Israel angered by UNESCO decision on holy site

[VillageIdiot]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

And that would be relevant...how?

 

 

He was probably being facetious - the little smiley suggests that.

Lighten up, you're taking it too seriously.

[Jingthing]

He was probably being facetious - the little smiley suggests that.
Lighten up, you're taking it too seriously.

B.S.

[gemini81]

They're always angered- this character is always like that in reaction to everything.

[Grouse]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

And that would be relevant...how?

 

 

 

I thought it was an issue of access?

 

[Ulysses G.]

6 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

it is Israelis started this and they are not stopping any time soon.

 

Nope. EVERY violent attack for almost 20 years was initiated by the Arabs until the Jews started responding in an organized way.

[gemini81]

1 hour ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Nope. EVERY violent attack for almost 20 years was initiated by the Arabs until the Jews started responding in an organized way.

You mean organizing white phosphorous and missiles against stones etc? How organized!

[Ulysses G.]

15 minutes ago, gemini81 said:

You mean organizing white phosphorous and missiles against stones etc? How organized!

 

No. I mean political attacks in Mandatory Palestine. Every attack from 1920-1936 was initiated by ARABS. After that, finally, the Jews organized and started fighting back.

 

This is a list of killings and massacres committed in Mandatory Palestine. It is restricted to incidents in which at least three people were deliberately killed. Note: The designation "responsible party" below refers to those believed to be the principle instigators of the violence. Where culpability is disputed or ambiguous, the sources cited support the chosen designation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine

[Jingthing]

So, bottom line here,  can the Israel demonization agenda reps here explain rationally why UNESCO insisted on referring the site with only with it's Muslim associated name and INTENTIONALLY refused to also name it with it's Jewish associated name?

 

Do you really think that's fair and peace promoting? 

Edited October 18, 2016 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Update on this shameful resolution that outrageously DENIES/ERASES the connection of Jews to the TEMPLE MOUNT did indeed PASS. 

Mexico did try to change their vote against, and Brazil has stated they won't vote for it next time unless recognition of the JEWISH connection to the site is acknowledged.

[Thorgal]

So, bottom line here,  can the Israel demonization agenda reps here explain rationally why UNESCO insisted on referring the site with only with it's Muslim associated name and INTENTIONALLY refused to also name it with it's Jewish associated name?

 

Do you really think that's fair and peace promoting? 

Here's why, and euh...Israel is mentioned as Occupying Power...

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0024/002443/244378e.pdf

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[Jingthing]

History is history, and  Israel demonizers / Jew haters can deny the Jewish connection to the Temple Mount in JERUSALEM all they like, but that doesn't make it the TRUTH.

 

 

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The body of historical, archeological and religious evidence that the Jewish Temple, the religion’s holiest sanctuary, stood at that site 2,000 years ago has had no bearing on the debate.
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Hasson asked a startled Worbes if UNESCO would accept a resolution that said the Christians had no ties to the Vatican or that Muslims had no ties to Mecca?

“Such a resolution would never happen,” Worbs replied.

 

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Analysis-Israel-wins-UNESCO-battle-but-not-the-war-470372

[CharlieK]

On 10/17/2016 at 4:58 AM, sirineou said:

who started what is debatable , what is not debatable is that might makes right.

 

Yet they say history is written by the victor not the loser!

[Fookhaht]

11 minutes ago, Grouse said:

 

Keep your yarmulke on, Morch. Clearly Jews have no sense of humour.

I find that comment extremely ironic having just watched several videos of the Israeli singing group, "The Voca People."   
 

 

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Seems all you got on offer are crude remarks, personal nonsense and off topic drivel.

Why don't you go and derail another topic, eh?

Jews don't have a sense of humor? Now, that's FUNNY!

http://www.cracked.com/blog/3-reasons-there-are-so-many-jews-in-comedy/

 

 

 

 

Edited October 19, 2016 by Jingthing

[metisdead]

Off topic baiting posts and replies have been removed. 

[sirineou]

On 10/19/2016 at 3:18 AM, CharlieK said:

 

Yet they say history is written by the victor not the loser!

They say a lot of things. Personalty I think they should stop

True history is written hundreds or thousands of years later when all political considerations are removed , and history is only an academic consideration..

