ardokano Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Just not do offtop in some topic make this is topic "Toyota does not make motorcycles"© Is it true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thian Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Strange that i've never seen one of those in Thailand. They do have the motocy with double frontwheels though but if this thing has aircon it's really the best vehicle for BKK and deserves a special lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 The Toyota motocross bike shown by the OP is actually a 2009 Yamaha YZ450F, Toyota replaced many parts with carbon-fiber parts to show off… The bike was shown at the 2009 SEMA Show (Special Equipment Manufacturing Association) and it was not about the motorcycle but more about the carbon-fiber parts that Toyota made with a special by Toyota patented manufacturing process…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardokano Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 The Toyota motocross bike shown by the OP is actually a 2009 Yamaha YZ450F, Toyota replaced many parts with carbon-fiber parts to show off The bike was shown at the 2009 SEMA Show (Special Equipment Manufacturing Association) and it was not about the motorcycle but more about the carbon-fiber parts that Toyota made with a special by Toyota patented manufacturing process. Ok when. Thanks. And how about second picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taichiplanet Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 The Toyota motocross bike shown by the OP is actually a 2009 Yamaha YZ450F, Toyota replaced many parts with carbon-fiber parts to show off The bike was shown at the 2009 SEMA Show (Special Equipment Manufacturing Association) and it was not about the motorcycle but more about the carbon-fiber parts that Toyota made with a special by Toyota patented manufacturing process.Ok when.Thanks. And how about second picture? http://www.toyota-global.com/innovation/personal_mobility/i-road/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Off Topic posts Removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 To the OP - apparently the answer is "No". In general, I believe transport manufacturers go "up" in importance and technology, but not often "down". This means a 'bicycle manufacturer' may become a 'motorcycle manufacturer' and one day even a 'manufacturer of cars', but very unlikely that a car manufacturer would begin to motorcycles. I believe Yamaha contributes to advanced engine production for Toyota - LFA, F1? etc.., so if there was ever a Toyota brand on a motorcycle I would expect it to be a Yamaha - as Richard pointed out earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardokano Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 To the OP - apparently the answer is "No". In general, I believe transport manufacturers go "up" in importance and technology, but not often "down". This means a 'bicycle manufacturer' may become a 'motorcycle manufacturer' and one day even a 'manufacturer of cars', but very unlikely that a car manufacturer would begin to motorcycles. I believe Yamaha contributes to advanced engine production for Toyota - LFA, F1? etc.., so if there was ever a Toyota brand on a motorcycle I would expect it to be a Yamaha - as Richard pointed out earlier. SO what ii it? People say: Bonjour! Commuting in France on Toyota’s electric motorbike My Next Motorcycle is a . . . Toyota? etc so you say NO its people dreaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 To the OP - apparently the answer is "No". In general, I believe transport manufacturers go "up" in importance and technology, but not often "down". This means a 'bicycle manufacturer' may become a 'motorcycle manufacturer' and one day even a 'manufacturer of cars', but very unlikely that a car manufacturer would begin to motorcycles. I believe Yamaha contributes to advanced engine production for Toyota - LFA, F1? etc.., so if there was ever a Toyota brand on a motorcycle I would expect it to be a Yamaha - as Richard pointed out earlier. SO what ii it? People say: Bonjour! Commuting in France on Toyota’s electric motorbike My Next Motorcycle is a . . . Toyota? etc so you say NO its people dreaming? I think the secret may be in the filename of the image you have uploaded. It seems to be called a Toyota iRoad (an electric mobility vehicle), which is one of about 30 concept vehicles listed in the 2010 - 2019 period: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 http://www.toyota-global.com/innovation/personal_mobility/i-road/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhruGin Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 ^ yep a car with 3 wheels, bit like the late 50's/ early 60's Messerschmitt CAR ...Yes it is a car. Toyota themselves do not call it a motorbike, only that it has some features similar to a motorbike, but at the end of the day it is a car that can lean ....it also has a steering wheel, not a pair of handlebars. Conclusion : A car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 With a three-wheeler, the definition between being a car and being a motorcycle is the space between the two wheels. For instant a Yamaha Tricity is with its closely spaced front wheels a scooter. But something like a Thai tuk-tuk is a car… Officially the UN has agreed that three-wheeled cars can be operated by a person who has a motorcycle driver’s license. But sadly Thailand did not signed all the agreements when it comes to drivers licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 There seem to be a few others around.....can't really understand how these ideas get into production...lol : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 There seem to be a few others around.....can't really understand how these ideas get into production...lol : I have no idea if UK law has changed but those rides are classed as a m/cycle and side car (3 wheels) and can be driven on a m/cycle license...BUT, your street cred was ZERO........True and I think they must not have a reverse gear to by driven with a MC license.that was the problem with the re-named Henkel /Trojan. My uncle used to make then in Croydon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 nice blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 There seem to be a few others around.....can't really understand how these ideas get into production...lol : I have no idea if UK law has changed but those rides are classed as a m/cycle and side car (3 wheels) and can be driven on a m/cycle license...BUT, your street cred was ZERO........True and I think they must not have a reverse gear to by driven with a MC license.that was the problem with the re-named Henkel /Trojan. My uncle used to make then in Croydon!!! The Honda Gold Wing GL1800 has a reverse gear also.