webfact Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Israel kills Hamas fighter it holds responsible for rabbi’s murderJERUSALEM: -- Israel says it has killed the Hamas fighter responsible for an ambush earlier this month in which a rabbi was shot dead.Video released by the Israeli military shows an overnight raid in the occupied West Bank as forces targeted a house where several suspects were believed to be hiding.Residents in the Palestinian village of Surif near the city of Hebron reported lengthy exchanges of fire between Israeli forces and gunmen.One said the military surrounded the village for eight hours and cut off the electricity.The house targeted and damaged during the fighting, was then demolished by an Israeli bulldozer.Hamas identified the man who died in the raid as Mohammad al-Fakih, saying he was a member of its armed wing.Israeli forces also reportedly arrested three people as well as killing the man they hold responsible for the rabbi’s murder.Miki Mark, a 48-year-old father of ten, was killed in the drive-by shooting. His wife and two teenage children were wounded.Since last September more than 30 Israelis have lost their lives in Palestinian attacks. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-07-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The Israelis get rid of another murdering terrorist. Justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardrunner Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xineohp Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east As they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. One suspects that for every Palestinian that Israel kills another ten will pop up somewhere else doing exactly the same thing. Their motivation is no less strong for a Palestinian homeland than it was seventy years ago when the Jews wanted a Jewish homeland. Edited July 28, 2016 by xineohp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyWarbucks Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east That sums it up. One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. This mindless cycle of violence won't end until Israel stops building illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyWarbucks Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east As they say, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. One suspects that for every Palestinian that Israel kills another ten will pop up somewhere else doing exactly the same thing. Their motivation is no less strong for a Palestinian homeland than it was seventy years ago when the Jews wanted a Jewish homeland. Good post... you beat me to it by one minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east It was a drive by shooting of a rabbi with his family in the car. A rabbi. Not a soldier. Dude, that was a terrorist attack. Suggesting any equivalence to the French resistance against the Nazis -- very, very, sleazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyWarbucks Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east It was a drive by shooting of a rabbi with his family in the car. A rabbi. Not a soldier. Dude, that was a terrorist attack. Suggesting any equivalence to the French resistance against the Nazis -- very, very, sleazy. Some rabbis are soldiers; some are illegal settlers living on Palestinian land. As such, they would be in harm's way just as German military chaplains were in France during WWII. The implied comparison with the French Resistance is valid. There is nothing sleazy about bringing up a legitimate point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landslide Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east The French Resistance did not target civilian families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east The French Resistance did not target civilian families. But this is nothing new. We see this constantly. The obsessive Israel demonization agenda (targeting the faults of Israel way out of proportion to much worse faults of numerous other nations) basically cheerleading for terrorists, murderers of civilians, such as the teenage Jewish girl murdered in her bedroom. For that agenda, terrorism is justified as "freedom fighting" if the Jews are in the west bank but often the cheerleading extends towards Jews in "regular" Israel as well. Edited July 28, 2016 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east That sums it up. One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. This mindless cycle of violence won't end until Israel stops building illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land. So original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. "Freedom fighters" attack military targets. Islamic terrorists almost exclusively attack innocent civilians. There is no legitimate comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. "Freedom fighters" attack military targets. Islamic terrorists almost exclusively attack innocent civilians. There is no legitimate comparison. Fanatical Zionist illegal colonizers , who carry guns, deliberately living on stolen Palestinian land in the West Bank driving resident Palestinians into refugee camps are not innocent civilians. Edited July 29, 2016 by dexterm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 " Israel kills Hamas fighter " He was a Terrorist, not a fighter, and Hamas is a terrorists organization, not better than the people how killed scores all over Europe, and it's about time, these rats will named correctly..... That is your opinion, just as members of the French resistance were treated as terrorists by the Germans in WW 11 but as heroes and martyrs by the allies, until both sides can get round a table and come to some agreement these killings will continue and as long as the extremists on both sides are in control there is no chance of peace in the middle east That sums it up. One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. This mindless cycle of violence won't end until Israel stops building illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land. So