My divorce requirements and advice.

[thaibeachlovers]

Having done much research on this forum, i'm putting up what I required, as it is different from what I read.

 

Legalised passport translation- NOT required

Yellow book ( proof of address )- REQUIRED

My marriage cert- NOT required ( though it would be wise to take it )

My passport- required.

2 witnesses- NOT required. I presume the office staff did that for us.

Copies- NOT required.

 

Has I not gone to the amphur office to ask THEM, I would not have had my yellow book, and I might have spent time and money aquiring a legalised pp translation.

 

I was only given the coloured certificate. I had to ask to get the stamped form. Make sure you get that as well as the coloured certificate.

 

Cost- no idea. She paid.

 

My advice- check at the office where YOU will be going before doing the real deal.

Ask for the documents you will be signing to get THEM translated for you. Nothing is in English. One of the things you might be conned into signing is apparently to support her financially afterwards, though I am not sure of the exact words.

 

Lastly, don't burn your bridges before getting the divorce, and moving out permanently. Eat whetever humble pie you have to to make her think she has the upper hand. I'm sure the ability of a scorned wife to make you suffer is unlimited.

[thaibeachlovers]

PS, unlike one poor soul ( different thread ) that got refused a divorce because he had a new passport with different number to that on his marriage certificate, I too had a new passport, but they didn't even blink about that.

[williamgeorgeallen]

sorry to be a negative nancy but to anyone reading this you should think long and hard about marrying a thai woman. if you are doing it for a visa i would say the elite visa works out cheaper in most cases and is far less headaches. costs nothing to get out of the elite visa when you are ready for your retirement visa.

[bark]

54 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

sorry to be a negative nancy but to anyone reading this you should think long and hard about marrying a thai woman. if you are doing it for a visa i would say the elite visa works out cheaper in most cases and is far less headaches. costs nothing to get out of the elite visa when you are ready for your retirement visa.

Yes, better to rent the Thai girls then to marry them. 

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, bark said:

Yes, better to rent the Thai girls then to marry them. 

i am renting mine long term as we have 2 kids. still keeping an exit strategy if she goes crazy. thats why it is good to rent accommodation. can pack up and leave when they are asleep. i did this once before when a girl i was seeing threatened to cut herself. nasty situation. one Swedish mate woke up 3am monday morning and his girl was in the bathroom slicing he wrists. nasty nasty.

 

Edited September 29, 2016 by williamgeorgeallen

[bark]

3 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

i am renting mine long term as we have 2 kids. still keeping an exit strategy if she goes crazy. thats why it is good to rent accommodation. can pack up and leave when they are asleep. i did this once before when a girl i was seeing threatened to cut herself. nasty situation. one Swedish mate woke up 3am monday morning and his girl was in the bathroom slicing he wrists. nasty nasty.

 

We think the same. I have a travel bag with clothes for one week and 5,000 USD in the bottom of bag. 

I only need to grab my passport and I am gone :)

[Colabamumbai]

You take your passport to the Amphur with the lady you want to divorce, you pay thirty Baht and get a divorce certificate. It took an hour because it was lunch time.The tourist police in Korat escorted the two of us to the Amphur to do it. We did not need a copy of the marriage certificate as it is on file. 

[holy cow cm]

3 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

sorry to be a negative nancy but to anyone reading this you should think long and hard about marrying a thai woman. if you are doing it for a visa i would say the elite visa works out cheaper in most cases and is far less headaches. costs nothing to get out of the elite visa when you are ready for your retirement visa.

You sound like a very nice person -  seriously

[holy cow cm]

Hope it does not get ugly.. Good luck!

 

[jippytum]

If you and your wife are in agreement as to the divorce conditions the actual  process at the amphur is quite simple and inexpensive . My divorce took 45mins and cost 50baht fee for the green divorce certificate.Passport and proof of residence only required

[williamgeorgeallen]

12 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

You sound like a very nice person -  seriously

thanks. i really try to help guys out from having their lives ruined here. had another mate cleaned out not long ago. he came and stayed at my place when he had to walk away from his own house which of course he lost. i lent him quite a bit of cash and he is getting back on his feet now. he is luck he is a bit younger and has a chance to start over.

