SgtRock Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, swanny321 said: In my analogy, coming from the UK; our tiny island is the lifeboat 'cos they ALL want to come here; the sinking ship is the massive African continent with its 1 Billion plus inhabitants! Even the safe ones in Calais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, swanny321 said: In my analogy, coming from the UK; our tiny island is the lifeboat 'cos they ALL want to come here; the sinking ship is the massive African continent with its 1 Billion plus inhabitants! After the generations of exploitation and outright theft of its natural resources by European colonialism, I think it's a nice bit of payback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caps Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Agent Sumo said: No justification for violence. What would you say if the Thais decided they'd had enough of concentrations of farangs in Pattaya, Chiang Mai and BKK and began wandering around in mobs looking to kick the shit out 'em chanting "Falang kee nok, go home"? I don't sponge off the state and cause issues in Thailand, I also don't think the whole world owes me a favour or try to bring/force my believes on people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, SgtRock said: Even the safe ones in Calais They should Never have been PERMITTED to get that far north to begin with! Thanks EU beurocretins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, SgtRock said: Well the topic is not the UK. Have you got anything to back up your claim ? The indications in the link I provided appear to prove you wrong. Well these people have fled war and the German government is offering them a home If you were in their position, wouldn't you take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: Well these people have fled war and the German government is offering them a home If you were in their position, wouldn't you take it? Fleeing war used to be called cowardice and desertion...young men were shot by their commanding officers for it! It's not like they're being asked to be cannon fodder in a foreign field; if you can't stay and defend your home what good are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: Well these people have fled war and the German government is offering them a home If you were in their position, wouldn't you take it? Fleeing war ? What war did the Moroccans, as per the OP flee ? You are now starting to sound like a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Caps said: I don't sponge off the state and cause issues in Thailand, I also don't think the whole world owes me a favour or try to bring/force my believes on people Yeah cos they're all radical Islamists, aren't they? Are you paying taxes here? Do you make a contribution to the refuse collection, highway maintenance and fire services? Not if you're a retiree here, you're not Do you maintain medical cover so that in the event of an illness or accident, you won't be a burden on the health care system struggling to cope with the needs of its own? Do you come here and support a sex industry that is prepared to go to any lengths to satisfy the cravings of dirty, depraved old Westerners who can't think with anything but their choppers? Sorry bud but you are contributing to Thai issues and while you may not be "sponging" off the state, you're definitely deriving benefit from it indirectly. I'll expect the obligatory "But I pay tax in the form of VAT on my half a lager each lunchtime" rebuttal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 here the latest social benefits statiscs harzt IV 2015 for non-eu foreigners : 293.000 tuerks, 245.000 syrians, 16293 lebanese, 16379 eritreans, 25000 afghans etc...see all muslims. in germany you have different social budgets for non eu foreigners.... the a.m. figures also not include as to refer to paper germans from for example analphabets from aghanistan carrying german passports cheers roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, SgtRock said: Fleeing war ? What war did the Moroccans, as per the OP flee ? You are now starting to sound like a troll. How do you know those Moroccans don't work? You're the troll - I can smell your rancid bigotry through my screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: After the generations of exploitation and outright theft of its natural resources by European colonialism, I think it's a nice bit of payback. I've heard this nonsensical argument before; the reason you're wrong is that during the British Empire era it was only the top 1% who benefited.Dickens had a good handle on the social injustices of the class system for example! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, swanny321 said: Fleeing war used to be called cowardice and desertion...young men were shot by their commanding officers for it! It's not like they're being asked to be cannon fodder in a foreign field; if you can't stay and defend your home what good are you? I have wondered this very thing. Why don't any of these refugees stay in their home country and fight to make it a better place? Easy. The Germans already created a better place so just go flee there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, swanny321 said: Fleeing war used to be called cowardice and desertion...young men were shot by their commanding officers for it! It's not like they're being asked to be cannon fodder in a foreign field; if you can't stay and defend your home what good are you? Yeah if they were soldiers You're out of your depth here, pal. Run along now - the adults are talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 As they should....it's a long term battle. Let the enemy fox into the henhouse. And have all the vegetarians so happy. Elect and keep on electing vegetarians to run the farm. History, that's a TV channel. Forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, swanny321 said: I've heard this nonsensical argument before; the reason you're wrong is that during the British Empire era it was only the top 1% who benefited.Dickens had a good handle on the social injustices of the class system for example! More cluelessness. Bankers & corporations grew immense wealth out of, amongst other things, the slave trade, diamonds, gold, sugar and other raw materials; wealth that contributed to the countries' coffers and allowed them to fund wars where they acquired even more wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 @agent sumo 1 guy moroccocan was for example treated at the local hospital, thats mentioned in the local press. cheers roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said: More cluelessness. Bankers & corporations grew immense wealth out of, amongst other things, the slave trade, diamonds, gold, sugar and other raw materials; wealth that contributed to the countries' coffers and allowed them to fund wars where they acquired even more wealth. And just as today the rich got richer and there was NO trickle down effect to the great unwashed masses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, roobaa01 said: @agent sumo 1 guy moroccocan was for example treated at the local hospital, thats mentioned in the local press. cheers roobaa01 So one Moroccan was caught up in the brawl and that means they were all Moroccans, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, SgtRock said: If you had read page 1 of the thread you would have seen where Moroccans came into it. It is mentioned and sourced in multiple posts. But in your haste to post utter garbage you did not read through the thread, did you ? Engage brain before assaulting keyboard. Stops you making a complete ass of yourself. 1 Moroccan in an ambulance so they were all Moroccans, were they? In any case, is a mob of 80 Germans beating a group of just 20 asylum seekers a legitimate means of defending their way of life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunebu Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Thorgal said: Your avatar and nickname refer to the Nazi era. Knowing this, your first post isn't so innocent at it looks, might be sensitive to some posters and not surprisingly popular to some others. I hope you won't post Nazi rhetoric over here... Is this one of the mails where one has to say "stay on topic"? Haunebu was one of the prototypes of disc shaped flying machines... So being interested in UFOs, anti gravity systems, sustainable energy, space, science fiction and perhaps the "unexplained" makes me a Nazi then, huh? Wow - sad to see that people like you hang out here, I'll keep my eyes open and will make sure to respond to your offensive ways accordingly. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 28 minutes ago, SgtRock said: Where did I say they did not work ? In post 58 here " What else do you think they are living on ? It sure as sh!t aint honest work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, roobaa01 said: @agent sumo who called aanother sheep would omit calculations approox. 1.2 million arab uneducated muslim asylum seekers in germany, claiming family reunion averagely at least 8 uneducated persons so another 9.6 millionen, hence 10.8 million x social expenses euro 1300 per head/monthly x 12 months = ???billionen euros per annum , unbearable for a society !!!!! uneducated =analphabets. cheers roobaa01 So in short, a 20 'uneducated' immigrants were beaten by 80 'educated' non-immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 hours ago, swanny321 said: You don't live in Europe do you? No, I live in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunebu Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Agent Sumo said: So you don't think it's normal that moderate Germans should fear a return to the right-wing political rhetoric and politics of its dark past? If you can't see what these populist politicians are doing by stirring up fear and resentment then I'm afraid you're just another sheep. Well you must be living in Lala Land then, but certainly haven't seen live, what's going on in Germany and european borders... Calling me a sheep... Haha, that's a good one, not impressed, Sumo, not impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, swanny321 said: Do try and keep up! Condensation was a play on the word condescend. Tangier never emptied out because the port is closed to the majority of natives.Since my first visit the main difference is the town is no longer entirely arab/berber; it's now full of sub-saharan africans who have literally crossed deserts on bare feet to get as close to europe as possible. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ceuta+border So bloody what? They want a better life and most are prepared to work for it. Only racists would regard that as a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Haunebu said: Is this one of the mails where one has to say "stay on topic"? Haunebu was one of the prototypes of disc shaped flying machines... So being interested in UFOs, anti gravity systems, sustainable energy, space, science fiction and perhaps the "unexplained" makes me a Nazi then, huh? Wow - sad to see that people like you hang out here, I'll keep my eyes open and will make sure to respond to your offensive ways accordingly. Thank you! But what does your location say about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, billd766 said: Sympathy for the refugees from whom? By the liberal media, to garner sympathy from liberal/fence-sitter audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 After the generations of exploitation and outright theft of its natural resources by European colonialism, I think it's a nice bit of payback.You mean the European colonists that built towns and roads and brought govt to a land where none of the indigenous population did anything but fight amongst themselves, the Colonists like the ones that made Zimbabwe the breadbasket of Africa until they were thrown out and it was then run by the original people and is now the basket case of Africa where the people are starving,you mean those colonists?Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Agent Sumo said: So bloody what? They want a better life and most are prepared to work for it. Only racists would regard that as a problem Click on the link...you may learn something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Sumo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, i claudius said: You mean the European colonists that built towns and roads and brought govt to a land where none of the indigenous population did anything but fight amongst themselves, the Colonists like the ones that made Zimbabwe the breadbasket of Africa until they were thrown out and it was then run by the original people and is now the basket case of Africa where the people are starving,you mean those colonists? Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk Yes those colonials The ones who went into South Africa, imposed apartheid, plundered the country's natural resources, denied the indigenous people educations and kept order with a brutal military force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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