Alarm as Toxic Chemical Waste is Dumped in Bang Lamung

[BrianMc]

I think they should check the drum numbers against the company numbers in Rayong that makes the chemical.

But I forgot its Thailand ?????

[elgordo38]

34 minutes ago, swerver said:

 

 

Interesting twenty four post and few of them clicking the Like this button what happen to all these farang on this forum

The 3-monkeys on Post 25 says it perfectly well but the fourth monkey is missing the one with its hands holding its crotch.

Anyhow this is not a Thailand ONLY problem the west is riddled with similar problems. For a starter Michigan water supply poisoned comes to mind and now they're are in the process of discovering a slew of other cities in Exceptionalistan.  It all fits in with  fascist capitalist Planet Earth overpopulation reduction.

I will give the like to you because you have exposed similar problems in the world and the disaster in Michigan is just the tip of the iceberg of the same problem throughout the whole country and the world. We have been taking Mother Earth for granted to long and used her as a waste receptacle and she has had enough of our nonsense. 

[Golden Triangle]

I appreciate that flytipping is a worldwide problem, when I lived in the UK I drove to work through lovely countryside and actually passed the local recycling plant, you could guarantee that either on may way to work or going home I would see bags of household or builders waste on the side of the road, within minutes of the recycling plant.

 

Same here in Thailand, we went out yesterday and took a shortcut through the back roads to avoid some roadworks, what did we see ? literally tons of rubbish just thrown onto the side of the road, and again we were within minutes of the local landfill site.

 

Why do people want to deface their beautiful country in such a way is beyond me. 

[oldsailor35]

I don't read anything about removing these drums yet, or if they are going to place them on plastic to stop leaching into the ground.  I suppose they want to find out who is going to cover the cost first !

[oldlakey]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

 

Yes shocking,  aren't we the lucky one's though that they would never dream of doing such a thing in the West?

Nice try but its not the dumping, because there are irresponsible scumbags everywhere who do that

Its the action taken by the relevant authorities after the event that counts

This of course involves a bit more than just looking the other way while inserting one / two fingers up their anus

[johng]

23 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

when I lived in the UK I drove to work through lovely countryside and actually passed the local recycling plant,

 

Years ago you could give the "dustman"  just about anything and they would gladly take it  if not the
"rag and bone man" would...now you're lucky if he council will provide a yearly skip to throw your waste away

but not TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters and a ever growing list

so you try and take that stuff to the council approved tip...they wont let you in in a van and as a resident you can only bring 2 car loads per month...ohh and they wont except TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters !!!

 

If they want to stop people dumping why do they make it so difficult to dispose of waste properly ?

 

As for Thailand /Pattaya  a lot of stuff is  unofficially recycled  collected by the "garbage pickers"  and sold to various  middlemen recyclers around the area...

I asked before and don't think anyone  did answer   where is the official waste disposal/ rubbish dump for the Pattaya area ?   google map would be lovely thanks.

 

 

[Golden Triangle]

35 minutes ago, johng said:

 

 

I asked before and don't think anyone  did answer   where is the official waste disposal/ rubbish dump for the Pattaya area ?   google map would be lovely thanks.

 

 

 

Google The Birdcage, if you keep the Birdcage on your right the landfill is on the left hand side, maybe 300 meters or so. 

Edited August 29, 2016 by Golden Triangle

[oldlakey]

1 hour ago, Suradit69 said:

 

There may have been a hint of self-deprecating sarcasm in what they said.  Sarcasm seems to fly over the heads of many TV posters who take everything in print literally.

A very subtle hint I would suggest

I like to answer your posts on occasion only because they do amuse me although I do realize I should ignore them

[KenKadz]

"dumped near a water source in Tamon Ban Pong, Banglamung."

Curious to know how this water source is used.

Is it pumped and/or trucked into Pattaya for consumption?

Is it used by local companies to make bottled water?

If it is hazardous isn't more information warranted?

[off road pat]

5 hours ago, eliotness said:

Should be easy to find where the drums came from,  i.e. imported drums usually have markings on showing origin.  Then check at customs to find out which company imported them.  I guess that will be a wholesaler.  Then check which factories bought large quantities of the chemical.  Check the companies' (probably several) disposal records.  Worldwide in such matters  it's the company paid to dispose of the wastes that's "taken a short- cut" and simply dumped the waste after charging the producer for proper treatment and disposal.  Not difficult to investigate if the right people are used and the authorities have the determination to solve this "environmental crime". ?

(I guess) Here just like in the west they use legit companies that take care of chemical waste. These companies are almost always related to criminal organizations, and change name often. so the company that hand's over there chemical waist to those companies always washes it's hands in innocence !!!!

[Shawn0000]

52 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Years ago you could give the "dustman"  just about anything and they would gladly take it  if not the
"rag and bone man" would...now you're lucky if he council will provide a yearly skip to throw your waste away

but not TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters and a ever growing list

so you try and take that stuff to the council approved tip...they wont let you in in a van and as a resident you can only bring 2 car loads per month...ohh and they wont except TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters !!!

 

If they want to stop people dumping why do they make it so difficult to dispose of waste properly ?

 

As for Thailand /Pattaya  a lot of stuff is  unofficially recycled  collected by the "garbage pickers"  and sold to various  middlemen recyclers around the area...

I asked before and don't think anyone  did answer   where is the official waste disposal/ rubbish dump for the Pattaya area ?   google map would be lovely thanks.

 

 

 

In the EU you are supposed to give all those hazardous things to the retailer where you bought the replacement, the only issue should be if you did not buy a new one.

[johng]

40 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Google The Birdcage, if you keep the Birdcage on your right the landfill is on the left hand side

well google map doesn't seem to have the birdcage  I'm assuming you mean the birdcage on Soi Khoa talo  and not the gay bar in South Pattaya.. the nearest bar marked on google would seem to  be Full moon bar  dont see anything like a dump site on the satellite view.

