Sinners! Thais online blast temple fisherman

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Sinners! Thais online blast temple fisherman


Image: Daily News

BANGKOK: -- Thais love fish and fishing is a national pastime – but you had better not do it in the grounds of a temple. No matter how large and tempting the catch.

Someone tried to do just that in Rangsit yesterday and incurred the wrath of the online community who yelled out that it was a sin, reported Daily News.

A Thai man called Narit Mansri had been riding his bike home in the area of the temple of Wat Na Bun in Thanyaburi, Pathum Thani province yesterday afternoon. He saw a monk trying to drag fish that had died in a net out of the klong in front of the temple.

So he went to help. The monk told him that the fish were called Pla Sawai – and they were all the huge ones weighing 3-6 kilos that are often fed by merit makers at temples.

The monk said that someone had clearly come along earlier in the afternoon and laid the net so that they could return later and retrieve the fish. About a hundred of the fish were dead, caught up in the net.

Narit posted pictures of his experience on his Den Jakajee Facebook page and in no time the Thai community were angrily posting about the sinner who would do such a thing.

Source: Daily News

-- 2016-07-15

[halloween]

Sacre blah! what is the world coming to?

[55Jay]

Some monks smoke, drink alcohol, have sex, fiddle kids, view porn, use drugs and use Buddhism for pure profiteering.

That being the case, I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn it was a monk who set that fish net.

[Winniedapu]

Disrespectful certainly, but a sin? Not in my assessment of the real usefulness of religion - any religion.

Poor Thailand and it's superstitious people. If only they understood that many people believe the Buddhist priesthood is full of criminals, and the women's branch full of ex-prostitutes. Personally, I'm all for redemption, but I see very little spirituality in Buddhism Thai-style. Lots of money-grabbing and phony expressions of contrition when Thais get caught out in crimes though...

Theeravada Buddhism - Thai-style, is a money-making and influence-peddling venture, no different from any other 'religion'.

Winnie

Edited July 15, 2016 by Winniedapu

[jak2002003]

And do we thing the monks will bury or burn the fish to give them peace... or will they decided they better eat them?

[Winniedapu]

And do we thing the monks will bury or burn the fish to give them peace... or will they decided they better eat them?

It seems reasonable to ask why the fish are there in the first place - to be caught and eaten I'll wager. By the monks.

Which, presumably, is not a 'sin'.

Hypocrisy is like air: everywhere you go, it's all around you.

Winnie

[colinneil]

Monks will be frying tonight.

Can i get some vinegar on mine.

[halloween]

Monks will be frying tonight.

Can i get some vinegar on mine.

I'm sure the head friar will appoint a chip monk.

[tomyummer]

After feeding these fish into such sizes, it seems sacrilegious NOT to eat them when they die. What a waste.

Imagine a temple being able to feed a community with the donations (fish food) from the community itself.

Edited July 15, 2016 by tomyummer

[kinmaew]

Just proves who pointless their "Merit Making" is. How about stopping in your car to let a person cross the road could be a good start.

[Pimay1]

After feeding these fish into such sizes, it seems sacrilegious NOT to eat them when they die. What a waste.

Imagine a temple being able to feed a community with the donations (fish food) from the community itself.

Imaging a temple giving back anything to the community.

[dageurreotype]

Meanwhile, just this week a Californian Buddhist temple's monks had bought 500lbs of lobster and had then taken them to some far flung out of the way place in the hope the lobsters wouldn't be re caught to free them. The monks weren't Thai though.

Which reminds me of a Bhutanese temple pooling their resources to buy some tiger cubs destined for the Chinese 'medicine trade. Of course they weren't Thai either.

[tifino]

After feeding these fish into such sizes, it seems sacrilegious NOT to eat them when they die. What a waste.

Imagine a temple being able to feed a community with the donations (fish food) from the community itself.

whatever has been offered to the Monks,

that doesn't get eaten by the Monks,

not the merit makers later

- will be 'given back to the birds'

[swifty5x5]

And do we thing the monks will bury or burn the fish to give them peace... or will they decided they better eat them?

It seems reasonable to ask why the fish are there in the first place - to be caught and eaten I'll wager. By the monks.

Which, presumably, is not a 'sin'.

Hypocrisy is like air: everywhere you go, it's all around you.

Winnie

You release small fish and turtles into the pond for good Karma.

[55Jay]

Meanwhile, just this week a Californian Buddhist temple's monks had bought 500lbs of lobster and had then taken them to some far flung out of the way place in the hope the lobsters wouldn't be re caught to free them. The monks weren't Thai though.

Which reminds me of a Bhutanese temple pooling their resources to buy some tiger cubs destined for the Chinese 'medicine trade. Of course they weren't Thai either.

My MiL used to do similar things when she was still mobile. Sometimes came home from the market with live frogs or fish, and let them go in the pond out back.

I wasn't so moved the first time I saw 2 Thai guys with a cage full of captured, slightly traumatized wild sparrows at a local city festival. Robbing the birds of their freedom and natural life is overlooked, in order to exploit religious culture. I think it was 50 Baht to let one go free. Maybe near the end, you could score a Buy 1 Get 1 Free promotion.

[Strangebrew]

Is that after you catch these fish and turtles in the wild in the first place? That seems like pulling the teeth out of a slow lorsi

[Rayk]

Some monks smoke, drink alcohol, have sex, fiddle kids, view porn, use drugs and use Buddhism for pure profiteering.

