80 Germans clash with a group of young asylum-seekers in Bautzen

[Pimay1]

11 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

No justification for violence.

 

What would you say if the Thais decided they'd had enough of concentrations of farangs in Pattaya, Chiang Mai and BKK and began wandering around in mobs looking to kick the shit out 'em chanting "Falang kee nok, go home"?

If farangs were gang raping the Thai women and girls, demanding free housing, food, health care, money, ect then I would say the Thais would be justified in wanting the farangs to go home.

[Pimay1]

5 minutes ago, Haunebu said:

New here, hope it's ok if I put in my two cents to this story... The most official articles about this incident are leftist propaganda! The incident started with young "refugees" (which by now in Germany HAVE to be referred to as "men" to be politically correct) fondling and verbally abusing some German girls on the streets while their friends and boyfriends were standing nearby... It all went downhill from there.

As those... ahem... "men" could have it their way easily in Cologne and other cities for the past 8 months since the Cologne Incident on new year's eve (where basically a mass gang rape, with almost 1.000 police inquiries nation-wide, and reported pregnancies was swept under the carpet by German officials and media) they just thought it'll just go on and on like this without anyone even touching them (the "men"). But boy, they were mistaken!

At least East Germans are fighting back, what is great to see. Speaking for all of my friends and relatives in (West) Germany, they all "have had it!"... No action yet, but most are preparing for what's gonna come, but won't talk about it publicly and on social media. There's a kind of secret codex now - you meet someone equal minded and you just "know"... what the other one is thinking or wanna say. There will be blood, don't be mistaken!

Welcome to the forum Haunebu. Good common sense post.

[simple1]

13 minutes ago, Farma said:

 Amazing how a few missing words in the euronews article change a readers impression on who threw the bottles and sticks.

 

Now a quote from channelnewsasia. The same information is carried by others news providers.

 

 

True the asylum people were violent, but really doesn't detract that the locals confronting them were equally guilty of very poor behaviour. Applauding the activities of the locals who prior have been attacking refugees / facilities to me is congratulating a bunch of losers.

 

On another matter raised Morocco has informed the German government that they will accept declined asylum applicants, apparently only around 4% are genuine refugees.

 

 

http://www.thelocal.de/20160229/well-take-back-rejected-refugees-morocco-tells-berlin

[Agent Sumo]

6 minutes ago, Pimay1 said:

If farangs were gang raping the Thai women and girls, demanding free housing, food, health care, money, ect then I would say the Thais would be justified in wanting the farangs to go home.

 

Violence is never justified.

 

There is a mechanism for effecting change if you disagree with a government's policies. It's called an election

[SgtRock]

5 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

Violence is never justified.

 

Remember that guys wife you were boasting about screwing.

 

You best hope he never finds out 

 

I do not think '' Violence is ever justified '' will save your ass.

[roobaa01]

@simple 1 

 de maiziere german interior minister toured maghreb states 1 year ago claiming successfully agreements had been reached, repatriating illegals, nothing has been carried out.,german parliament failed to pass legislation leading to maghred states considered secured why ?? coz left wing anarchist greens, spd and the like went on a blocking rampage in the legislative assembly. 

 

@haunebu pls get in touch patriot.

 

cheers roobaa01

[Agent Sumo]

4 minutes ago, SgtRock said:

 

Remember that guys wife you were boasting about screwing.

 

You best hope he never finds out 

 

I do not think '' Violence is ever justified '' will save your ass.

 

Mate, the geezer's a mid-60s gasper with a trick hip - he's not going to be getting violent with anyone

 

Oh and I wasn't "boasting" - the disclosure was made in the context of a thread discussing stipends

[maxcorrigan]

1 hour ago, lust said:

Germans are finally standing up for their country and way of life. But of course, let the media spin it as "racism". 

Of course it's racism they are white it only works one way, don't you know!

[Haunebu]

36 minutes ago, Pimay1 said:

Welcome to the forum Haunebu. Good common sense post.

 Thanksalot, Pimay1 

[Pimay1]

3 minutes ago, Haunebu said:

 Thanksalot, Pimay1 

You're certainly welcome. Join the fray.

[Haunebu]

33 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

Violence is never justified.

 

There is a mechanism for effecting change if you disagree with a government's policies. It's called an election

Agent Sumo - if elections would change a thing, they would be illegal!

[KhunBENQ]

As already described the short report in the OP is completely useless and distorting.

