Court rejects Thaksin’s demand for the return of his Thai passports

[Srikcir]

15 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

He then resigned this position and a new caretaker PM was duly appointed.

"Thaksin announced on 4 April 2006 that he would not accept the post of Prime Minister after Parliament reconvened, but would continue as Caretaker Prime Minister until then..... He then delegated his functions to Caretaker Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Wannasathit, moved out of Government House, and went on vacation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Election_results_and_by-elections

The military coup occurred while he was on leave in New York, USA that terminated the elected government and caretaker PM authority.

Do you have a reference backing your timeline, especially helpful if Wikipedia is incorrect? 

[halloween]

40 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

"Thaksin announced on 4 April 2006 that he would not accept the post of Prime Minister after Parliament reconvened, but would continue as Caretaker Prime Minister until then..... He then delegated his functions to Caretaker Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Wannasathit, moved out of Government House, and went on vacation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Election_results_and_by-elections

The military coup occurred while he was on leave in New York, USA that terminated the elected government and caretaker PM authority.

Do you have a reference backing your timeline, especially helpful if Wikipedia is incorrect? 

Wiki has a flaw, its history can be changed.

"April 7, 2006

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra resigned on Wednesday (April 5), and appointed a loyal colleague...............
Thaksin named Justice Minister Chitchai Wannasathit, who is also a deputy prime minister and former police general, as this Southeast Asian nation's interim prime minister."

http://freepress.org/article/thaksin-resigns

[Srikcir]

3 hours ago, halloween said:

Wiki has a flaw, its history can be changed.

"April 7, 2006

BANGKOK, Thailand -- Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra resigned on Wednesday (April 5), and appointed a loyal colleague...............
Thaksin named Justice Minister Chitchai Wannasathit, who is also a deputy prime minister and former police general, as this Southeast Asian nation's interim prime minister."

http://freepress.org/article/thaksin-resigns

Thank you. Even states that Thaksin resigned. From Thaksin's statements in the article, his resignation was deliberate and permanent with regard to returning as PM that would require elections. But the elections were cancelled due to the coup, so a moot point.

[SheungWan]

7 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Thank you. Even states that Thaksin resigned. From Thaksin's statements in the article, his resignation was deliberate and permanent with regard to returning as PM that would require elections. But the elections were cancelled due to the coup, so a moot point.

 

But not a moot point that Thaksin was not overthrown by a coup.

[Wilsonandson]

Why the need to have his passports returned? Thaksin has many. Is this the only reform the government can implement? Reset, reform, restart what?

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

 

But not a moot point that Thaksin was not overthrown by a coup.

 

And not a moot point that having re-appointed himself caretaker PM it was Thaksin who was delaying the election.

[Baerboxer]

9 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Thank you. Even states that Thaksin resigned. From Thaksin's statements in the article, his resignation was deliberate and permanent with regard to returning as PM that would require elections. But the elections were cancelled due to the coup, so a moot point.

 

The coup happened because Thaksin who having resigned as caretaker PM, then re-appointing himself on no one's authority but his own was delaying the election and acting like he was still PM in the meantime. So something had to be done.

[Baerboxer]

13 hours ago, Srikcir said:

"Thaksin announced on 4 April 2006 that he would not accept the post of Prime Minister after Parliament reconvened, but would continue as Caretaker Prime Minister until then..... He then delegated his functions to Caretaker Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Wannasathit, moved out of Government House, and went on vacation."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra#Election_results_and_by-elections

The military coup occurred while he was on leave in New York, USA that terminated the elected government and caretaker PM authority.

Do you have a reference backing your timeline, especially helpful if Wikipedia is incorrect? 

 

You ignore the fact he dissolved parliament and then resigned as caretaker PM.

 

When the coup happened he was illegally occupying the caretaker role having appointed himself without any authority.

[Baerboxer]

On 9/28/2016 at 8:09 PM, performance said:

 

I would not let this JUNTA in either. Yes Australia do not recognize terrorists and dictators. He can play his TV tribute show as long as he likes. He was not elected by the people of Thailand. And if he goes to election he will loose. No he won't all is a farce and rigged. Just like the draft lol. Joke..

 

Would that be the same Australia that happily pays people traffickers to take the boats and people back? The same Australia that happily sends it's diplomats and senior politicians here to deal with the exact same Junta members?

 

And did the other poster come up with the "several other" countries who have banned Junta members from entering yet?

 

 

[Baerboxer]

On 9/28/2016 at 8:49 PM, Artisi said:

Fact check again, when he was out of the country he wasn't PM only interim PM as the parliament had been terminated pending elections - so the coup wasn't against him. 

 

He was even the legitimate caretaker PM at the time either. He'd resigned and then illegally re-appointed himself.

 

But the PR lobbyists and a few posters here think "removed in a coup" sounds much better than the actual truth.

[Baerboxer]

On 9/28/2016 at 8:39 PM, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

You know fine well not a single government or even Interpol will listen to extradition requests from a military junta.

 

 

Don't think that's true. As an Interpol member country the Thai authorities could request to flag Thaksin as a fugitive criminal on the run. This isn't a political conviction it's a simple criminal one; as are the outstanding warrants for all those other criminal cases.

