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32 minutes ago, Alive said:

I don't think Trump denies that this Muslim soldier deserves respect. The anti-Trump people say Trumps a racist and anti-Muslim but the evidence of his life doesn't support that. He's a terrible candidate and horrible with speeches but he isn't as the left is making him out to be. I don't want him as president because he is a sociopath and megalomanic but he isn't racist or against Muslims. He has businesses in Muslim countries and plenty of Black, Asian and even Hispanic people support him. His problem is he is a typical stupid American white man who is full of himself and who is too stubborn to admit he's wrong just like so many of us arguing here.

No, the evidence of his life supports he is a racist.

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2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

I don't Twitter.

Do you?

A greiving parent would be well reminded that if they toss their son's corpse into the political landscape then its going to be played by anyone and everyone.

now it appears this Khan family has a very strong political agenda and ties to the DNC.

Their Son deserves every Americans respect and gratitude.

No parent should suffer the loss of their child. 

A wise parent grieves in silence and not on the National stage where Dems exploit the fallen soldier as much as Trump.

 

The son and the parents are Muslims.  And American.  Trump has insulted Muslims time and time again.  The parents do have a case because Trump isn't just insulting them and their religion, but the memory of their dead son as well.  And hiding behind this "radical Muslim" nonsense doesn't cut it. 

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7 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

Trump was like a speeding locomotive at the Republican Debates laying waste to anyone in his way.

Now he appears to have lept from the locomotive and directly in front of the tracks and is being run over by the very same locomotive.

The GOP machine needs to figure out a way to replace Trump fast.

Too many voters will forget we are voting for the party platform and vision for the future and not for this lunatic.

Your voting for a run away train with no engineer at the controls. Yes I get what your saying. 

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The really sad part is that Bush under a shroud of chickanery and with the help of the Supreme Court became president and then launched his illegal war against Iraq. Had history followed its rightful course and Gore would have assumed the presidency this young lad would be alive and well today. Lets not forget who the true villain is in this case. 

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2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

A wise parent grieves in silence and not on the National stage where Dems exploit the fallen soldier as much as Trump.

An angry parent gets offended when a draft dodging coward impugns the religion and patriotism of their dead soldier son.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Man, you've totally lost the plot.  They are not "equally do nothings."  One lost a son--in the service of his country--the other did not.  And if you don't think that those who died on the battlefield are heroes....lordy.

 

He made no mention of those who died on any battlefield. You are the only one who has said that he does not think battlefield deaths are heroes, he claimed no such thing, did he? You have tried to put words in his mouth and have failed.

All over the world young men join the military for adventure and to be able to play with guns. They only become heroes in the real sense of the word when they engage the enemy on the battlefield.

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6 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

He made no mention of those who died on any battlefield. You are the only one who has said that he does not think battlefield deaths are heroes, he claimed no such thing, did he? You have tried to put words in his mouth and have failed.

All over the world young men join the military for adventure and to be able to play with guns. They only become heroes in the real sense of the word when they engage the enemy on the battlefield.

He said "Many who join the military just want the action and opportunity to fight and shoot people. I don't agree with the bs hero idea."  Whether he's talking about those who died or not, it's not clear.  But you chose to believe what you want to believe.  You sound like a Trump supporter.  My condolences.  

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"The family attacked Trump and he attacked back. I cannot say that I really blame him. Most politicians would not have done it for political considerations, but he is not most politicians".

Very difficult for some folk to convince others of their point of view when they have a history of religious and ethnic bigotry

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1 hour ago, Chicog said:

An angry parent gets offended when a draft dodging coward impugns the religion and patriotism of their dead soldier son.

 

 

Absolutely, and a wise parent does not place their fallen soldier child in a position to be impugned.

 

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Just now, ClutchClark said:

Absolutely, and a wise parent does not place their fallen soldier child in a position to be impugned.

 

 

Oh really? So should they have stopped him being Muslim or stopped him dying in service? Or both?

 

 

 


 

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Once again Trump both controls the media narrative and reduces it to the level of the playground. He has done this consistently since his entry into the political arena.

He has no policies and no experience and no wish for the voters to focus on that so he just starts one playground name-calling spat after another.

It is depressing stuff.

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1 hour ago, elgordo38 said:

Your voting for a run away train with no engineer at the controls. Yes I get what your saying. 

Actuslly I am voting for the Company who owns the track that the Trump train is riding on. 

The GOP.

Trump is a disaster.

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7 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

Actuslly I am voting for the Company who owns the track that the Trump train is riding on. 

The GOP.

Trump is a disaster.

Unfortunately he's driving the train, not riding it.

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37 minutes ago, xineohp said:

"The family attacked Trump and he attacked back. I cannot say that I really blame him. Most politicians would not have done it for political considerations, but he is not most politicians".

Very difficult for some folk to convince others of their point of view when they have a history of religious and ethnic bigotry

What to expect from a "whining little bitch"?

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1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

He said "Many who join the military just want the action and opportunity to fight and shoot people. I don't agree with the bs hero idea."  Whether he's talking about those who died or not, it's not clear.  But you chose to believe what you want to believe.  You sound like a Trump supporter.  My condolences.  

Whether I support Trump or not is neither here nor there.

The issue is who said that those who die on battlefields are heroes or not. He said no such thing but you implied that those were his sentiments, here are your actual words,

"And if you don't think that those who died on the battlefield are heroes....lordy."

