rooster59 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Six More Arrests In Bangkok Terror Raid By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter Police commandos raid a building Monday in Bangkok as part of a counterterrorism operation. BANGKOK — Police operations in connection with reports of an plot to detonate car bombs in the capital city continued Saturday, with six more people taken into custody, bringing the known number of people in detention to 21. The sweeping arrests, which began Monday, alarmed civil right groups because authorities have not disclosed the whereabouts of many of the suspects or when they will be released. There are also concerns the military, not police, is holding the suspects. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2016/10/15/six-arrests-bangkok-terror-raid/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-10-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 As I've said before, absolutely no evidence at all, simply arresting innocent people, here they claim most are kratom users, geez RTP, you are just lowlife, even if they are users, how do they justify the raids on terrorism grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Got to look as if something's being done and is successful. If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Oh the police-bodywarmer from MBK.....and they even brought a photographer with them during the raid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Perhaps these suspects could be kept under house arrest at the homes of the leaders of the civil rights group? Actions speak a thousand words more... Edited October 16, 2016 by trogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Rorri said: As I've said before, absolutely no evidence at all, simply arresting innocent people, here they claim most are kratom users, geez RTP, you are just lowlife, even if they are users, how do they justify the raids on terrorism grounds. Would it be better if they waited until they set off a few bombs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob9 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 They did a great job IMO - lock 'em up til they are convinced they are not guilty - forever if they have any doubts - execute if guilty. These process of laws the liberal human rights wackos complain about were written for normal human beings who commit crimes (murder, robbery, rape, drugs, etc). These are not suspected criminals, they are suspected terrorists and as such they do not and should not come under the 'due process of law' when it comes to apprehension and detention - for obvious reasons (obvious except to liberals - that includes all human rights organisations and civil liberties groups). If they ran the world any soldier who shot at an opponent before proving he was an enemy combatant would be charged and convicted of some human rights law breach. A few in jail for years with no charges and a few more executed, and all done ignoring all the idiotic civil liberty groups, will make others think twice before deciding to kill innocent people with bombs (and that could just as easily be you or I). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 The problem with arbitrary arrests, regardless of where, is that we are never sure if actual "bad" guys are being interned or political opponents. Hence the rule of law, indeed a faulty system, but at least the authorities are obliged to prove malfeasance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, Rancid said: The problem with arbitrary arrests, regardless of where, is that we are never sure if actual "bad" guys are being interned or political opponents. Hence the rule of law, indeed a faulty system, but at least the authorities are obliged to prove malfeasance. So........have and relatives or friends of those arrested come forward to claim political persecution, or are you just flying a kite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, halloween said: So........have and relatives or friends of those arrested come forward to claim political persecution, or are you just flying a kite? I doubt they would come forward. Too busy procreating more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 50 minutes ago, Rancid said: The problem with arbitrary arrests, regardless of where, is that we are never sure if actual "bad" guys are being interned or political opponents. Hence the rule of law, indeed a faulty system, but at least the authorities are obliged to prove malfeasance. Around the world, governments are using the rule of law to clamp down on their enemies. Under the guise of the wars on drugs and terror, our rights to security in our homes, thoughts and words are going the way of the dodo. Nixon's (and most Repubs') enemies were blacks and hippies. Hence the draconian laws on crack cocaine and marijuana. The FBI and IRS are used repeatedly against entities that the powers that be don't like. Police departments around the USA are arresting and confiscating money from drivers- with only a vague suspicion of ill gotten gains. In the UK, it seems just associating with people committing crimes is enough to get locked up for decades. So it's certainly not unique to less-than-transparent governments, including Thailand. Sadly, they're in crowded company nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Rorri said: As I've said before, absolutely no evidence at all, simply arresting innocent people, here they claim most are kratom users, geez RTP, you are just lowlife, even if they are users, how do they justify the raids on terrorism grounds. and how do you know they are innocent? btw kratom is an illegal drug here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, halloween said: Would it be better if they waited until they set off a few bombs? You are probably right as the RTP doesn't seem to know about SURVEILANCE. You know that process used by professional police forces to confirm INTENT, ORGANIZATION, TARGETS, etc. - all the things necessary to not only assure meaningful apprehension but to assure protection of planned targets. Otherwise, law enforcement might waste time and resources pursuing innocent people or low-level compartmentalized participants while allowing the organizers to escape and further replan their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, impulse said: Around the world, governments are using the rule of law to clamp down on their enemies. Under the guise of the wars on drugs and terror, our rights to security in our homes, thoughts and words are going the way of the dodo. Nixon's (and most Repubs') enemies were blacks and hippies. Hence the draconian laws on crack cocaine and marijuana. The FBI and IRS are used repeatedly against entities that the powers that be don't like. Police departments around the USA are arresting and confiscating money from drivers- with only a vague suspicion of ill gotten gains. In the UK, it seems just associating with people committing crimes is enough to get locked up for decades. So it's certainly not unique to less-than-transparent governments, including Thailand. Sadly, they're in crowded company nowadays. The irony! Enemies are blacks and hippies. Cracked down with draconian laws. And this produced a black president... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, trogers said: The irony! Enemies are blacks and hippies. Cracked down with draconian laws. And this produced a black president... ? I believe you're glossing over the 40 years of history that have transpired since Nixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, impulse said: Around the world, governments are using the rule of law to clamp down on their enemies. Under the guise of the wars on drugs and terror, our rights to security in our homes, thoughts and words are going the way of the dodo. Nixon's (and most Repubs') enemies were blacks and hippies. Hence the draconian laws on crack cocaine and marijuana. The FBI and IRS are used repeatedly against entities that the powers that be don't like. Police departments around the USA are arresting and confiscating money from drivers- with only a vague suspicion of ill gotten gains. In the UK, it seems just associating with people committing crimes is enough to get locked up for decades. So it's certainly not unique to less-than-transparent governments, including Thailand. Sadly, they're in crowded company nowadays. All govts are the real enemy in the world.These draconian laws are to control the people and anybody who opposes them is put away,one way or another.Some of the people have woken up that the powers are just playing us off against each other for their own gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Life's a $hit sandwich. The more bread you have, the less $hit you have to eat. "Suspected" terrorists are better in the slammer than walking the streets. The niceties of determining whether the threat was real or otherwise can come later, but after the big boom, killing dozens or hundreds, there are those who will be bleating "I told you so" if they weren't incarcerated. Regrettably there are those opposing that course of action, and they will be the same ones bleating if a terrorist attack is carried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, halloween said: Would it be better if they waited until they set off a few bombs? if your loved ones were killed or seriously injured in one of the bombs would you still say the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, oldgent said: if your loved ones were killed or seriously injured in one of the bombs would you still say the same If your loved ones were the guys locked up for just looking suspicious, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, impulse said: If your loved ones were the guys locked up for just looking suspicious, would you? sorry but we are not on the same wave if there is no evidence or proof then they would be released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, oldgent said: sorry but we are not on the same wave if there is no evidence or proof then they would be released not at the moment in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, oldgent said: sorry but we are not on the same wave if there is no evidence or proof then they would be released Google Koh Tao Burmese, then come back and say that again with a straight face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, AGareth2 said: not at the moment in Thailand and you have supreme knowledge of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, impulse said: Google Koh Tao Burmese, then come back and say that again with a straight face. I will give you that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 rolling 12 days detention upto 84 days also confessions and military courts with no appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 minute ago, AGareth2 said: rolling 12 days detention upto 84 days also confessions and military courts with no appeal And jobs lost and families going hungry and reputations in ruins, even if they're eventually exonerated and released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, impulse said: Google Koh Tao Burmese, then come back and say that again with a straight face. I see. So detaining 21 scapegoats will stop the boom boom boom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgent Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Just now, impulse said: And jobs lost and families going hungry and reputations in ruins, even if they're eventually exonerated and released. at least they would be still ALIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 6 hours ago, halloween said: Would it be better if they waited until they set off a few bombs? Where's the EVIDENCE to show they are terrorists, where's the evidence of bombs... geez They have shown NO proof at all, in fact of 40 previously arrested only 15 remain in detention, or so they say. So, why where 25, if not more, arrested in the first place. You do know what PROOF is, don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Good for the RTP and The Military. If you are a suspect it's because of the people you associate with In The States every Murder of innocent people by terrorists could possibly,have been prevented if the terrorists and their families had been detained and questioned. But the pussy PC politicians are afraid to use profiling. I say if you suspect a terrorist, due to phone messages, inside wire taps, Internet chatter:. You should have the legal right to detain the person, spouse, mother, father, sister,brother if they are all in close proximity even the dog if it will prevent the murder of innocent shoppers at a mall, nightclub, or walking the streets. Hard line, yes; but if people are willing to kill innocent people, you need hard line tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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