However, Interpol don't arrest or extradite anyone. The Thai authorities would then have to satisfy the extradition requirements of the particular country he was arrested by, assuming there is an extradition treaty in existence between them.

I don't know of any country off-hand that simply dismisses extradition requests rather than putting them through due process first.

 

How are you going with the list of 'several countries' who in addition to Australia have banned Junta members and their families from entering? 

[Chris Lawrence]

21 hours ago, halloween said:

It was quite clear where the material came from, and the presentation was fine for an internet forum with a clear link.

What do I think? You're still nitpicking a great post.

[performance]

9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Would that be the same Australia that happily pays people traffickers to take the boats and people back? The same Australia that happily sends it's diplomats and senior politicians here to deal with the exact same Junta members?

 

And did the other poster come up with the "several other" countries who have banned Junta members from entering yet?

 

 

Yes Australia has been welcoming and housing other nations and offering them social security payments for decades. Unfortunately the pure Australian has had to suffer. Now is time to spin the boats back :)

Oh and Sir by a elected PM. Nothere a tyrant 

Good day to you.

[Artisi]

11 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

I haven't bothered because I don't obsess over the subject all day, every day. 

You don't , so why bother posting mis-information and then ducking for cover when caught-out?

[performance]

2 minutes ago, Artisi said:

You don't , so why bother posting mis-information and then ducking for cover when caught-out?

 

Where coming out guns blazing! !

[Artisi]

11 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

He was even the legitimate caretaker PM at the time either. He'd resigned and then illegally re-appointed himself.

 

But the PR lobbyists and a few posters here think "removed in a coup" sounds much better than the actual truth.

I stand corrected on that point. But agree "removed in a coup" certainly does sound much better to many misinformed people and of course promoted constantly by many others.

[performance]

11 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Don't think that's true. As an Interpol member country the Thai authorities could request to flag Thaksin as a fugitive criminal on the run. This isn't a political conviction it's a simple criminal one; as are the outstanding warrants for all those other criminal cases.

However, Interpol don't arrest or extradite anyone. The Thai authorities would then have to satisfy the extradition requirements of the particular country he was arrested by, assuming there is an extradition treaty in existence between them.

I don't know of any country off-hand that simply dismisses extradition requests rather than putting them through due process first.

 

How are you going with the list of 'several countries' who in addition to Australia have banned Junta members and their families from entering? 

 

Interpol will say go away 

They are aware of Prayut and his associates. Thais and who can feed next. Prayut is a fake

[performance]

2 minutes ago, performance said:

 

Interpol will say go away 

They are aware of Prayut and his associates. Thais and who can feed next. Prayut is a fake

This regime is rotten to the core. A joke no work has been done. Only money projects so they can quickly filter and drain.  Bullshit talk from old brass that payed for the medals and kicked ass. The rest is laughable.

[performance]

1 minute ago, performance said:

This regime is rotten to the core. A joke no work has been done. Only money projects so they can quickly filter and drain.  Bullshit talk from old brass that payed for the medals and kicked ass. The rest is laughable.

From this moment forward I will not post in regards to that muppett. It upsets my lifestyle :)

 

Best wishes to all.

[Baerboxer]

On 9/29/2016 at 11:19 PM, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

I haven't bothered because I don't obsess over the subject all day, every day. 

 

We'll take that as an admission that you didn't base your comment on any facts then shall we?

 

Like most of your posts.

[Baerboxer]

On 9/30/2016 at 8:04 AM, performance said:

Yes Australia has been welcoming and housing other nations and offering them social security payments for decades. Unfortunately the pure Australian has had to suffer. Now is time to spin the boats back :)

Oh and Sir by a elected PM. Nothere a tyrant 

Good day to you.

 

Shame they didn't welcome the Aboriginals whose country it actually was. Or treat them kindly. Not much improved although they have stopped killing them and stealing their children.

[Baerboxer]

On 9/30/2016 at 10:35 AM, performance said:

 

Interpol will say go away 

They are aware of Prayut and his associates. Thais and who can feed next. Prayut is a fake

 

You clearly have no idea about Interpol.

 

 

[SaintLouisBlues]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

You clearly have no idea about Interpol.

They're not going to hand over a deposed leader who they know will be treated as a political prisoner

[Baerboxer]

5 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

They're not going to hand over a deposed leader who they know will be treated as a political prisoner

 

Certainly won't do anything as they've not been officially asked. By any government. 

 

Interpol have no powers of arrest, or judicial system. That would be up to the country in which a person is detained. The country seeking extradition would have to see if they decide if it believed or did not believe Thaksin's insistence he's never ever done anything wrong, and everything against him is politically motivated. Hard to claim the Krungthai Bank Fraud case is politically motivated.

 

Ask yourself, does Thaksin and his clan have a habit of always being truthful, honest and ethical - or the opposite?

Edited October 1, 2016 by Baerboxer

[SaintLouisBlues]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Ask yourself, does Thaksin and his clan have a habit of always being truthful, honest and ethical - or the opposite?

I think they'd be quite at home as TV members