That being the case, I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn it was a monk who set that fish net.

As Buddha said, what we think, we become.

[phycokiller]

another non issue for angry people to get angry about

[SOTIRIOS]

....how pathetically sick and hypocritical once again....

...monks themselves have been caught in every which illegal act imaginable recently....

...yet this evokes outrage......???

[PoorSucker]

Just proves who pointless their "Merit Making" is. How about stopping in your car to let a person cross the road could be a good start.

That is actually against the law, was on my DL test.

Accidents happen when someone stops and the driver behind overtakes not seeing the pedestrian.

[rkidlad]

I remember speaking to a Thai fella at football. His brother was a monk and he seemed really proud of him. Would help him with activities at the weekend and such. This guy seemed more religious than your average Thai. Anywho, I don't know how, but the subject of 'fishing' came up. I asked him if he likes fishing and he said "No. In Buddhism you cannot hurt animals". I genuinely replied "Oh, you're a vegetarian". "No", he replied "I need to eat meat to live. But I don't kill the animal".

So, there you go. That basically sums up all religions. Doing bad stuff or going against the rules of your religion, but rationalizing it with BS. Hey, I eat animals too. But I don't claim to be holier than thou.

[dageurreotype]

I remember speaking to a Thai fella at football. His brother was a monk and he seemed really proud of him. Would help him with activities at the weekend and such. This guy seemed more religious than your average Thai. Anywho, I don't know how, but the subject of 'fishing' came up. I asked him if he likes fishing and he said "No. In Buddhism you cannot hurt animals". I genuinely replied "Oh, you're a vegetarian". "No", he replied "I need to eat meat to live. But I don't kill the animal".

So, there you go. That basically sums up all religions. Doing bad stuff or going against the rules of your religion, but rationalizing it with BS. Hey, I eat animals too. But I don't claim to be holier than thou.

Not Jainism.

[55Jay]

Is that after you catch these fish and turtles in the wild in the first place? That seems like pulling the teeth out of a slow lorsi

Precisely. It is very superficial.

My wife sometimes moans a bit if we stop at a traffic signal near a lorry with cages of pigs in the back. She feels sorry for them and their inevitable fate. Happened just last week as we drove to Makro wherein, 20 minutes later, she was sifting through bloody bins choosing the best looking cuts of pork.

Secure in the knowledge that the pigs who donated their hind legs and hooves to Makro for human consumption and profit, are still alive and kicking somewhere in Issan.

Edited July 15, 2016 by 55Jay

[cockatoowho]

A Thai calling a Thai a sinner, talk about hypocrisy at its finest. That's right up there with illegally taking over the country and then ordering everyone to not break the law or hurt the image of the country. Mind boggles.

[Winniedapu]

And do we thing the monks will bury or burn the fish to give them peace... or will they decided they better eat them?

It seems reasonable to ask why the fish are there in the first place - to be caught and eaten I'll wager. By the monks.

Which, presumably, is not a 'sin'.

Hypocrisy is like air: everywhere you go, it's all around you.

Winnie

You release small fish and turtles into the pond for good Karma.

Yes, I know about that. However it isn't usually in a temple pond/lake, but in an open river or large lake.

In this instance, I suppose that free fish dinners for the monks are an "unlooked-for spin-of benefit' completely unexpected but fortuitous.

Doubtless a gift from the Buddha to reward holy and selfless behaviour.

Pigs on the wing... call me a cynic.

Winnie

[Winniedapu]

I remember speaking to a Thai fella at football. His brother was a monk and he seemed really proud of him. Would help him with activities at the weekend and such. This guy seemed more religious than your average Thai. Anywho, I don't know how, but the subject of 'fishing' came up. I asked him if he likes fishing and he said "No. In Buddhism you cannot hurt animals". I genuinely replied "Oh, you're a vegetarian". "No", he replied "I need to eat meat to live. But I don't kill the animal".

So, there you go. That basically sums up all religions. Doing bad stuff or going against the rules of your religion, but rationalizing it with BS. Hey, I eat animals too. But I don't claim to be holier than thou.

Not Jainism.

Thais do not adhere to Jainism.

Win

[thai3]

They are all sinners if they are eating meat and fish, filthy.

[Artisi]

Monks will be frying tonight.

Can i get some vinegar on mine.

I'm sure the head friar will appoint a chip monk.

10/10

[ratcatcher]

Klong Rangsit is many kilometres long and many people enjoy a spot of fishing from the banks. In this case the fisherman was using an illegal net in front of the Wat where thousands of fish gather to enjoy the food that Buddhists throw into the klong to feed them. A storm in a gillnet.

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and feed him for a lifetime".Chinese proverb

[Winniedapu]

They are all sinners if they are eating meat and fish, filthy.

Not really. The human body is designed to subsist on an omnivorous diet, not a vegetarian diet.

Many people believe that a vegetarian diet, or a diet of vegetables and fruit is better for health than the diet which includes animal protein and fat. As I understand it, this is a faith stance and is unsupported by medicine.

A moralistic stance, based on an aversion to killing animals is more understandable, but is still something of a faith stance, after all, the world largely functions on predation of one kind or another.

"Each to his or her own" seems to be the best approach, I respect other people's beliefs, and I promise not to try and force mine on them, if they promise not to try and force theirs on me

Winnie

Edited July 15, 2016 by Winniedapu