Bonobojt Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) hey, so I'm a 25 year old male from England, I've been to Thailand 4 times in the last 2 years, I love Thailand, the people, the culture, the food, I've also been to many other countries as a solo traveller. at first I was into the Bar Girl scene but now I don't do that anymore and have no interest in it, so I want to make it clear I'm not wanting to live in Thailand because of bar girls and sex. I don't like England much, of course there are great things about living here, free health care and great supermarkets, clean and less pollution. Thai people are friendly and sociable, I can meet people and make new friends so easy in Thailand, unlike in England, I'm the kind of guy that doesn't need much in life, I'm a simple guy. One issue is I don't have a University Degree, and I'm aware that I need this to work in Thailand, I have some Thai friends I met, I got close to 1 girl I met from a dating website, she likes me a lot, she's studying at Uni, 21 years old, she wants to marry me but I'm not keen on that but I read that if you marry a Thai girl you can get the visa to live in Thailand or something ? I have an average job in the UK, no girlfriends, hardly any friends, live with my parents still, not sure what my future is here in England, I think moving to Thailand would be good to me, if its possible ? Edited October 4, 2016 by Bonobojt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 forget it, to work here for YOU is most likely impossible, Thailand is NOT a utopia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Sure, you can get a visa if you get married. You'll probably still need to earn a living though, and you need a work permit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 No need for a degree to work in Thailand, unless the job requirements state this. (as is the case with teaching). However you do need some kind of skill or reason why a Thai can't do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I dont have a degree but i do have a work permit. it's doable but it's not easy and i got really lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonobojt Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 I have 7 years experience working in a kitchen as a kitchen porter or kitchen assistant but that is a job the Thai's can do, maybe my English and the fact I was born and raised in England is the only advantage I have to live and work in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, Bonobojt said: I have 7 years experience working in a kitchen as a kitchen porter or kitchen assistant but that is a job the Thai's can do, maybe my English and the fact I was born and raised in England is the only advantage I have to live and work in Thailand. That's more of a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonobojt Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 so basically I have to win the lottery if I ever want to live in Thailand .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Bonobojt said: so basically I have to win the lottery if I ever want to live in Thailand .. No. Just get a degree, or find a job that doesn't require one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 You will not be able to get a job here, so, it would be pointless coming to live in Thailand . That 21 year old Uni girl will just have to find someone else . Could you give me her contact details ? I can take up in real life where you left off on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Invest in your future- get the degree. Doors will open to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpa Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Of course everything is possible, but honestly it is not easy. The most important thing is money, when it comes to living in Thailand. If you have the money, you can always find legal ways to stay here. With no education or special experience, it will be hard for you to find a job here, that can give you a work permit. If I was you, and you want to get away for some years, then look at some other countries that are more open to foreigners and where it is easier to stay long-term (maybe also get a job). PS. Although I also like Thailand, I can assure you that your views on the place, people etc. will change a lot, once you stay there long-term. And remember the main and only key to surviving long-term in Thailand as a foreigner is MONEY. You run out of that and your time is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Bonobojt said: I have 7 years experience working in a kitchen as a kitchen porter or kitchen assistant but that is a job the Thai's can do, maybe my English and the fact I was born and raised in England is the only advantage I have to live and work in Thailand. If your thinking you can land a job just because you can speak English, sorry It doesn't work like that. Example: Thai companies don't employ people purely because they can speak English. But a few Thai companies (very limited) do employ in-house English teachers. Whether such companies insist on a degree is an open question case by case. You would need a work permit (connected specifically to the company) regardless of visa connected to marriage or any sort of visa. All work permits are connected to specific jobs in specific companies. There is no such thing, in Thailand, as a personal work open to work anywhere - it doesn't exist. It may be possible to do a 30 day (or similar) course to gain a certificate teach English and then get a job to teach English. Whether you also need a degree to land a job teaching English has 10 different answers and other members can give more details on that point. Don't forget you will need a work permit. Marriage - take it very slowly, there are many many horror stories on this but many guys let themselves get involved with the wrong girls (as in any country). Also plenty of good stories, but in most cases this probably means knowing the lady well for at least a couple of years before marriage and doing your research well about what Thai females expect from marriage and what their families except from you. It's not the same picture you know from home and it's not going to change. But keep in mind that teaching English (except for a few positions - more likely to be in universities, where a masters degree would be needed) doesn't pay all that well, but from my limited knowledge on this, earning 20 - 30,000Baht a month is possible but depends on what classes you are assigned to month by month, etc. Others please comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonobojt Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 http://www.accessenglish.org/teaching-english-in-thailand-without-a-degree/ apparently 80% of English Teachers in Thailand are teaching without a degree , if the thai government tried to get rid of them all it would cause problems, according to this link..