eggers Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Guess, Bro Puppeteer will have to dig deep to help out + get some of his cronies to "pass the hat around"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpuy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Yingluck , read Thai Visa , this might help : Ad Best prices on flight tickets to any destination .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, eggers said: Guess, Bro Puppeteer will have to dig deep to help out + get some of his cronies to "pass the hat around"!! If brotherly love and her supporters dug deep to bail her out, that will be greatly annoy the junta as their plan to force her to flee has backfired. That will be embarassing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatproblem Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 If she cannot pay will she get the prison for 200 baht deducted everyday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, yellowboat said: She was elected. If she was not fulfilling her promises to the people, she would then loose an election. Deposing an elected government is the worst thing that can be done. You fail due process, universal suffrage and the people as a whole. Actually she was not deposed because she dissolved parliament in the December. She was however a caretaker PM and once again she was not deposed by the Army but by the courts, FYI Thaksin was also not deposed by a coup as he resigned formally from being the caretaker PM but took it back a few weeks later though he was never formally confirmed in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 A meager compensation for those who have been betrayed by her corrupt government her fail political has costed death of nine poor farmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, sweatalot said: she does have political power and it grows everyday. dreamer. Wishful thinking of people who call corruption democracy I have to admit that in a country with deeply ingrained corruption there still might be parts of the electorate who would wish her and her clan back in power - but not because they would prefer democracy actually, a lot of people liked her as an elected prime minister. ... And would love to have their old, elected government back. She is still very popular, more than her brother, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 35 minutes ago, than said: A meager compensation for those who have been betrayed by her corrupt government her fail political has costed death of nine poor farmers Let's also mourn for the deaths of the poor rubber farmers in the south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbourg Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 36billion baht that buys a looooooot of votes (and vuiton bags!)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Make it news when she pays up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 hours ago, jerojero said: Retribution plain and simple. However the hundreds of billions being now spent on stupidity like submarines, that's OK. If she is smart the cupboard will be bare. Maybe the government was counting on this "fine" money to pay for the submarines. All these shenanigans are a setup for the upcoming election to show novice politicians that "Step into my web said the spider to the fly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 hours ago, AGareth2 said: 30 days and what if she doesn't have the money? Is that really the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Let's also mourn for the deaths of the poor rubber farmers in the south. How many of them were there Eric? Was it down to rubber prices collapsing worldwide or the government not paying far more than market prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Doubt we get that far after she won the appeal with the Adminstrative Court. Pray tell, how will she prove that she wasn't negligent? With a list of excuses for meetings unattended, with parliamentary recordings of how her policy's progress was reported to the opposition, with the steps she took to reduce losses, or with a full accounting of the G2G deals, including hugely profitable secret commissions to carry them out, and the ones her ministers faked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, billd766 said: How many of them were there Eric? Was it down to rubber prices collapsing worldwide or the government not paying far more than market prices? You may want to know that the rice scheme was not the major factor for the suicide. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Rice-scheme-woes-not-major-factor-in-suicides-agen-30227201.html I got to say that the rice farmers suicides started to compound after Suthep started his demonstration and threats of the banks. At the time, rubber farmers commit suicide because they were hoping for government aid after they did all the heavy lifting for Suthep and the current government. http://www.asianews.network/content/opinion-sad-tale-thai-rubber-farmers-plunging-prices-and-deaf-politicians-7314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Thank you for posting those links Eric. There are people who like to push that bs about the suicides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Thailand's first female PM bullied for joining a similar scheme to most other civilised countries? helping poor farmers with subsidy? outrageous hounding any ex government minister UNLESS there is proof of corruption oh hang on there IS NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, LannaGuy said: Thailand's first female PM bullied for joining a similar scheme to most other civilised countries? helping poor farmers with subsidy? outrageous hounding any ex government minister UNLESS there is proof of corruption oh hang on there IS NONE Every Thai, whether they agree or not, understands that this is about vengeance. Only a few Falang see it as a real criminal/civil prosecution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpa Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Properly not relevant, but I think she is cute :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 If you take three sections from Thai society, students, red shirts and the Shinawatra family, make an example, all the rest will follow, they hope they will........................