Few media still have the courage to mention who started the trouble:

minor drunken "refugees", Refugees from countries where there is no war, where they are not threatened.

The minors are "unaccompanied minors" who entered the country without parents/guardians.

The city government has now ordered a curfew and alcohol ban for these troublemakers.

 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, mesterm said:

Rash actions like these will only create more sympathy for the refugees due to the way the media will report on them. So in my view it's counterproductive.

 

Sympathy for the refugees from whom?

[Agent Sumo]

3 minutes ago, Haunebu said:

Agent Sumo - if elections would change a thing, they would be illegal!

 

Rubbish!

 

If Germans don't like immigration policy, they can easily vote for a party that will stop it and/or reverse it. The AfD springs to mind.

 

The British took issue with lots of brown immigrants (they didn't mind the white ones, though) and voted to leave the EU because they think it will mean an end to immigration and they'll "have their country back" LOL! 

 

Unfortunately, Ms. Merkel is a somewhat highly-accomplished and successful politician who enjoys considerable popularity at home.

 

 

Give it a little while longer and maybe she won't survive a general election. We'll see

[roobaa01]

@agent sumo

 

merkels support from 65 % to a mere 43 %, whereas her failed migration policy received just recently more then 83 % disapproval.

cheers roobaa01

[smudger1951]

Of course the sexual abuse and violence handed out to German women and elsewhere is abhorrent and well known. But the impact on men is to be emasculated in our our own countries. I have read tweets from women questioning; where are are our men to stand up and resist" How long should the Police try to keep a lid on this. 

[Agent Sumo]

6 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

@agent sumo

 

merkels support from 65 % to a mere 43 %, whereas her failed migration policy received just recently more then 83 % disapproval.

cheers roobaa01

 

Well let's see how the electorate balance a few immigrants against the implications of quitting Europe which is what an end to free movement of people will mean.

 

Protest votes and polls mean jack shit - come the moment of truth, most will just bloody well put up with it.

 

Who cares what a few redneck thugs think?

[Thorgal]

1 hour ago, Haunebu said:

New here, hope it's ok if I put in my two cents to this story... The most official articles about this incident are leftist propaganda! The incident started with young "refugees" (which by now in Germany HAVE to be referred to as "men" to be politically correct) fondling and verbally abusing some German girls on the streets while their friends and boyfriends were standing nearby... It all went downhill from there.

As those... ahem... "men" could have it their way easily in Cologne and other cities for the past 8 months since the Cologne Incident on new year's eve (where basically a mass gang rape, with almost 1.000 police inquiries nation-wide, and reported pregnancies was swept under the carpet by German officials and media) they just thought it'll just go on and on like this without anyone even touching them (the "men"). But boy, they were mistaken!

At least East Germans are fighting back, what is great to see. Speaking for all of my friends and relatives in (West) Germany, they all "have had it!"... No action yet, but most are preparing for what's gonna come, but won't talk about it publicly and on social media. There's a kind of secret codex now - you meet someone equal minded and you just "know"... what the other one is thinking or wanna say. There will be blood, don't be mistaken!

 

Your avatar and nickname refer to the Nazi era.

Knowing this, your first post isn't so innocent at it looks, might be sensitive to some posters and not surprisingly popular to some others.

 

I hope you won't post Nazi rhetoric over here...

[Haunebu]

Just now, Agent Sumo said:

 

Rubbish!

 

If Germans don't like immigration policy, they can easily vote for a party that will stop it and/or reverse it. The AfD springs to mind.

 

The British took issue with lots of brown immigrants (they didn't mind the white ones, though) and voted to leave the EU because they think it will mean an end to immigration and they'll "have their country back" LOL! 

 

Unfortunately, Ms. Merkel is a somewhat highly-accomplished and successful politician who enjoys considerable popularity at home.

 

 

Give it a little while longer and maybe she won't survive a general election. We'll see

Not sure if it is very productive to dismiss the opinions of others as "rubbish", hope this is not standard here... However - there are more and more violent attacks on AFD politicians by hardcore leftists happening all over Germany. These violent leftists are not punished, nor are their actions being condemned by any politicians in charge. Instead, they are being practically hailed as heroes in mainstream media who stand up against the right wingers or "right-minded" as mainstream papers put it... This gives a kind of out of jail free card to any violent leftist to do even more damage.