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonobojt Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 38 minutes ago, khunpa said: Of course everything is possible, but honestly it is not easy. The most important thing is money, when it comes to living in Thailand. If you have the money, you can always find legal ways to stay here. With no education or special experience, it will be hard for you to find a job here, that can give you a work permit. If I was you, and you want to get away for some years, then look at some other countries that are more open to foreigners and where it is easier to stay long-term (maybe also get a job). PS. Although I also like Thailand, I can assure you that your views on the place, people etc. will change a lot, once you stay there long-term. And remember the main and only key to surviving long-term in Thailand as a foreigner is MONEY. You run out of that and your time is up. yes I have been to Vietnam and Cambodia, I really like Vietnam also, maybe I should see if I can work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, Bonobojt said: http://www.accessenglish.org/teaching-english-in-thailand-without-a-degree/ apparently 80% of English Teachers in Thailand are teaching without a degree , if the thai government tried to get rid of them all it would cause problems, according to this link..... Bonjobit- I do not believe the 'facts' presented in this commercial blog for a second. I urge you to investigate further. For example I know about 50 NES teachers in Thailand- out of those only 2 do not have a degree. Meanwhile Vietnam is getting tougher rapidly as far as I hear, although Cambodia is still more relaxed, not only in its qualification demands, but also its general lack of officiousness and other lifestyle issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The only job you could get would be teaching English illegally at a crappy school for next-to nothing. You'd never get promoted or a raise. It would be a hard existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Your still young, forget the girl, get a degree back home. Invest in yourself, an education is not something that can be taken away from you easily but once life starts to dictate, then the education will be hard to get. Thailand V's an education? no brainer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 This is a guy that spent seven years in the kitchen without getting promoted past KP. Lets not automatically assume he'd find a degree an easy thing to attain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Easier these days, to be honest I couldn't have done it 20 years ago, would have given up. I'm doing one now in between posts on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The way your mind works is a bit alarming, young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Bonobojt said: I have 7 years experience working in a kitchen as a kitchen porter or kitchen assistant but that is a job the Thai's can do, maybe my English and the fact I was born and raised in England is the only advantage I have to live and work in Thailand. Born and raised in England. Unfortunately, with globalisation, the natives are no longer in awe of the white man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) We fked that up didn't we. Edited October 4, 2016 by damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleelof Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 hours ago, khunpa said: I can assure you that your views on the place, people etc. will change a lot, once you stay there long-term. That is not necessarily true. I felt the same positive way about the Thais and Thailand after 10 years of living there. Thailand surly isn't for everyone. Unfortunately, many don't realize this and they just sit around and bad mouth Thailand and Thais. If you stay away from these types of losers, you will be doing yourself and your feeling about Thailand a HUGE favor. Not saying Khunpa is one of these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 It's always about a girl from an online dating site. How will you support yourself (and her) ? No degree...no future. 25 years old....wake up man...get some education. Then work for a decade, be frugal, save your quid and then re-assess your plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 When I was young I worked as a dish pig (KP), a barman, a post room boy a warehouseman, a porter, and lots of other jobs- none of them stopped me getting my degree. If I had started it later I'm sure I would have just done a better job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleelof Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I'm not one to push going to University. A university degree is becoming less and less necessary to succeed in life. However, if you want to go out and explore the world beyond being a tourist, a degree or special job skills are going to be very necessary. In this case, it would probably be worth the time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I was a dropout at school and decided to move to Thailand at age 22. I am now 51 years old and also I still make good money to the average farang that lives in Thailand but things has got tougher. Thanks Buddha, I got involved in the Software and IT industry in the early years and opened up a lot of doors but the years have changed. To the OP get a good degree, learn Thai and since you are still young learn a couple of more Asian languages and then make your move to Thailand but remember, to land a good job (150-300k), connections are very important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Of course everything is possible, but honestly it is not easy. The most important thing is money, when it comes to living in Thailand. If you have the money, you can always find legal ways to stay here. With no education or special experience, it will be hard for you to find a job here, that can give you a work permit. If I was you, and you want to get away for some years, then look at some other countries that are more open to foreigners and where it is easier to stay long-term (maybe also get a job). PS. Although I also like Thailand, I can assure you that your views on the place, people etc. will change a lot, once you stay there long-term. And remember the main and only key to surviving long-term in Thailand as a foreigner is MONEY. You run out of that and your time is up.His outlookIrregardless of him living in Thailand he just needs to visit TV for a while. This will help him discover the kind of people he's up against (his own kind) besides Thais. Residing here after a short while, we soon get to know the old Thai adage: No Money - No Honey !!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleelof Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, ScotBkk said: No Money - No Honey !!!! Really? Because I have many friends, and myself, who are married to Thais and I assure you, none of us have money. Perhaps one should look beyond the end of the bar for a mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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