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzz Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 With a three-wheeler, the definition between being a car and being a motorcycle is the space between the two wheels. For instant a Yamaha Tricity is with its closely spaced front wheels a scooter. But something like a Thai tuk-tuk is a car… Officially the UN has agreed that three-wheeled cars can be operated by a person who has a motorcycle driver’s license. But sadly Thailand did not signed all the agreements when it comes to drivers licenses. Recently in Paris, I saw plenty of the 3 wheel Piaggio MP3. Very popular and I was told you can operate on a car license. Probably luring allot of car owners into bike ownership with 3 wheels and ease of purchase without going thru the motorbike license procedure. The tilting front end locks so no need to put feet down. I can see how a three wheeler would be beneficial on those cobble streets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 With a three-wheeler, the definition between being a car and being a motorcycle is the space between the two wheels. For instant a Yamaha Tricity is with its closely spaced front wheels a scooter. But something like a Thai tuk-tuk is a car… Officially the UN has agreed that three-wheeled cars can be operated by a person who has a motorcycle driver’s license. But sadly Thailand did not signed all the agreements when it comes to drivers licenses. Recently in Paris, I saw plenty of the 3 wheel Piaggio MP3. Very popular and I was told you can operate on a car license. Probably luring allot of car owners into bike ownership with 3 wheels and ease of purchase without going thru the motorbike license procedure. The tilting front end locks so no need to put feet down. I can see how a three wheeler would be beneficial on those cobble streets too. The new European regulations establish a common minimum age in all countries for tricycles with power of more than 15 kw; it will be possible to drive these vehicles with an A license (motorcycle) from the age of 21, and in some countries (e.g., Italy, France, Spain, Finland, Czech Republic) with a B license (car), and a minimum age of 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 With a three-wheeler, the definition between being a car and being a motorcycle is the space between the two wheels. For instant a Yamaha Tricity is with its closely spaced front wheels a scooter. But something like a Thai tuk-tuk is a car… Officially the UN has agreed that three-wheeled cars can be operated by a person who has a motorcycle driver’s license. But sadly Thailand did not signed all the agreements when it comes to drivers licenses. Recently in Paris, I saw plenty of the 3 wheel Piaggio MP3. Very popular and I was told you can operate on a car license. Probably luring allot of car owners into bike ownership with 3 wheels and ease of purchase without going thru the motorbike license procedure. The tilting front end locks so no need to put feet down. I can see how a three wheeler would be beneficial on those cobble streets too. The new European regulations establish a common minimum age in all countries for tricycles with power of more than 15 kw; it will be possible to drive these vehicles with an A license (motorcycle) from the age of 21, and in some countries (e.g., Italy, France, Spain, Finland, Czech Republic) with a B license (car), and a minimum age of 21. Richard, what is the current law on 3 wheeled bikes (trikes) in Thailand? I thought they couldn't be slotted into a Thai category so they were illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 With a three-wheeler, the definition between being a car and being a motorcycle is the space between the two wheels. For instant a Yamaha Tricity is with its closely spaced front wheels a scooter. But something like a Thai tuk-tuk is a car… Officially the UN has agreed that three-wheeled cars can be operated by a person who has a motorcycle driver’s license. But sadly Thailand did not signed all the agreements when it comes to drivers licenses. Recently in Paris, I saw plenty of the 3 wheel Piaggio MP3. Very popular and I was told you can operate on a car license. Probably luring allot of car owners into bike ownership with 3 wheels and ease of purchase without going thru the motorbike license procedure. The tilting front end locks so no need to put feet down. I can see how a three wheeler would be beneficial on those cobble streets too. The new European regulations establish a common minimum age in all countries for tricycles with power of more than 15 kw; it will be possible to drive these vehicles with an A license (motorcycle) from the age of 21, and in some countries (e.g., Italy, France, Spain, Finland, Czech Republic) with a B license (car), and a minimum age of 21. Richard, what is the current law on 3 wheeled bikes (trikes) in Thailand? I thought they couldn't be slotted into a Thai category so they were illegal? In Thailand everything depends on the space between the two parallel facing wheels. If the wheels are close enough, like with the Yamaha Tricity the vehicle is seen as a regular 125cc scooter… With a Can-Am Spyder it is seen as a car, hard to tell a Thai to ride in the wind, heat, sun and other weather if he needs a car drivers license anyway… Also a Can-Am Spyder cost more than an average family car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILLIGAD Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 What about these converted bikes? I have been told they are fully legal and green book can be obtained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardokano Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 OP, have you test rode a Toyota bike yet....? you something confused. I'm not a fan of the Toyota as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardokano Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 http://www.toyota-global.com/innovation/personal_mobility/i-road/ ..........A car with 3 wheels.............. OP, where are you....? DL for Bike? so? ps Toyota I-Road 3 Wheeled Motorcycle My Next Motorcycle is a . . . Toyota?http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/03/my-next-motorcycle-is-a-toyota-with-video/ Ok Ok may be u much more "expert" about Toyota..