The signal the above gives to the common man on the street is that AFD is rightwing, bad and deserves to be punished. Anyone who openly commits that he's supporting AFD is branded a Nazi... Do you truly believe that the common German on the street, who has ben brainwashed from Kindergarden onwards that he still has to carry "the guilt" of his ancestors, that he basically is a Nazi in toddlers' clothing... Do you really believe they would vote for a party that is wrongfully branded a Nazi organisation???

And - you say Merkel is a highly-accomplished and successful politician... Well, let's start by how she gained and stayed in power... There wer nothing and absolutely nothing but lies to gain voters AND (most importantly) she always got rid of anyone who could push her off the throne. She kicked able and well-educated and popular people out or put them in positions where they can't cause her any harm (while putting idiots and sociopaths in charge of nation defence and finances) like a Cookoo bird throwing his stepsisters and brothers out of the nest.

This all said - if the AFD would ever get into a position of where the party could become a threat to Merkel and her vassals, something would "happen" that would either postpone or suspend elections. Democracy as we know it is history, my friend! Time to take off the pink glasses and change to binoculars!

[roobaa01]

@agent sumo

 

merkel has been snupped in the last 2 state eelections, most imporant lost on her turf in mecklenburg vorpommern only number 3 behind afd with 21 %.

the dominant topic remains failed immigration policy, eu policy isnt that dominant .

 

cheers roobaa01

[Agent Sumo]

2 minutes ago, Haunebu said:

Not sure if it is very productive to dismiss the opinions of others as "rubbish", hope this is not standard here... However - there are more and more violent attacks on AFD politicians by hardcore leftists happening all over Germany. These violent leftists are not punished, nor are their actions being condemned by any politicians in charge. Instead, they are being practically hailed as heroes in mainstream media who stand up against the right wingers or "right-minded" as mainstream papers put it... This gives a kind of out of jail free card to any violent leftist to do even more damage.

The signal the above gives to the common man on the street is that AFD is rightwing, bad and deserves to be punished. Anyone who openly commits that he's supporting AFD is branded a Nazi... Do you truly believe that the common German on the street, who has ben brainwashed from Kindergarden onwards that he still has to carry "the guilt" of his ancestors, that he basically is a Nazi in toddlers' clothing... Do you really believe they would vote for a party that is wrongfully branded a Nazi organisation???

And - you say Merkel is a highly-accomplished and successful politician... Well, let's start by how she gained and stayed in power... There wer nothing and absolutely nothing but lies to gain voters AND (most importantly) she always got rid of anyone who could push her off the throne. She kicked able and well-educated and popular people out or put them in positions where they can't cause her any harm (while putting idiots and sociopaths in charge of nation defence and finances) like a Cookoo bird throwing his stepsisters and brothers out of the nest.

This all said - if the AFD would ever get into a position of where the party could become a threat to Merkel and her vassals, something would "happen" that would either postpone or suspend elections. Democracy as we know it is history, my friend! Time to take off the pink glasses and change to binoculars!

 

So you don't think it's normal that moderate Germans should fear a return to the right-wing political rhetoric and politics of its dark past?

 

If you can't see what these populist politicians are doing by stirring up fear and resentment then I'm afraid you're just another sheep.

[roobaa01]

@agent sumo

 

who called aanother sheep would omit calculations approox. 1.2 million arab uneducated muslim asylum seekers in germany, claiming family reunion averagely at least 8 uneducated persons so another 9.6 millionen, hence 10.8 million x social expenses euro 1300 per head/monthly x 12 months = ???billionen euros per annum , unbearable for a society !!!!!  uneducated =analphabets.

 

cheers roobaa01

[Agent Sumo]

17 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

@agent sumo

 

who called aanother sheep would omit calculations approox. 1.2 million arab uneducated muslim asylum seekers in germany, claiming family reunion averagely at least 8 uneducated persons so another 9.6 millionen, hence 10.8 million x social expenses euro 1300 per head/monthly x 12 months = ???billionen euros per annum , unbearable for a society !!!!!  uneducated =analphabets.

 

cheers roobaa01

 

Yeah out of a nation of 80+ million people 

 

Yeah Germany's being swamped.

 

Your "calculations" were obviously done on the back of a cigarette pack. You've just gone ahead and assumed - like the other sheep - that all those migrants and their families are on welfare.

 

That alone makes you look foolish.