Edited September 29, 2016 by williamgeorgeallen

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎29‎.‎09‎.‎2016 at 2:55 PM, williamgeorgeallen said:

sorry to be a negative nancy but to anyone reading this you should think long and hard about marrying a thai woman. if you are doing it for a visa i would say the elite visa works out cheaper in most cases and is far less headaches. costs nothing to get out of the elite visa when you are ready for your retirement visa.

I agree, NOW. However, I did everything right, waited a year, didn't buy cars or houses. The most I gave the family was a couple of fridges, told her I wouldn't support them.

Unfortunately, I didn't know that being close to the family would change her, then her mother got sick and died. That seems to be the trigger for a personality change that she went through. The woman I divorced is not the woman I married.

Now I am a convert to the "never, under any circumstances, get married". However, that applies to any nationality, not just Thai women. Been there done that with a Euro woman.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎29‎.‎09‎.‎2016 at 8:22 PM, jippytum said:

If you and your wife are in agreement as to the divorce conditions the actual  process at the amphur is quite simple and inexpensive . My divorce took 45mins and cost 50baht fee for the green divorce certificate.Passport and proof of residence only required

If you and your wife are in agreement

That's the catch.

I wasn't sure if my ex would be in agreement or if she was going to take me for as much of my money as she could, by using the courts.

I really believe that she only agreed to use the amphur because she thought I had too little money to make it worthwhile.

 

BTW, she has land and rental house, so I did not reduce a penniless wife to poverty, and she got plenty while we were married, even though I wasn't foolish enough to give her an "allowance".

 

At least I am very happy that I didn't pay a single satang to her mother in sin sod.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎29‎.‎09‎.‎2016 at 4:56 PM, bark said:

We think the same. I have a travel bag with clothes for one week and 5,000 USD in the bottom of bag. 

I only need to grab my passport and I am gone :)

Wise words.

I feel for the guys that paid sin sod, bought her gold, cars, houses and paid for family to go to uni etc etc. Having to walk away from all that would make one bitter and twisted for whatever remains of one's life.

[thaibeachlovers]

Having been through the whole marriage thing, I can only hope Thailand brings in the same sort of law as Laos where old suckers men are not allowed to marry Lao women.

That would save lots of us from ourselves.

[williamgeorgeallen]

24 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I agree, NOW. However, I did everything right, waited a year, didn't buy cars or houses. The most I gave the family was a couple of fridges, told her I wouldn't support them.

Unfortunately, I didn't know that being close to the family would change her, then her mother got sick and died. That seems to be the trigger for a personality change that she went through. The woman I divorced is not the woman I married.

Now I am a convert to the "never, under any circumstances, get married". However, that applies to any nationality, not just Thai women. Been there done that with a Euro woman.

most of us here have been through the marriage grinder. i was lucky it happened to me before i had many assets to loose. is hard to believe there are people who come to thailand to do it all over again. thailand is a country set up for the man to win not like the west which is set up for the man to loose.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, williamgeorgeallen said:

most of us here have been through the marriage grinder. i was lucky it happened to me before i had many assets to loose. is hard to believe there are people who come to thailand to do it all over again. thailand is a country set up for the man to win not like the west which is set up for the man to loose.

What boggles me are the ones that not only get married but have a child with her, despite having a family back home, and they are old enough to be the grandfather of their new child. I understand why she wants one, as it gives her a guaranteed income regardless of divorce, but I don't get why the old suckers men agree to it.

[williamgeorgeallen]

18 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What boggles me are the ones that not only get married but have a child with her, despite having a family back home, and they are old enough to be the grandfather of their new child. I understand why she wants one, as it gives her a guaranteed income regardless of divorce, but I don't get why the old suckers men agree to it.

well i have several older friends who are retired here with kids and they are very happy. some have paid for sole custody when the mums caused them problems and are now single dads in their sixties. it gives them a real purpose which many retired men dont have.