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 22 minutes ago, tbthailand said: Every Thai, whether they agree or not, understands that this is about vengeance. Only a few Falang see it as a real criminal/civil prosecution... I would say vengeful tactics by the Junta would be correct , for this is how the cowards operate and bash up students in alley ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Actually she was not deposed because she dissolved parliament in the December. She was however a caretaker PM and once again she was not deposed by the Army but by the courts, FYI Thaksin was also not deposed by a coup as he resigned formally from being the caretaker PM but took it back a few weeks later though he was never formally confirmed in that role. bild766, you have always struck me as a fairly level headed sensible sort of bloke, albeit one whose political views differ widely from mine.Do you really believe that Thaksin and Yingluck's dismissals from office were not engineered by those who were behind the Juntas which replaced them? Let's not even touch upon the subsequent legal proceedings brought by the usurpers of power, ( usurpers because they seized power when perfectly constitutional elections were due to be held).And certainly let's make no mention of this present farrago, when the penalty is being applied when the judicial process, let alone the verdict, is only in the early stages.How does it go? "Wheel the guilty bastards in and we'll give him a fair trial before we hang 'em..."Goodness me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Amazing Thailand, where treason is always in season and where the government will steal your money, if they can't get it by other means. The Shinawatra family should realize that earning the loyalty of the peasantry is dangerous business in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 8 hours ago, Baerboxer said: But being elected and then handing all power and decision making to your criminal brother is o k? Acting illegally is o k? She can talk to anyone she so chooses and that includes family members. If she was guilty of anything, it should have been handled in a court of law, not because some jowly army general decided he wanted to run the country. As bad as he rice scheme was, the coup is 10 times worse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, yellowboat said: She can talk to anyone she so chooses and that includes family members. If she was guilty of anything, it should have been handled in a court of law, not because some jowly army general decided he wanted to run the country. As bad as he rice scheme was, the coup is 10 times worse . Ok, let's take 2 clearly corrupt actions, issuing a passport to her fugitive brother and allowing him access to cabinet meetings. Who is going to investigate complaints and present the case to a court? Tarit and the DSI? the AG? Nobody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, LannaGuy said: Thailand's first female PM bullied for joining a similar scheme to most other civilised countries? helping poor farmers with subsidy? outrageous hounding any ex government minister UNLESS there is proof of corruption oh hang on there IS NONE Similar scheme to what other countries? Off budget, huge losses, no parliamentary reporting? Let us have just one example to support your casual lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: You may want to know that the rice scheme was not the major factor for the suicide. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Rice-scheme-woes-not-major-factor-in-suicides-agen-30227201.html I got to say that the rice farmers suicides started to compound after Suthep started his demonstration and threats of the banks. At the time, rubber farmers commit suicide because they were hoping for government aid after they did all the heavy lifting for Suthep and the current government. http://www.asianews.network/content/opinion-sad-tale-thai-rubber-farmers-plunging-prices-and-deaf-politicians-7314 Now silly old me, I thought that they committed suicide because the PTP government under Yingluck failed to pay them even though they promised that they would on a weekly basis. The revolving funds of the rice scheme were not enough even to repay the debt to the BAAC let alone pay the farmers what they were owed. I believe the farmers are all paid off now due to that "nice General Prayuth" but the BAAC is still owed money from the rice scheme. Once parliament is dissolved, no matter which party was in power, under Thai law they are not permitted to borrow any extra funds other than what is necessary to keep the government functioning. The reasoning behind that is so that the caretaker government cannot run up trillions of baht in loans that the incoming government will have to take the responsibility of paying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, billd766 said: Once parliament is dissolved, no matter which party was in power, under Thai law they are not permitted to borrow any extra funds other than what is necessary to keep the government functioning. Really beg the question as why Suthep and his PDRC goons harassed and threatened Krungthai and GSB not to lend money to BAAC to pay the farmers. If what you say is true, they wasted their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 15 hours ago, JAG said: Streamlined, efficient, the way ahead. Accuse. Punish. Independent of any legal proceedings. just curious about the status of any of the past military coup leaders. How are they doing? How much money do they have? How much money did they have before they took over the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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