 

We can see who the AfD is targeting now

[DM07]

51 minutes ago, Haunebu said:

Not sure if it is very productive to dismiss the opinions of others as "rubbish", hope this is not standard here... However - there are more and more violent attacks on AFD politicians by hardcore leftists happening all over Germany. These violent leftists are not punished, nor are their actions being condemned by any politicians in charge. Instead, they are being practically hailed as heroes in mainstream media who stand up against the right wingers or "right-minded" as mainstream papers put it... This gives a kind of out of jail free card to any violent leftist to do even more damage.

The signal the above gives to the common man on the street is that AFD is rightwing, bad and deserves to be punished. Anyone who openly commits that he's supporting AFD is branded a Nazi... Do you truly believe that the common German on the street, who has ben brainwashed from Kindergarden onwards that he still has to carry "the guilt" of his ancestors, that he basically is a Nazi in toddlers' clothing... Do you really believe they would vote for a party that is wrongfully branded a Nazi organisation???

And - you say Merkel is a highly-accomplished and successful politician... Well, let's start by how she gained and stayed in power... There wer nothing and absolutely nothing but lies to gain voters AND (most importantly) she always got rid of anyone who could push her off the throne. She kicked able and well-educated and popular people out or put them in positions where they can't cause her any harm (while putting idiots and sociopaths in charge of nation defence and finances) like a Cookoo bird throwing his stepsisters and brothers out of the nest.

This all said - if the AFD would ever get into a position of where the party could become a threat to Merkel and her vassals, something would "happen" that would either postpone or suspend elections. Democracy as we know it is history, my friend! Time to take off the pink glasses and change to binoculars!

Was aluminum foil on sale again, today?!

[DM07]

32 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

@agent sumo

 

who called aanother sheep would omit calculations approox. 1.2 million arab uneducated muslim asylum seekers in germany, claiming family reunion averagely at least 8 uneducated persons so another 9.6 millionen, hence 10.8 million x social expenses euro 1300 per head/monthly x 12 months = ???billionen euros per annum , unbearable for a society !!!!!  uneducated =analphabets.

 

cheers roobaa01

1,2 million asylum seekers!

Not all are Arab, not all are Muslim and sure not all are uneducated!

But we know, that your side is juggling with gross generalisations, to bring across your hateful rethoric.

 

I don't know, who said it, but he/ she was right: if you never iunderstood, what was going on with Hitler and the 3rd Rich- now you can have a front row seat and observe it!

[roobaa01]

@dm 07, @agent sumo

 

1. 1.5 millionen entered, plus 0.5 millionen not reegistered makes 2 million

2. 600.000 syrians,,120.000 irapuis, 16000 libanese, 20.000 somalis, 12000 sudanese, 110.000  aaghanis, 5000 pakistanis, 16000 eritreans, 10000 north africans etc....all muslims summing up to 1.2 million

 

wbr roobaa01

[SgtRock]

18 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

Your "calculations" were obviously done on the back of a cigarette pack. You've just gone ahead and assumed - like the other sheep - that all those migrants and their families are on welfare.

 

What else do you think they are living on ?

 

It sure as sh!t aint honest work.

 

Quote

Germany’s deputy chancellor has written to bosses of the country’s leading companies demanding they hire more refugees, after a survey found they had taken on a grand total of just 54.

 

Only 300,000 have registered for work. Why register for work when you get everything free

 

Quote

According to official statistics, of the nearly 300,000 refugees currently registered as looking for work, 74 per cent have had no vocational training and a quarter do not even have a school-leaving certificate. Nine per cent have a degree.

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d5d0bb96-49a8-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab.html#axzz4KOkMc3pN

[Agent Sumo]

1 minute ago, SgtRock said:

 

What else do you think they are living on 

 

Many of them work as do many of those who are in Britain.

 

They do the shitty jobs that illiterate chavs think they're too good for and pay taxes on their earnings too

[SgtRock]

1 minute ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

Many of them work as do many of those who are in Britain.

 

They do the shitty jobs that illiterate chavs think they're too good for and pay taxes on their earnings too

 

Well the topic is not the UK.

 

Have you got anything to back up your claim ?

 

The indications in the link I provided appear to prove you wrong.

[swanny321]

2 hours ago, DM07 said:

 

Like the ones in the Mediterrenean, where refugees die on a daily basis, trying to escape war or poverty?

 

  In my analogy, coming from the UK; our tiny island is the lifeboat 'cos they ALL want to come here;

the sinking ship is the massive African continent with its 1 Billion plus inhabitants!