Lady Kai Case - at least 16 policemen guilty of not following procedures

[snoop1130]

Lady Kai Case - at least 16 policemen guilty of not following procedures



BANGKOK:-- A top policeman commenting on the investigation into the Lady Kai case has said that at least 16 policemen are guilty of not following procedures correctly as set out in National Police Bureau guidelines.

Thirteen are junior ranking officers but three are more senior officers. Some at least are believed to be officers at the Prachacheun station that is at the centre of the sensational case that has gripped the nation.

Monta Yokratanakan, named today as 58, is in jail on a charge of lese majeste as well as making false and malicious charges. She is set to face at least nine defendants who were former employees who claim they were maliciously charged with theft after leaving the self styled "lady's" employment.

Police are also investigating claims that she was involved in the disappearance of an Udon heiress who died in 2003 after it was discovered her name was on the death certificate and the cremation of the woman was hurried along.

Speaking about police involved in the case Jaruwat Waisaya said that 16 policemen will have to answer charges that they did not follow procedures correctly. They may face transfer if a committee is satisfied their presence near the investigation is prejudicial to the inquiry.

These charges are separate to claims that some of the men were directly involved in wrong doing in connection with the case against Lady Kai. Those investigations are on going, he said.

Source: Daily News: http://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/509027


-- 2016-07-14

[tifino]

the sticky mud is beginning to set in concrete

[chrisinth]

Wouldn't you just love the words of the statement to be true?

Meaning that errors in following procedures/protocol are being viewed separately to investigations of aiding and abetting this nutter.

The only problem with this, focusing only on the police, is that it will take the pressure of the Mr. Bigs which i have no doubt are in the mix somewhere.

[rkidlad]

"They may face transfer if a committee is satisfied their presence near the investigation is prejudicial to the inquiry"

Either way they should be fired. Being a police officer isn't the kind of job you have where you don't know what you're doing. And if they knew and deliberately did it, prison.

But whatever you do, don't slag off the Thai police. Some people get upset and we don't wanna hurt their feelings.

Let's just hope these sensitive folks who still believe in good, even when bad is the norm, don't ever have to deal with the police. Odds are there'll get screwed.

[trainman34014]

16 more for the 'Inactive post' bin. Must be bulging to capacity !

[anon467848]

Lady Gaga will be disappeared soon. Ugly can of worms looming...

[WhizBang]

But will anything actually happen to these 16 police (other than the usual transfer to a different station)?

Why do I get the feeling that this is all just smoke and mirrors to distract us?

[hanuman2543]

And what about the DA's and judges who were involved as well?

[colinneil]

16 police officers guilty of not following procedures

Why does that not surprise me.

Just another case of police corruption/ failure to do their jobs/ in competence.

[webfact]

16 Prachachuen officers faulted for not doing their jobs properly

BANGKOK: -- Sixteen police officers attached to Prachachuen police station have been faulted for not performing their duties properly regarding nine theft cases involving former employees of Ying Kai or Mrs Monta Yokrattanakarn.

Pol Maj-Gen Charuwat Waisaya, deputy commissioner of metropolitan police, said on Thursday that the investigation committee had found out that seven enquiry officers of Prachachuen police station did not follow Section 131 of the Criminal Procedure Code and National Police Order 419 for not doing their job carefully.

The nine other police officers – three enquiry chief officers, four deputy superintendents and two deputy commanders were faulted for not obeying National Police Order 419.

All the 16 officers involved, more or less, in the handling of nine theft cases lodged by Ying Kai against some of her employees whom she accused of stealing her valuables.

Pol Maj-Gen Charuwat said he would propose his superior to transfer the officers out of Prachachuen police station if their continued presence there would compromise the nine theft cases. Disciplinary actions will have to wait until the completion of the probe against the officers, he added.

Asked whether any of the 16 officers have personal relationship with Ying Kai, Charuwat said that his main focus was to determine whether the officers had properly performed their duties or not.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/16-prachachuen-officers-faulted-not-jobs-properly/

-- Thai PBS 2016-07-15

[shirtless]

It just shows how corrupt this country is , i would not like to be poor in Thailand

[NongKhaiKid]

16 more for the 'Inactive post' bin. Must be bulging to capacity !

The Police Operations Centre in Bkk will need some massive extensions built urgently as it must be Inactive Posts - Standing Room Only.

[DaveinAsia]

Is guilty of not following procedures another way of saying absolutely corrupted and criminal?

[sjjmmi]

Now need too get a bigger carpet and broom

[trogers]

It just shows how corrupt this country is , i would not like to be poor in Thailand

"Police are also investigating claims that she was involved in the disappearance of an Udon heiress who died in 2003"

A victim need not be poor either...

[thesetat2013]

Wouldn't you just love the words of the statement to be true?

Meaning that errors in following procedures/protocol are being viewed separately to investigations of aiding and abetting this nutter.

The only problem with this, focusing only on the police, is that it will take the pressure of the Mr. Bigs which i have no doubt are in the mix somewhere.

Is it so hard to believe that these officers did not follow procedures correctly? They probably didn't even know the procedures existed.

[JMWPACIFIC]

Transfer??? How about fired??

[Daffy D]

"Being a police officer isn't the kind of job you have where you don't know what you're doing"

If you have enough money, say 700,000Bt, seems you can become a high ranking policeman without knowing anything about real policing.

[NongKhaiKid]

The last sentence of the story says so much.

Determining any personal relationship between Ying Kai and the BIB should be an inherent part of the investigation as it might show reasons why the police didn't do their job properly.

Of course it might just make matters worse.

[smedly]

Is guilty of not following procedures another way of saying absolutely corrupted and criminal?

I believe you are correct

If this country wants to get serious about police corruption they need to start making examples of those found guilty with prosecutions and jail.

The problem of course is who can you find that is uncorruptable and is brave enough to actually investigate, we have already seen an army commander flee the country in fear for his life because he started to investigate certain people

The changes needed in Thailand would take a very long time and would require some very determined dedicated people with article 44 like power

[Emster23]

"...faulted for not obeying National Police Order 419."

Anyone know what that order might be? "Junior officers shall remit at least 80% of monies collected to more senior officers in order to improve workings of RTP"?

[sanukjim]

But there will be nothing done except a transfer or two to these bibs knowingly excepting bribes from this lady kai axxhole.

[tomyummer]

Every time the police are doing wrong they are threatened with a transfer. Ooohhh how horrible! I'm sure they're peeing in their pants.

[Srikcir]

policemen are guilty of not following procedures correctly

So an administrative issue and not a criminal issue.

It will probably be up to the NACC to decide any criminal issue, especially if the prosecuting Attorney General Office and judges are involved.

[tuanku]

I get the feeling they are trying to establish a ceiling on this case above which it will not be allowed to go. LM is part of that as it moves important sections of the trial out of the public domain and allows a conviction on those grounds which might excuse investigating the rest of the mess too thoroughly. An interesting glimpse into the morality of the entitled classes though.

[SOTIRIOS]

....is he saying they colluded.....???

...that would make them culpable for whatever crimes were committed...as accomplices.....

[Khon Kaen Dave]

And this is why this country will never move forward and only ever be thought of as a sex and drugs vacation destination,with no hope of ever being taken seriously by other Nations.

[keskeseksa]

I have a feeling she will die soon in jail.