Hawk Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) "And they intimated that people who went might not be allowed to return to Thailand." The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 13. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. Article 15.(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality. Edited July 15, 2016 by Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikoboogie Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 "And they intimated that people who went might not be allowed to return to Thailand."The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 13. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state. (2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. The UN is not my father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooPoopedToPop Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Party poopers... they've ruined the birthday boy's big day. The whole clan was looking forward to a big shindig in HK that would keep them in the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 What an utterly pathetic move by the government.......they cannot refuse their citizens access to the country because they go to meet the a few generals "enemy"! The antics of this ruling junta should seriously be starting to worry Thai people......referendum or not...election or not.....this junta isn't leaving any time soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayk Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) As much as I dislike the Junta you guys here all seem to be taking the words of Pheu Thai as being gospel. We all know they fools are notorious for distorting facts and lying while they look you right straight in the face. I will believe it when I hear it from the government and definitely not from Pheu Thai. Edited July 15, 2016 by Rayk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikoboogie Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 What an utterly pathetic move by the government.......they cannot refuse their citizens access to the country because they go to meet the a few generals "enemy"! The antics of this ruling junta should seriously be starting to worry Thai people......referendum or not...election or not.....this junta isn't leaving any time soon! where is your evidence that this pathetic move is actually by the government and not pathetic lies by the PTP to forward some agenda ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockatoowho Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Isn't that a face you'd just love to punch. 555555 What a piece of excrement, glad it's having another birthday.....one step closer to death. He probably has the same views about expats like you who feel the need to meddle in politics of a nation that you are merely a guest in.Always engage brain before opening ones mouth. I think you should get some advice on my status in Thailand. Then follow your last sentence you wrote. They are wise words the last ones. Care to share your delusion of grandeur with us all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Thaksin should wait until after the referendum before staging his birthday bash (and hope that the Draft Constitution is accepted by the Thai people). A comparison of just one Section from the Interim and Draft documents says it all! Under the Interim Constitution 2014: Section 44. In the case where the Head of the National Council for Peace and Order deems necessary for the purpose of reforms in various fields, for the enhancement of unity and harmony among people in the country, or for the prevention, restraint, or suppression of any act which undermines public order or national security, the Throne, the national economy, or State affairs, irrespective of whether such act occurred inside or outside the Kingdom, the Head of the National Council for Peace and Order, with the approval of the National Council for Peace and Order, shall have power to order, restrain, or perform any act, whether such act has legislative, executive, or judicial force; the orders and the acts, including the performance in compliance with such orders, shall be deemed lawful and constitutional under this Constitution, and shall be final. When those have been carried out, a report shall be made to the President of the National Assembly and the Prime Minister for acknowledgement without delay. And in the Draft Constitution 2016: Section 44 A person shall enjoy the liberty to assemble peacefully and without arms. Restriction on the liberty under Paragraph One shall be prohibited, except by virtue of the provisions of the law enacted for the purpose of maintaining the security of the State, public safety, public order or good morals of people, or protecting the rights or liberties of other persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I didnt realize Thaksin is still so popular, nice of the PM to let us know Free all expense paid trip to HK for a party? Hell, I may jump on that one myself. BTW, who is is this Thaksin guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Is non-binding in international law, plus Thailand wasn't even a signatory to it in 1948. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Isn't that a face you'd just love to punch. 555555 What a piece of excrement, glad it's having another birthday.....one step closer to death. No not at all he was a democratically elected PM that was removed by an Illegal coup finally when the people were allowed to vote again they voted in his Sister and again she as the legal democratically elected PM and yet again removed by a Coup hmmmmm LOOKS like a pattern here 2 democratically elected individuals removed by a coup and now they are doing their very best to avoid and make it hard for THE PEOPLE to elect who they want So No I dont want to punch him in the face I want to wish him a Happy Birthday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondKing Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 As much as I dislike the Junta you guys here all seem to be taking the words of Pheu Thai as being gospel. We all know they fools are notorious for distorting facts and lying while they look you right straight in the face. I will believe it when I hear it from the government and definitely not from Pheu Thai. Seriously haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xineohp Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 For someone whom the administration constantly reminds us is of little consequence and yesterdays man, Thaksin sure attracts a lot of attention. Those posters not familiar with either the north or north-east of Thailand would be somewhat surprised to learn that this man's followers appear to number in the millions. Sufficient one would say to be of enormous consequence if the administration were honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 widely respected by millions despite his faults and feared, it seems, by the Junta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 And if a foreigner would have gone to his party I guess you would be blacklisted forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skildpadden Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So if Thaksin is such a big threat that you warn people of visiting him, Why haven't you just brought him back to Thailand to serve his prison sentence? What is keeping you from doing that? Or is it because it is mighty convenient to have a bogeyman to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwiken Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Is non-binding in international law, plus Thailand wasn't even a signatory to it in 1948. But is listed as a signatory as of 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyman Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Isn't that a face you'd just love to punch. 