original. Sadly, as original as the events described - further Israeli transgressions and humiliations of the Palestinian people leading to them to perpetrate atrocities, thus giving the Israeli right wing further justification to pocket billions of US dollars and expand further their illegal occupation and apartheid actions on innocent civilians whose only crimes was to be born Palestinian in a land where the fascist former Europeans think that a millennial old fairy tale gives them the right to evict, debase and kill those with genuine and hitoric links to the area. Check back tomorrow for more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 An off-topic post has been removed. I think we have head enough about freedom fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Sadly, as original as the events described - further Israeli transgressions and humiliations of the Palestinian people leading to them to perpetrate atrocities, thus giving the Israeli right wing further justification to pocket billions of US dollars and expand further their illegal occupation and apartheid actions on innocent civilians whose only crimes was to be born Palestinian in a land where the fascist former Europeans think that a millennial old fairy tale gives them the right to evict, debase and kill those with genuine and hitoric links to the area. Check back tomorrow for more of the same. Israel was formed 68 years ago. Those born there since then have as much right, if not more, to a home than someone born elsewhere claiming historic links, as they also have historic links just as valid. But try telling that to a Palestinian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Sadly, as original as the events described - further Israeli transgressions and humiliations of the Palestinian people leading to them to perpetrate atrocities, thus giving the Israeli right wing further justification to pocket billions of US dollars and expand further their illegal occupation and apartheid actions on innocent civilians whose only crimes was to be born Palestinian in a land where the fascist former Europeans think that a millennial old fairy tale gives them the right to evict, debase and kill those with genuine and hitoric links to the area. Check back tomorrow for more of the same. Israel was formed 68 years ago. Those born there since then have as much right, if not more, to a home than someone born elsewhere claiming historic links, as they also have historic links just as valid. But try telling that to a Palestinian. Israeli authorities on the flimsiest of pretexts will deny residence to Palestinians born in Palestine who even take study scholarships overseas, but will grant instant citizenship to any Jew worldwide on the strength of their tenuous religious connection who have never set eyes on the place before. Blatant racism. That's what Zionism does.That's the racism/religionist supremacism that I object to. IsraeliJews have plenty of homes to go to, including the ones registered on their passports or their [grand]parents' to which they are entitled. Palestinians have no such luxury. I hope one day they share the entire land together. It is a geographic inevitability. Israel at the moment is pure colonialization. Just like Canada, the USA, Australia, NZ, South Africa dispossessing the resident people to make room for European immigrants. It's about time Israelis came honestly to terms with what they have done to the resident Palestinian population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. "Freedom fighters" attack military targets. Islamic terrorists almost exclusively attack innocent civilians. There is no legitimate comparison. Fanatical Zionist illegal colonizers , who carry guns, deliberately living on stolen Palestinian land in the West Bank driving resident Palestinians into refugee camps are not innocent civilians. I am pretty sure that young children and babies are not carrying guns, yet they are targeted by Islamic terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. "Freedom fighters" attack military targets. Islamic terrorists almost exclusively attack innocent civilians. There is no legitimate comparison. Fanatical Zionist illegal colonizers , who carry guns, deliberately living on stolen Palestinian land in the West Bank driving resident Palestinians into refugee camps are not innocent civilians. I am pretty sure that young children and babies are not carrying guns, yet they are targeted by Islamic terrorists. I agree ..anyone who deliberately targets innocent children and babies is a terrorist...be he a Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist. Google images: Palestinian children dead to fully comprehend what we are discussing here. Edited July 29, 2016 by dexterm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 DELIBERATELY is the key word. Israel does not. Palestinian terrorists DO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyWarbucks Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 The horrific killings of both Jews and Palestinians described in this thread were provoked by illegal settlement building and occupation of Palestinian land. As of this week the Jpost reports that 323 housing units are planned for East Jerusalem; 770 for Gilo; 531 for Ma'ale Adumim; 19 for Har Homa; 120 for Ramot; 30 for Pisgat Ze'ev; and 42 for Kiryat Arba. It couldn't be more obvious who is to blame for this endless cycle of illegal settlement and bloody conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) DELIBERATELY is the key word. Israel does not. Palestinian terrorists DO. Israeli and Palestinian casualties September 29, 2000 - Present 134 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians 2,134 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis 1,207 Israelis and at least 9,410 Palestinians killed 11,710 Israelis and 91,139 Palestinians injured http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ The IDF is the only army in Palestine.... the ones with all the modern