accepts National Police Bill The National Legislative Assembly (NLA) has accepted a draft bill concerning the National Police at vote of 75-30 after convening for over 4 hours. The NLA assembled a special committee to deal with the matter comprised of 46 NLA members. The committee’s members included Mr. Chanchai Likitjitta (ชาญชัย ลิขิตจิตถะ) Police General Wasit Daechkunchorn (พล.ต.อ.วสิษฐ เดชกุญชร) and Squadron Leader Prasong Soonsiri (ประสงค์ สุ่นศิริ). The group is set to take 7 days to review the bill and have been given the authority to alter the bill if necessary. Mr. Chanchai stated that the bill is still in draft status and it was not created with the intention to invade the inner workings of the police. He reiterated that a main principle of the bill was to disperse power and allow citizens to have increased involvement in police work. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 30 November 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 New chief named for Immigration Bureau The Police Commission has decided to permanently remove Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang Pholpanij from the position of Immigration Police Chief. He has been replaced with Pol Lt-Gen Chatchawal Suksomjit from the law and investigation police office. National Police Chief Pol Gen Seripisuth Temiyavej, who abruptly transferred Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang to police headquarters in October, said after the commission meeting yesterday that Pol Lt-Gen Chatchawal was well-suited to the job because of his experience as a Deputy Chief of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, a Deputy Commissioner of the Central Investigation Bureau and the Chief of the law and investigation police office. He said most commissioners agreed with his proposal that Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang not return to the job. Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang was made a commissioner attached to the national police chief's office, with permanent status. On Oct 28, Pol Gen Seripisuth ordered Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang to move from the immigration police office to an inactive post at the police headquarters within 24 hours. The immediate transfer, which, at the time, carried temporary status, came amid reports that Pol Lt-Gen Bunruang refused to reinstate an immigration police colonel who had been moved to a forensic post, even though a police personnel panel recommended the reinstatement. Continued here: http://www.bangkokpost.net/News/17Jan2008_news08.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Jumpol returns to the police fold General Jumpol Manmai, reportedly a good friend and Police Cadet Class 26 classmate of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, is to return to the police in a special advisory position equivalent to a deputy national police chief. National police chief General Seripisut Temiyavej, who chaired a three-hour meeting of the Royal Thai Police committee assigning 30 senior officials yesterday morning, said Jumpol's new position was specially created for him and would be dissolved after his retirement. The meeting was initially deadlocked at seven votes for and seven against Jumpol's reinstatement. Seripisut cast his vote for Jumpol, currently an adviser in the Prime Minister's Office. A debated point was that Jumpol was making a comeback at an even higher rank than when he left the force, Seripisut said. He explained Jumpol's current position was equivalent to a permanent secretary and he should therefore have a police job as a general, not a captain. Seripisut said Lt-General Chatchawal Suksomjit had been made Immigration Police Bureau commissioner. "Chatchawal is a suitable and able officer for the position. He has served as a deputy police chief, deputy commissioner for central investigation headquarters and then commissioner of the litigation and investigation office," he said. Source: The Nation - 17 January 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Jumpol returns to the police fold [sNIP]Source: The Nation - 17 January 2008 Gen Seripisit could have a nice career in politics ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 what's the impact for simple folks like me? is this a good or bad development? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Good question. But during the administration of the TRT the waiting-cue for PR was built up and not handled, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschef Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 what's the impact for simple folks like me? is this a good or bad development? I wonder does he know anything about immigration, how can he know??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yes, new Chief, but same old problems for us unwanted poor farang, wish we had his ear for an hour or so at a public forum, there are a few things I would love to make him aware. One WISH that will never come true, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ando Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I wonder why the junta chose this late stage in their rule to undergo a Police reshuffle? Is the timing of this normal or could it be seen as politically motivated? This is a genuine question as I don't know if Police reshuffles occur traditionally at certain times of year or certain intervals. Certainly, the Thai Police have an international reputation for very high levels of corruption which of course makes them a very useful tool for unscrupulous politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I wonder why the junta chose this late stage in their rule to undergo a Police reshuffle?Is the timing of this normal or could it be seen as politically motivated? This is a genuine question as I don't know if Police reshuffles occur traditionally at certain times of year or certain intervals. Certainly, the Thai Police have an international reputation for very high levels of corruption which of course makes them a very useful tool for unscrupulous politicians. Gen Seripisit althopugh Junta installed is a politcal animal and not averse to playing whatever he must. One of Mr. Thaksin's known and outspoken police allies also got a nice move. Some have speculated that Gen. Seripisit could have a politcal career when he retires. He wont want to upset the PPP infact pleasing them although not too outrageously or obviously may be far more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 PM admits Police Act contains flaws Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont says the Royal Thai Police Act contains flaws, adding that the Council of State might amend it before forwarding it to the new administration. According to the premier, the Cabinet has approved the Act in principle and submitted it the Council of State for consideration. 12 more police bureaus will be set up after the Act takes effect, he says. However, the premier admits that the Act may cause overlapping of work in the Royal Thai Police. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 25 January 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Well it's worth a try, nothing else seem to improve the image of the police. Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Little chance of the police being restructured any time soon with the return of the Pol. Col (?) Thaksin as the power behind the mask. Well guess they will get restructured in terms of all his mates getting sudden promotions and powerul posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Police reform panel to submit 'road map' to PM A police reform proposal labelled the ''road map to police development'' is expected to reach PM Samak Sundaravej next month. The four-year plan has been drafted by the Police Reform Committee chaired by Pol Gen Vasit Dejkunjorn. It is contained in a 500-page report, Strategies for Police Development, and 15 supplementary documents. Vasit said he wanted the new government to give priority to the development and reform of the force. According to Vasit, the committee placed its focus on key problems hampering police work. The first is size, as it is agreed that the police force is too big and its scope excessive. The proposal envisages downsizing, with the elimination of overlapping work. The proposal also addresses the issue of police salaries. The committee agreed that the low pay is a root cause of corruption in the police force. It also looks into the possibility of decentralising the force's human resources management and budget allocation. Continued here: http://www.bangkokpost.net/News/07Feb2008_news10.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) Let's make it better PLEASE!! Follow the road map. Edited February 11, 2008 by BigSnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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