 

[CharlieK]

7 hours ago, sirineou said:

They say a lot of things. Personalty I think they should stop

True history is written hundreds or thousands of years later when all political considerations are removed , and history is only an academic consideration..

 

 

As you are a "mentally ill member" I forgive you. History is the basis  for all political consideration. Always has been always will be.

[sirineou]

2 hours ago, CharlieK said:

 

As you are a "mentally ill member" I forgive you. History is the basis  for all political consideration. Always has been always will be.

you are correct but You are looking at the wrong end of the equation.  I weas refering to the other end.

X+History= political consideration

but    political consideration/x= history  if I remember my math correctly.

[up-country_sinclair]

The occupiers should get used to this sort of resolution passing in the UN.  The world has (finally) had enough, and there will be more meaningful actions to come.

 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, up-country_sinclair said:

The occupiers should get used to this sort of resolution passing in the UN.  The world has (finally) had enough, and there will be more meaningful actions to come.

 

 

You still don't get it. In terms of diplomacy, the voting was an improvement as far as Israel is concerned. Similar votes used to pass with more countries voting for, rather than abstaining. Since the vote, at least two countries expressed regret.

 

Using UNESCO to further political aims might be the norm, but is still not in line with the organization's nominal role. There are other UN forums more fitting for this purpose.

[Jingthing]

Yes, and now ITALY has turned towards sanity for the NEXT time:

 

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'To say Jerusalem and Judaism do not have a relationship is to argue that the sun gets dark'

Italian PM calls UNESCO vote ‘unacceptable and wrong’

Matteo Renzi says his envoy abstained in line with other EU countries, but intimates Rome may break European unity in future votes

 

 

 

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/italian-pm-calls-unesco-vote-unacceptable-and-wrong/

Edited October 21, 2016 by Jingthing

[Morch]

Another UNESCO panel to vote on text erasing Jewish ties to Jerusalem’s Temple Mount

http://www.timesofisrael.com/another-unesco-panel-to-vote-on-text-erasing-jewish-ties-to-jerusalems-temple-mt/

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

Another UNESCO panel to vote on text erasing Jewish ties to Jerusalem’s Temple Mount

http://www.timesofisrael.com/another-unesco-panel-to-vote-on-text-erasing-jewish-ties-to-jerusalems-temple-mt/

The irrational Jewish and/or Israel demonizers may win these kinds of battles, but overall they're losing the war. These are clear cases where the attacks are not only on Israel but on Jews in general. Shouldn't surprise anyone. 

Edited October 23, 2016 by Jingthing

[up-country_sinclair]

Yes, another UNESCO resolution (which will be a small step in righting decades of unrepentant greed and malevolence by the occupiers) appears set to easily pass.  

 

     

 

Bravo, UNESCO!

 

To paraphrase Shakespeare: the worm has turned.  

 

[Boon Mee]

Does   UNESCO have any relevance at all?

[Morch]

2 hours ago, up-country_sinclair said:

Yes, another UNESCO resolution (which will be a small step in righting decades of unrepentant greed and malevolence by the occupiers) appears set to easily pass.  

 

     

 

Bravo, UNESCO!

 

To paraphrase Shakespeare: the worm has turned.  

 

 

It is pretty much a similar resolution draft, submitted to a different UNESCO forum (World Heritage Committee). And from the quoted article: "Last week’s resolution referred to Israel as “the occupying power” at the holy sites. The new resolution does not.".

 

The resolution was sponsored by Kuwait, Lebanon and Tunisia. All, no doubt, great bastions of the ideals UNESCO is supposed to represent. The other countries with voting right on this forum include Angola , Azerbaijan, Burkina Faso, Croatia, Cuba, Finland, Indonesia, Jamaica, Kazakhstan, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Tanzania, Turkey, Vietnam and Zimbabwe.

 

Not truly expecting clapping members to have any real insights regarding the issue, and apparently even some of the Palestinian supporters are baffled: "...an ambassador from a leading Arab state had told him he did not understand what the Palestinians were trying to accomplish with their resolutions...".

[Grouse]

Are you lot STILL going on about this? How about a sense of proportion?