snoop1130 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 AEDs to be installed at public phone booths to help sudden cardiac arrest patients The National Institute for Emergency Medicines in cooperation with TOT public Company plan to install automated external defibrillator (AED) at public telephone booths to help people suffering from sudden cardiac arrest (SCA). Dr Anucha Sethsathien, secretary-general of NIEM, said Wednesday that more than 10,000 people died of SCA each year in Thailand which is as high as death toll from road accidents. Basic first aid such as CPR coupled with AED can help increase the chance of survival of SCA cases by 47 percent, said the doctor. AEDs have already been installed at heavily-populated junctions such as railway stations, airports, bus terminals, shopping malls and schools by the NIEM, but they are still not enough, especially in rural areas. Mr Sommai Suksumek, asstant manging director of TOT Public Company, said AEDs would be gradually installed at 300 public phone booths throughout the country. Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/aeds-installed-public-phone-booths-help-sudden-cardiac-arrest-patients/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Maybe teaching drivers to make way for ambulances might be a good start ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 What booths? Not many left now. 20 years too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Better teach all motorists how to drive properly according the rules....or do we need another crackdown first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Although the idea is great....the will not last long. They'll disappear quickly only to be sold at market. They need to rethink this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyummer Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 And how many people with heart problems would be walking past these phone booths in such crowded areas? Good luck trying to reach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upnotover Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: 300 public phone booths throughout the country. 300? Why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Out of season April Fools joke... They need to be in attended locations somewhere like 7/11, hotels etc that are open 24/7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 PersonallyI think the worst time to have a heart attack is during a game of charades !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Thought is good. Practical application, idiotic. Yes, upon suffering a heart attack, I will crawl to a phone booth and have locals administer this treatment. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 That's right you miserable lot. Something is done to augment Heart Attacks, & all most of you do is deride it. Prats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKay Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 How soon before all these devices goes to ruin due to mismanagement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Of course it is a great idea, I just hope they can keep them from being stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_brownstone Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hmmmm I wonder who - or what Family - has the Exclusive Distributorship in Thailand for a particular Brand of AED in Thailand and could use their influence to prohibit competition here? D@mn I'm getting cynical in my old age! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 5 hours ago, faraday said: That's right you miserable lot. Something is done to augment Heart Attacks, & all most of you do is deride it. Prats! "Spend your time on things money can't buy" and allow some of us with experience in similar matters to use the head on our shoulders thinking of things that a doctor in a perfect world might not think of there prat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 52 minutes ago, silent said: "Spend your time on things money can't buy" and allow some of us with experience in similar matters to use the head on our shoulders thinking of things that a doctor in a perfect world might not think of there prat! I have extensive professional experience in pre hospital defibrillation. Having been responsible for the placement of AEDs in public areas, & also used them in the OR, I am very well qualified to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Phone booths? The Thais need to call in the Expert from the UK, and they can install the system on every lighting pole. Mr. Bean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Another comment which reinforces my point. Noblesse oblige. Edited September 29, 2016 by faraday dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_brownstone Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, faraday said: That's right you miserable lot. Something is done to augment Heart Attacks, & all most of you do is deride it. Prats! If I was having a Heart Attack the absolute last thing I would want anyone to do would be to "augment " it! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 9 minutes ago, p_brownstone said: If I was having a Heart Attack the absolute last thing I would want anyone to do would be to "augment " it! Patrick Whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 hours ago, faraday said: That's right you miserable lot. Something is done to augment Heart Attacks, & all most of you do is deride it. Prats! Really, how many Thai people know how to use one? How many westerners come to that? If they were placed in logical locations, such as 7/11s etc and the people there were trained to use them (not difficult) it might make sense. Phone booths (practically non existent) don't. And we are prats, yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 4 hours ago, nakhonandy said: Really, how many Thai people know how to use one? How many westerners come to that? If they were placed in logical locations, such as 7/11s etc and the people there were trained to use them (not difficult) it might make sense. Phone booths (practically non existent) don't. And we are prats, yeah right. Not seen the defibs in Central? There has been a huge training & education in the use of aeds in the west over the last 20 years. Aeds are quite straightforward to use. That is the point of them. Try to keep up, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 9 hours ago, faraday said: I have extensive professional experience in pre hospital defibrillation. Having been responsible for the placement of AEDs in public areas, & also used them in the OR, I am very well qualified to comment. Is that supposed to change my opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 hours ago, faraday said: Not seen the defibs in Central? There has been a huge training & education in the use of aeds in the west over the last 20 years. Aeds are quite straightforward to use. That is the point of them. Try to keep up, ok. Don't be condescending, with the try to keep up bs. You were the one calling people prats. I train people to use them here. We are not in the west. I also stated they are not difficult to use in my reply. My point was training here is minimal to say the least. Not only that the use of practically no phone boxes makes the report a joke. 7/11s would be far more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 hours ago, nakhonandy said: My point was training here is minimal to say the least. Not only that the use of practically no phone boxes makes the report a joke. 7/11s would be far more sense. I think that most of the public phones which are still in operation are outside convenience stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 9 hours ago, nakhonandy said: Don't be condescending, with the try to keep up bs. You were the one calling people prats. I train people to use them here. We are not in the west. I also stated they are not difficult to use in my reply. My point was training here is minimal to say the least. Not only that the use of practically no phone boxes makes the report a joke. 7/11s would be far more sense. You said in post#21 'how many westerners. ....etc. I used the word 'prat' because way too many threads seem to denigrate Thai people, rather than be constructive criticism. If, as you say training here is minimal, why don't you do something about it? Which defibs are used most widely here? Yes, I agree the phone box idea is not thought through correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish monger Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I wonder how much I can get for one of those things............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 @faraday, you are completely missing the point about the criticism. First, telephone booths are falling into disrepair rapidly. To suggest they be used smacks yet again of someone not doing their homework (or krieng jai - let's not criticize). Then it was said 300 booths - that barely makes a dent in one province let alone the whole country. Then there is always the shadow of impropriety that lingers when such an absurd and improperly thought out proposal is made out of the blue, without any reference to any research or discussion. We all know how often that happens, hence the cynicism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, faraday said: I have extensive professional experience in pre hospital defibrillation. Having been responsible for the placement of AEDs in public areas, & also used them in the OR, I am very well qualified to comment. Then you are the man that they need. Yes, in theory it is a great idea and life saver. In practice as pointed out there are several problems. The main one being to stop it walking. The other being the patient dies anyway and you may very well be accused of assisting. Having said that if my heart stopped or AF or VF started I'd like someone to stick an AED on me I think. Edited September 30, 2016 by JAS21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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