 

[eddie61]

at least the name of the tambon is apt......

[drgoon]

7 hours ago, cumgranosalum said:

"A crack team of Pattaya One scientists, co-ordinating with US researchers at Google, can confirm." - so they googled it.

 

 

Yeah..  had to laugh at that. 

 

I would like to see their credentials 555...  probably more in line with crack than science.

[LUSHGOAT]

There seems to be labels on the drums there will be serial no's and batch no's go to the company who sold the product and trace what company bought them and fine them a good few millions. More than likely some ass wipe was given the job of disposing of these drums and dumped there. Hope they find the culprits 

Edited August 29, 2016 by LUSHGOAT

[Jonmarleesco]

8 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

They don't yet know what's actually in these drums....apart from the labels.....could be anything at all........

But how typical of people here,  to just dump their garbage anywhere?

Not just here - but here is where they will hope to get away with it.

[SOTIRIOS]

...how about giving us an exact location....???

 

...near some areas in Bangkok or where....???

 

...come on ....!!

[Dumbastheycome]

Sad fact that Thailand has succumbed to the  global problem.

But at least  drums do not  move  around. The walking waste bothers me as much.

[Krataiboy]

Well, at least it wasn't agent orange.

[KBsinter]

The full moon bar is next door to the birdcage,keeping them on your right you go around 

a sharpish bend, about 300 yards on your left, was a huge hole once apon a time.

if you see a 7/11. go back 100 yds,(you missed it)

Edited August 29, 2016 by KBsinter
some instructions added

[The manic]

Just like Europe where the Italian Mafia have been dumping toxic chemicals for decades.

[webfact]

Illegal Dumpers Will Be Fined

Report by Pattaya One News Team

 

 

PATTAYA: -- On August 28 Pattaya One reported that fifty barrels of toxic chemical waste had been dumped near a water source in Banglamung.

 

Yesterday Mr. Tawitch Chaisawangwong, former President of Pattaya City Council, and who is the landowner, joined the investigation.

 

The land is still quarantined and will remain that way for three more weeks until the results of an lab investigation are known. A sample has been sent to find out if the substance is actually Styrene Monomer, as it is printed on the barrells.

 

If the substance turns out to be something else, and illegal, then the fly-tippers will face a 200,000 baht fine and up to two years in jail.

 

Officers have been instructed to remove the barrels from the clean water source area.

 

Full story: http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/230995/illegal-dumpers-will-fined/

 

-- © Copyright Pattaya One 2016-08-30

[eliotness]

So what about the contaminated ground, which was reported as "a sandpit".  The report states "a sample has been sent" hopefully to a lab with a GCMS which can identify the organic chemical(s), but how do they know all 50 or so drums contain the same chemical, or even mixture of chemicals.  I would suggest that the drums would not contain pure styrene monomer because if so then why throw them away.  I guess the specialists sent to investigate weren't that special after all.  Sounds like this is being done on the cheap as several posters have suggested.  Just glad my groundwater well is no where near that site.

[eliotness]

A fine of 200,000 baht is so funny it's actually not funny.  Such a sum couldn't even begin to address a environmentally sound clean-up.  I hope that's an error in the report, but somehow I think it's not ?

[harada]

And when they've cleaned this lot up they can move on to the other garbage mountains around thr country.

[onemorechang]

Sadly fly tipping is the norm in Thailand.

its not going to change for the next 25 years or more,  its way down

the list of behavior,    that needs adjustment in Thailand.

 

[elgordo38]

3 hours ago, eliotness said:

So what about the contaminated ground, which was reported as "a sandpit".  The report states "a sample has been sent" hopefully to a lab with a GCMS which can identify the organic chemical(s), but how do they know all 50 or so drums contain the same chemical, or even mixture of chemicals.  I would suggest that the drums would not contain pure styrene monomer because if so then why throw them away.  I guess the specialists sent to investigate weren't that special after all.  Sounds like this is being done on the cheap as several posters have suggested.  Just glad my groundwater well is no where near that site.

They would never do things on the cheap would they??? Especially with the landowner being somewhat connected. 

[mrfill]

On 29/08/2016 at 7:35 AM, johng said:

 

Years ago you could give the "dustman"  just about anything and they would gladly take it  if not the
"rag and bone man" would...now you're lucky if he council will provide a yearly skip to throw your waste away

but not TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters and a ever growing list

so you try and take that stuff to the council approved tip...they wont let you in in a van and as a resident you can only bring 2 car loads per month...ohh and they wont except TV/computer screens,  fridges, batteries,tyres,oil,lpg canisters !!!

 

If they want to stop people dumping why do they make it so difficult to dispose of waste properly ?

 

As for Thailand /Pattaya  a lot of stuff is  unofficially recycled  collected by the "garbage pickers"  and sold to various  middlemen recyclers around the area...

I asked before and don't think anyone  did answer   where is the official waste disposal/ rubbish dump for the Pattaya area ?   google map would be lovely thanks.

 

 

Council Household Recycling Centres do accept TVs, fridges , batteries, oil and canisters. And if you consider that difficult then consider why. It is because the councils cannot raise more money to pay for the disposal as the government will not permit them to raise local taxes sufficiently. Disposing of waste costs money. Disposing of hazardous waste costs more money - but the users do not want to pay as their wealth is more important than the health of the environment. The greed culture is too well established.

[cumgranosalum]

Thailand's handling of garbage and any kind of waste disposal leaves a lot to be desired.......if they just put a little more effort into it, the national dog problem would be eliminated for a start.

[Rod Gold]

I was surprised to find that this article was not about Chinese tourists.