ozterix Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Oxygen + Heat + Source = Fire................................................ faulty electric appliance + electric plug + decent wire + fuse box = no problem guess what was missing... or modified... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Most of the great discoveries have been made by academics, or people at least academically inclined. In this case an old man lost his house. I wouldn't have thought that was really so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denkiblue555 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Why didn't he unplug it? I wouldn't be going anywhere near a shorting, sparking, mess like that with any part of my body I value. I'm sure he quickly calculated that his chances of survival were far greater by seeking help...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Any fire insurance? Do the math... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Why didn't he unplug it?Apparently used up all his knowledge plugging it in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? Don't encourage the natives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Intriguing headline - and article. A mix of British and American spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 HOW to piss of your neighbours burn their houses down, well i can see where the headline was alluding to, you would have thought he had a brain but we know taxi drivers haven't Is that right.I suppose you know every road in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerver Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Why didn't he unplug it? Next question - why didn't the circuit breaker popped open (disconnected)??? Maybe his house like so many others in Thailand still have the old type fuse from years before with the 10Amp wire inside which people after it blows the wire wrap with aluminum foil from a cigarette package in which case it will take hundreds of Amps to blow and burn down the place. Or maybe he put a nail in the place of the fuse, another famous Thai trick. Don't ever say Thais aren't ingenious. Edited July 27, 2016 by swerver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyman Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? It's the last thing I would do: to trow water on an burning electrical appliance! Better trow a blanket on it. Me too, as water is a great conductor of electric current, if not the greatest. The water was meant to be thrown on the bed, on the curtains, on surrounding furniture and if wooden, on the floor, obviously...........Einstein ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hmmm....fire extinguisher anyone? Now now. What was I thinking....a safety anticipation? Not here TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Hi What reason was there to point out that he was a math teacher in the headline? Seriously? The story would have been just as "interesting" if it was a taxi driver.I think being a retired Maths Teacher from Assumption, the reporter was trying to point out that the said person should have had more brains. Yeah 63 year old retirees make mistakes. Just like many of the geniuses on this forum do. I'm sure we've all plugged in an appliance, unaware that it was faulty, only to either find it no longer works and/or that it trips a circuit breaker/fuse. Thankfully that's usually the extent of what happens. We don't usually experience sparks flying about igniting flammable objects nearby. Apparently he didn't have a fire extinguisher available and ran out of the house to seek help and alert neighbors. Fire started by faulty appliances are, unfortunately, fairly common. Based on what was written I don't see that having "more brains," aside from being a meaningless comment, would have resulted in a different result under the circumstance. As far as I know, people have only one brain and the option to have more of them is not currently available. Obviously the choice of headlines was intended, successfully, to produce the anticipated responses about things adding up or calculating or being factored in, etc. Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? Throw water on an electrical fire? Wrong wrong! And have a chat with a genuine fire fighter... Dry wood structures can go up in flames in mere minutes! Edited July 27, 2016 by jerojero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Most of the government housing are death traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? You do not throw water on an electrical fire here as you will have live wires and risk electrocution. Need to turn off at main breaker, then you can use water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3030 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? It's the last thing I would do: to trow water on an burning electrical appliance! Better trow a blanket on it. Me too, as water is a great conductor of electric current, if not the greatest.The water was meant to be thrown on the bed, on the curtains, on surrounding furniture and if wooden, on the floor, obviously...........Einstein ! Look at what you wrote! You would run to the bathroom, and get some water.. And gave a reason, for getting the water.. "A fire will not ignite!" You said the teacher, wasn't very clever. What does that make you? Edited July 28, 2016 by D3030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Why didn't he unplug it? ....no calculus + the multiplication factor - no commonsense = disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Why not run to the bathroom to get some water? That would be my first thought, a fire does not ignite and burns down a house in a few seconds only, I agree with some of the posters that running out and leave the fire to spread at will was at least not really clever, was it? It's the last thing I would do: to trow water on an burning electrical appliance! Better trow a blanket on it. Easy and very quick to unplug first. No high energy elec potential stored in a fan, so ok to unplug then throw water.But the night here, is the notion that a fan would spark so much as to create a very fast total burn down fire...hhmmm. where did the sparks go? Did they fly off in all directions and by shear bad luck all land on super ready primed surfaces to ignite? That's one hell of a death trap. Can't see it all kicking off so fast. Maybe the guy fell asleep for some significant time, whilst things slowly took hold? Edited July 28, 2016 by BlindMagician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 ....another person with a title..... ....and another 'top' organization...... ...jeez.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3030 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) ....another person with a title..... ....and another 'top' organization...... ...jeez.... Sounds about right..Less educated people, do expect smarter and more successful people to never do wrong. How dare a retired teacher, from a top school, make a huge mistake reserved for less educated people. With no common sense.. Edited July 28, 2016 by D3030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mca Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 "Several pet dogs and cats were saved in one of the properties while others are missing, believed to have fled the scene" You would think so Yeah they'd hardly stay behind, don cute little firemen's helmets and attempt to put out the blaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 What reason was there to point out that he was a math teacher in the headline? Seriously? The story would have been just as "interesting" if it was a taxi driver. Disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 What reason was there to point out that he was a math teacher in the headline? Seriously? The story would have been just as "interesting" if it was a taxi driver. Disagree! Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Why didn't he unplug it? whaaaa....huh ? me ? how ? wase'nt there . did'nt do it , dunno , who you ? ima ima ima ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Oxygen + Heat + Source = Fire................................................ Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 On 7/28/2016 at 0:21 PM, BlindMagician said: Easy and very quick to unplug first. No high energy elec potential stored in a fan, so ok to unplug then throw water. But the night here, is the notion that a fan would spark so much as to create a very fast total burn down fire...hhmmm. where did the sparks go? Did they fly off in all directions and by shear bad luck all land on super ready primed surfaces to ignite? That's one hell of a death trap. Can't see it all kicking off so fast. Maybe the guy fell asleep for some significant time, whilst things slowly took hold? Obviously you have never used an electric arc welder,,,,,the heat from the current is instant.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 15 hours ago, Mudcrab said: Obviously you have never used an electric arc welder,,,,,the heat from the current is instant.... Actually I have, and other types of welding, and lots of other machines, fire arms under pro military training, piloted a ferry, even used an awesome screwdriver and paperclips, but unfortunately for you, we're talking about a FAN .... yes ... a FAN ... got it muggins? Keep it real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 On 8/3/2016 at 5:39 PM, BlindMagician said: Actually I have, and other types of welding, and lots of other machines, fire arms under pro military training, piloted a ferry, even used an awesome screwdriver and paperclips, but unfortunately for you, we're talking about a FAN .... yes ... a FAN ... got it muggins? Keep it real. And what is the instantaneous current draw from a short circuit of any kind. Its only limited by the impedance of the conductor supplying the current...which can be,for the uninformed, very, very high well into the KA range Unlike you I do have some experience in electrical engineering.....43 years as of this year. And if you insist on calling me muggins..please add BSc to the muggins part...thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 You've lost the plot. Look back at the OP and the claims, and try to stay within the realms of reality not some fictitious circumstances. BSc eh...lofty heights..you must be proud. Get a first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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