pinpoint accuracy weaponry. ...Go figure the truth! Edited July 29, 2016 by dexterm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyWarbucks Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 DELIBERATELY is the key word. Israel does not. Palestinian terrorists DO. Israeli and Palestinian casualties September 29, 2000 - Present 134 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians 2,134 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis 1,207 Israelis and at least 9,410 Palestinians killed 11,710 Israelis and 91,139 Palestinians injured http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ Go figure the truth! No amount of propaganda could make those figures look good for Israel. Thanks for putting an end to this bosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) I agree ..anyone who deliberately targets innocent children and babies is a terrorist...be he a Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist. Indeed. Civilians are often killed in combat, but civilized people do not do it ON PURPOSE. Israel's policy is to avoid killing civilians as much as possible, whereas the Palestinian terrorists make no apology for their attacks on civilians, and purposely target them, Israel always investigates the reasons for any errors and takes steps to prevent them from reoccurring. Palestinian terrorists have deliberately targeted children in numerous attacks, recently and in years past. The children were not accidental victims, but were intentionally shot or bombed. For example: March 5, 2003, Palestinian terrorists chose to bomb Bus 37 in Haifa shortly after school let out. The bus is on a school route and 9 schoolchildren were among the 17 killed in that attack. Dozens of children were wounded.December 3, 2003, Palestinian terrorists planned to blow up schoolchildren at the Ort Alon High School in Yokneam, the sister city of St. Louis. Thankfully, due to Israeli intelligence sources and the security fence, the Israelis were able to catch the bombers before they reached the school.On May 2, 2004, terrorists ambushed the car of Tali Hatuel, who was 9 months pregnant, and shot her and her four young daughters, aged 2, 7, 9 and 11. It was daylight and the terrorists obviously knew they were killing four small children because they shot them all at point blank range. http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=756 Edited July 29, 2016 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I agree ..anyone who deliberately targets innocent children and babies is a terrorist...be he a Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist. Indeed. Civilians are often killed in combat, but civilized people do not do it ON PURPOSE. Israel's policy is to avoid killing civilians as much as possible, whereas the Palestinian terrorists make no apology for their attacks on civilians, and purposely target them, Israel always investigates the reasons for any errors and takes steps to prevent them from reoccurring. Palestinian terrorists have deliberately targeted children in numerous attacks, recently and in years past. The children were not accidental victims, but were intentionally shot or bombed. For example: March 5, 2003, Palestinian terrorists chose to bomb Bus 37 in Haifa shortly after school let out. The bus is on a school route and 9 schoolchildren were among the 17 killed in that attack. Dozens of children were wounded.December 3, 2003, Palestinian terrorists planned to blow up schoolchildren at the Ort Alon High School in Yokneam, the sister city of St. Louis. Thankfully, due to Israeli intelligence sources and the security fence, the Israelis were able to catch the bombers before they reached the school.On May 2, 2004, terrorists ambushed the car of Tali Hatuel, who was 9 months pregnant, and shot her and her four young daughters, aged 2, 7, 9 and 11. It was daylight and the terrorists obviously knew they were killing four small children because they shot them all at point blank range. http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=2&x_article=756 >>Israel's policy is to avoid killing civilians as much as possible, whereas the Palestinian terrorists make no apology for their attacks on civilians, and purposely target them, Israel always investigates the reasons for any errors and takes steps to prevent them from reoccurring. ..well, they obviously ain't doing a very good job of it are they! The IDF killing children at a ratio of 16:1. Words and whitewash are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Unfortunate casualties of war. Israel actually has one of the best records in the world for avoiding civilian casualties. If Hamas would stop shooting rockets into civilian communities, Israel would not be forced to respond. The Palestinians are their own worst enemies. Edited July 30, 2016 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterTee Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Unfortunate casualties of war. Israel actually has one of the best records in the world for avoiding civilian casualties. If Hamas would stop shooting rockets into civilian communities, Israel would not be forced to respond. The Palestinians are their own worst enemies. That totally ignores the building of illegal settlements and the occupation of Palestinian land that provokes the violence in the first place. Why can't Israel live within their 1967 borders? When and where will their land grabs end? The stated goal of a two-state solution is a transparent deception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Actually the Palestinians started the violence back in the beginning of last century and have never stopped since. The settlements are just a convenient excuse to keep up what they have been doing all along. If it was not that. It would be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 When and where will their land grabs end? . When the Palestinians finally agree to make peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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