[thaibeachlovers]

42 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

well i have several older friends who are retired here with kids and they are very happy. some have paid for sole custody when the mums caused them problems and are now single dads in their sixties. it gives them a real purpose which many retired men dont have.

I'm NOT trying to pick a fight, but if you have a child in your sixties you are probably either going to die, or become decrepit before the child is old enough to go off on their own. Is that fair on the child? It's not about the father.

[LburtonL]

I'm NOT trying to pick a fight, but if you have a child in your sixties you are probably either going to die, or become decrepit before the child is old enough to go off on their own. Is that fair on the child? It's not about the father.

this.....

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm NOT trying to pick a fight, but if you have a child in your sixties you are probably either going to die, or become decrepit before the child is old enough to go off on their own. Is that fair on the child? It's not about the father.

fair point but. the guys i know had their kids in their 50s and the kids will be in their teens by the time they are in their late 60s. think you need to have your kids before you are in your mid 50s. not for everyone. my kids will be out on their own before i am 60. hopefully i will still have enough cash to do some more traveling.

[bark]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wise words.

I feel for the guys that paid sin sod, bought her gold, cars, houses and paid for family to go to uni etc etc. Having to walk away from all that would make one bitter and twisted for whatever remains of one's life.

Yes, it is hard to start again at age 60.

My Father told me.

"Learn from the mistakes of other people. Because you never live long enough to make them all yourself ".

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, bark said:

Yes, it is hard to start again at age 60.

My Father told me.

"Learn from the mistakes of other people. Because you never live long enough to make them all yourself ".

It's a pity TV doesn't have a pinned topic advising guys what to do to protect themselves before getting married. Eg, if one is going to buy cars/ houses etc, do so before getting married so they are not marital property and get an prenup etc.

I knew all the bad things that could happen before getting married, but I didn't know how to protect myself.

[Odin Norway]

14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What boggles me are the ones that not only get married but have a child with her, despite having a family back home, and they are old enough to be the grandfather of their new child. I understand why she wants one, as it gives her a guaranteed income regardless of divorce, but I don't get why the old suckers men agree to it.

Agree with you on the support but if you dont have a smal one youreself, you dont see the real costs.Childsupport her is set to 6500 a month.And belive me.It is not much to save on that actuall cost.My smal one use close to 1500 only on dipers a month.Belive me.I didnt agree on anything but luckily for the smal one I do love her today.

[Hedghog]

On Tuesday, October 04, 2016 at 11:51 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I agree, NOW. However, I did everything right, waited a year, didn't buy cars or houses. The most I gave the family was a couple of fridges, told her I wouldn't support them.

Unfortunately, I didn't know that being close to the family would change her, then her mother got sick and died. That seems to be the trigger for a personality change that she went through. The woman I divorced is not the woman I married.

Now I am a convert to the "never, under any circumstances, get married". However, that applies to any nationality, not just Thai women. Been there done that with a Euro woman.

What about the house that you paid off.

You mentioned in your OP What happens to the house in divorce.

August this year

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, Hedghog said:

What about the house that you paid off.

You mentioned in your OP What happens to the house in divorce.

August this year

Yes, that is correct. When I agreed to marry her she owed money on her house that she had already bought. Because she was going to be working in a less well paying job to be with me and could no longer afford to pay the mortgage, I agreed to assist her with the mortgage payments. It was by no means a great deal of money as far as houses go.

I did not offer to buy or build her a house from scratch which is what I was referring to. It's one thing to give someone a new house and something else helping them pay off something they could no longer afford because of me.

I doubt anyone would consider it fair to make someone lose their house just to get married.

 

My query about the house re divorce was whether paying some of the mortgage after marriage meant she had to sell it and give half to me. I did not intend to use that, unless she tried to take half of my money. As it was, she agreed to a quicky divorce with no financial settlement involved so nothing happened re that house. I did give her some money for that, but it was money I could afford to lose.