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4 hours ago, PTC said:

 

I wonder if Stephanopolos' question to Trump about sacrifice http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/30/trump-says-hes-made-a-lot-of-sacrifices-in-response-to-khizr-khans-blistering-dnc-speech.html could be directed to the Trump fanboys themselves. It is clear that the only thing they think they have sacrificed is their sense of entitlement in favor of affirmative action, respect for diversity and inclusivity.

 

This is what Governor Kasich said about how to talk about Gold Star families 

 

Pray for his family? 

What the hell for?

I sure like Kasich but what the hell is he praying for?

That the Khans will become Republicans? 

Their Son is dead...and prayer is not going to bring him back.

 

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4 hours ago, PTC said:

 

I wonder if Stephanopolos' question to Trump about sacrifice http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/30/trump-says-hes-made-a-lot-of-sacrifices-in-response-to-khizr-khans-blistering-dnc-speech.html could be directed to the Trump fanboys themselves. It is clear that the only thing they think they have sacrificed is their sense of entitlement in favor of affirmative action, respect for diversity and inclusivity.

 

This is what Governor Kasich said about how to talk about Gold Star families 

 

BTW, great mastery of this new TVF format and the quotes.

 

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16 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

^^^

If only ireason were capable of posting without the immature name-calling then he might actually get a direct response. 

 

Struth! I though you were referring to Donald Trump. But no, not at all!  What a tangled web we weave.......

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Trump is acting like the village idiot at a youth league baseball game who starts hollering at parents of the other team. When a father with the team that is ahead tells Trump to read the rulebook Trump tells the guy his ears are big. When the wife stands by silently Trump bellows at her that she is pathetic. 

When all the parents stir and tell Trump to sit down, Trump tells 'em he donated to the league when everyone knows Trump is in fact lying. Then the game is over so Trump goes home to bellow some more from Twitter.

Donald Trump is the guy who always needs to be escorted off the premises, but most of the time he's the guy who needs to get the bum's rush.

Coming November 8th.

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Of course Donald Trump has sacrificed so much over the years. Certainly enough to justify his considered comparison of his sacrifice to that of the deceased Army Captain and his saddened, grieving but proud parents. How could anyone overlook and underrate the sacrifice of dignity, respect, coherence, empathy and, let's face it, any semblance of rationality? I would like to think that it was and is very difficult for Donald Trump to sacrifice all these things, but alas, I have read enough from his supporters here to know that such sacrifice is very, very easy.

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10 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

The family attacked Trump and he attacked back. I cannot say that I really blame him. Most politicians would not have done it for political considerations, but he is not most politicians.

Quite right. I expect the Dems ( DWS would have arranged it before she got the boot ) knew the reaction they would get so they cynically exploited the parents grief and gave him the script ( possibly the constitution as well ) to attack Trump. Unfortunately, Trump got this one wrong. So many people hate him, one more is meaningless.

However, by attacking Trump, the father lost his expectation of respect. He was exploited and probably doesn't even know it.

The Dems will obviously use anyone to try and win at any cost.

It won't make any difference in the end, the troops know who has their backs and it isn't the one in a pants suit. The rest of Trump's supporters know that it was a cynical set up. No one is not voting Trump because of it.

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2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Quite right. I expect the Dems ( DWS would have arranged it before she got the boot ) knew the reaction they would get so they cynically exploited the parents grief and gave him the script ( possibly the constitution as well ) to attack Trump. Unfortunately, Trump got this one wrong. So many people hate him, one more is meaningless.

However, by attacking Trump, the father lost his expectation of respect. He was exploited and probably doesn't even know it.

The Dems will obviously use anyone to try and win at any cost.

It won't make any difference in the end, the troops know who has their backs and it isn't the one in a pants suit. The rest of Trump's supporters know that it was a cynical set up. No one is not voting Trump because of it.

It's amazing how unconscious some people are.  Was it the Democrats who had Pat Smith, the mother of one of the people slain in Benghazi, speak at their convention? I thought it was at some other convention. My mistake.

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6 hours ago, PTC said:

 

I wonder if Stephanopolos' question to Trump about sacrifice http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/30/trump-says-hes-made-a-lot-of-sacrifices-in-response-to-khizr-khans-blistering-dnc-speech.html could be directed to the Trump fanboys themselves. It is clear that the only thing they think they have sacrificed is their sense of entitlement in favor of affirmative action, respect for diversity and inclusivity.

 

This is what Governor Kasich said about how to talk about Gold Star families

 

10% Kasich is just a loser that is sore at Trump for destroying him in the primaries. He is dishonourable for not honouring his commitment to support the winner of the primaries. I have no respect for losers like him.

Only the usual people are attacking Trump over this. His supporters don't care.

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3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

It's amazing how unconscious some people are.  Was it the Democrats who had Pat Smith, the mother of one of the people slain in Benghazi, speak at their convention? I thought it was at some other convention. My mistake.

She didn't need to be given a script, and she probably volunteered to do it.

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2 hours ago, iReason said:

The deflecting Lemmings are getting downright manic in their desperate defense of the Five Time Draft Dodging Bloviator.

Donald Trump’s Draft Deferments: Four for College, One for Bad Feet :clap2:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html?_r=0

Ya got nothin'.

:cheesy:

 

 

Dems can't talk about serving.

 

Bill Clinton- no

HRC- no

Obama- no

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