( now even you cnow fuel filter need change wow!! but not without facts and vostroenie them in a logical chain .. You do not believe it. You too often (spetsilyuno or not I do not know) even forget words written less than an hour ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From Wiki - A motorcycle (or motorbike) is a vehicle used to transport people from one place to another. It does not have 4 wheels like a car. It has 2 wheels like a bicycle. But it has a motor like a car. A motorcycle is normally driven by one person. A passenger can also ride on the back of the motorcycle. Some motorcycles have a sidecar that can carry another passenger. And Toyota does not make motorcycles. End of ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From the video the 'wheel looks more like a 'yoke' with limited movement. It is interesting to consider whether the lean is introduced by the rider and the yoke used for balance as in a motorcycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 http://www.toyota-global.com/innovation/personal_mobility/i-road/ ..........A car with 3 wheels.............. OP, where are you....? DL for Bike? so? ps Toyota I-Road 3 Wheeled Motorcycle My Next Motorcycle is a . . . Toyota?http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/03/my-next-motorcycle-is-a-toyota-with-video/ Ok Ok may be u much more "expert" about Toyota..( now even you cnow fuel filter need change wow!! but not without facts and vostroenie them in a logical chain .. You do not believe it. You too often (spetsilyuno or not I do not know) even forget words written less than an hour ago If you read post #10 you will see that it seems to have been classed as a CITY CAR (A) - 3DR HATCHBACK & IS FRONT WHEEL DRIVE. Have you ever seen a FWD motorcycle with a steering wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From Wiki - A motorcycle (or motorbike) is a vehicle used to transport people from one place to another. It does not have 4 wheels like a car. It has 2 wheels like a bicycle. But it has a motor like a car. A motorcycle is normally driven by one person. A passenger can also ride on the back of the motorcycle. Some motorcycles have a sidecar that can carry another passenger. And Toyota does not make motorcycles. End of ... It’s an interesting statement “Toyota doesn’t make motorcycles”, it’s similar as saying Volkswagen doesn’t make Ducati’s… The situation is relative very similar, like Volkswagen who owns Audi and Audi owns Ducati… for Toyota, it owns the majority shares of Yamaha Motor. And for the Chinese hating fan club, even Lifan Group has a good amount of shares, of course nothing compared to what Toyota has… But Lifan makes use of the old Yamaha/V-Star factory in Japan… Yamaha contribute a lot to Toyota as most of the sportier engines in Toyota cars are designed and developed by Yamaha Motor… Toyota contributes to Yamaha mostly with modern production technics… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 http://www.toyota-global.com/innovation/personal_mobility/i-road/ ..........A car with 3 wheels.............. OP, where are you....? DL for Bike? so? ps Toyota I-Road 3 Wheeled Motorcycle My Next Motorcycle is a . . . Toyota?http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/03/my-next-motorcycle-is-a-toyota-with-video/ Ok Ok may be u much more "expert" about Toyota..( now even you cnow fuel filter need change wow!! but not without facts and vostroenie them in a logical chain .. You do not believe it. You too often (spetsilyuno or not I do not know) even forget words written less than an hour ago If you read post #10 you will see that it seems to have been classed as a CITY CAR (A) - 3DR HATCHBACK & IS FRONT WHEEL DRIVE. Have you ever seen a FWD motorcycle with a steering wheel? I think you would have trouble rolling that yoke if you took it off.....a dual bar with handgrips on each side..handlebaryoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 From Wiki - A motorcycle (or motorbike) is a vehicle used to transport people from one place to another. It does not have 4 wheels like a car. It has 2 wheels like a bicycle. But it has a motor like a car. A motorcycle is normally driven by one person. A passenger can also ride on the back of the motorcycle. Some motorcycles have a sidecar that can carry another passenger. And Toyota does not make motorcycles. End of ... It’s an interesting statement “Toyota doesn’t make motorcycles”, it’s similar as saying Volkswagen doesn’t make Ducati’s… The situation is relative very similar, like Volkswagen who owns Audi and Audi owns Ducati… for Toyota, it owns the majority shares of Yamaha Motor. And for the Chinese hating fan club, even Lifan Group has a good amount of shares, of course nothing compared to what Toyota has… But Lifan makes use of the old Yamaha/V-Star factory in Japan… Yamaha contribute a lot to Toyota as most of the sportier engines in Toyota cars are designed and developed by Yamaha Motor… Toyota contributes to Yamaha mostly with modern production technics… Does Toyota have a brand name bike...? No, Toyota doesn’t sell motorcycles with its Toyota brand – but if I needed to select a Toyota motorcycle I would select the Yamaha YZF-R1M as all its carbon-fiber parts are made by Toyota (which is almost the whole bike). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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