555555 What a piece of excrement, glad it's having another birthday.....one step closer to death. He probably has the same views about expats like you who feel the need to meddle in politics of a nation that you are merely a guest in.Always engage brain before opening ones mouth. I think you should get some advice on my status in Thailand. Then follow your last sentence you wrote. They are wise words the last ones. Ha Ha, brilliant !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inn Between Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can't they see that they're just solidifying people's alliance to Thaksin by making such threats? Who made what threat? Could just as easily been the PTP treasurer didn't want to admit they don't have the funds to sponsor 1,000 followers to HK for a wild shindig, especially with Thai Airlines cutting back on free seats for the well connected. Or a PTP leader just trying to drive another wedge between the good guys and the bad guys. (Note carefully I didn't say which were which) Seriously? Here's the quote from the article. I assume you can read. "...after potential guests were warned by the military junta - go to the party and we might not let you back into Thailand." Good lord, man!!! At least I'm basing my opinion on something we can see. Yours seems to be based on very wild speculation (or those voices in your head LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 It seems a little petty, even for Thailand. I wouldn't want Cameron or Blair saying who I could visit on holiday. I can understand you not wanting Bliar or Camoron to stop you visiting a friend on holiday, but Theresa may try.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Is non-binding in international law, plus Thailand wasn't even a signatory to it in 1948. But is listed as a signatory as of 2008 I doubt that Thailand has created relevant pieces of legislation based on this declaration. Edited July 15, 2016 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 That's it the baby spits the dummy. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can't they see that they're just solidifying people's alliance to Thaksin by making such threats? Who made what threat? Could just as easily been the PTP treasurer didn't want to admit they don't have the funds to sponsor 1,000 followers to HK for a wild shindig, especially with Thai Airlines cutting back on free seats for the well connected. Or a PTP leader just trying to drive another wedge between the good guys and the bad guys. (Note carefully I didn't say which were which) There are no good guys,only bad and less bad. And the less bad are the ones elected by the people and who can be removed by the electorate. The bad ones are the old elite who desperately cling to power by staging coups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I didnt realize Thaksin is still so popular, nice of the PM to let us know Free all expense paid trip to HK for a party? Hell, I may jump on that one myself. BTW, who is is this Thaksin guy? Who is Thaksin? He is the bogeyman the junta uses as an excuse to overthrow an elected government and cling on to power. Some Thais believe this <deleted>, but what's astonishing is that a small group of foreigners believe it too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Can't they see that they're just solidifying people's alliance to Thaksin by making such threats? Who made what threat? Could just as easily been the PTP treasurer didn't want to admit they don't have the funds to sponsor 1,000 followers to HK for a wild shindig, especially with Thai Airlines cutting back on free seats for the well connected. Or a PTP leader just trying to drive another wedge between the good guys and the bad guys. (Note carefully I didn't say which were which) There are no good guys,only bad and less bad. And the less bad are the ones elected by the people and who can be removed by the electorate. The bad ones are the old elite who desperately cling to power by staging coups. "And the less bad are the ones elected by the people and who can be removed by the electorate. " Wise words, if the elected ones play by and respect the rules. Edited July 15, 2016 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can't they see that they're just solidifying people's alliance to Thaksin by making such threats?Who made what threat? Could just as easily been the PTP treasurer didn't want to admit they don't have the funds to sponsor 1,000 followers to HK for a wild shindig, especially with Thai Airlines cutting back on free seats for the well connected.Or a PTP leader just trying to drive another wedge between the good guys and the bad guys. (Note carefully I didn't say which were which) Seriously? Here's the quote from the article. I assume you can read. "...after potential guests were warned by the military junta - go to the party and we might not let you back into Thailand." Good lord, man!!! At least I'm basing my opinion on something we can see. Yours seems to be based on very wild speculation (or those voices in your head LOL). Now wait for 'Ha!! So how do you know it wasn't just Thaksin disguised as the junta?'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) I didnt realize Thaksin is still so popular, nice of the PM to let us know Free all expense paid trip to HK for a party? Hell, I may jump on that one myself. BTW, who is is this Thaksin guy? Who is Thaksin? He is the bogeyman the junta uses as an excuse to overthrow an elected government and cling on to power. Some Thais believe this <deleted>, but what's astonishing is that a small group of foreigners believe it too!! What rubbish. Every point you attempt is distorted. Are you saying the paymaster is clean and innocent? 'Small group of foreigners...' No comment needed. Edited July 15, 2016 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I didnt realize Thaksin is still so popular, nice of the PM to let us know Free all expense paid trip to HK for a party? Hell, I may jump on that one myself. BTW, who is is this Thaksin guy? Who is Thaksin? He is the bogeyman the junta uses as an excuse to overthrow an elected government and cling on to power. Some Thais believe this <deleted>, but what's astonishing is that a small group of foreigners believe it too!! What rubbish. Every point you attempt is distorted. Are you saying the paymaster is clean and innocent? 'Small group of foreigners...' No comment needed. the very real wonderment is that you really believe the stories AND believe the junta. no one here is 'clean and innocent' but he was elected - get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikoboogie Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The Universal Declaration of Human Rights Is non-binding in international law, plus Thailand wasn't even a signatory to it in 1948. But is listed as a signatory as of 2008 I doubt that Thailand has created relevant pieces of legislation based on this declaration. in fact didn't the "big man" say "the UN is not my father" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Gollum with hair...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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