SheungWan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: UK inflation hits 2.9%. Thanks Brexit! 55 minutes ago, bartender100 said: UK is now the second largest global power, claims think tank as it rejects the ‘doom and gloom’ around Brexit Henry Jackson Society think tank says UK is a 'leading global power nation' Its Audit of Geopolitical Capacity puts the country before Germany and France The report finds the US and UK command ‘astonishing lead’ in global influence The Henry Jackson Society rejects the ‘doom and gloom’ around Brexit and finds that the UK remains a ‘leading global power nation’. Its report, an ‘Audit of Geopolitical Capacity’ puts the UK ahead of EU nations such as Germany and France. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4874780/UK-second-largest-global-power-says-think-tank.html So, then, inflation isn't 2.9% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 4 hours ago, aright said: For gods sake don't make statements like this. We will now get chapter and verse on "it's true they make other machinery but it' s of very poor quality and you should expect this from a company run by Hamsters; best buy the good ones from Germany) " Please don't say "don't". It's good gear anyway and they sell shiploads of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, bartender100 said: UK is now the second largest global power Actually UK is the largest "global" power according to Researchers at European Geostrategy. Because it is the only country they identified as a "global" power. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/study-finds-uk-is-second-most-powerful-country-in-the-world/ According to a report on globalization from Credit Suisse on the world's strongest militaries , UK is ranked #9. http://www.businessinsider.com/these-are-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries-ranked-2016-4/#no-9-uk-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 A good article on the reporting of Brexit https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/brexit-media-coverage-ignores-good-news-theres-lots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, aright said: A good article on the reporting of Brexit https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/brexit-media-coverage-ignores-good-news-theres-lots/ by Kathy Gyngell co-editor of The Conservative Woman, a Hard Brexit supporting rag. Basically the article is just a collection of 'bits' and hardly amounts to any strategy towards Brexit which is the dog that didn't bark in the night in this shallow piece. Emblematic of the Government's own policy right now of muttering incantations as a substitute for process and timelines. No wonder the EU are confused what they have in front of them. On the other hand, just as David Davis gives some signal of being sensible (maybe), the Hard Brexiteers are not quite happy with that and so are getting ready to embrace creepy Rees-Mogg as the Hard Brexiteer's latest and greatest ecumenical authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 49 minutes ago, SheungWan said: by Kathy Gyngell co-editor of The Conservative Woman, a Hard Brexit supporting rag. Basically the article is just a collection of 'bits' and hardly amounts to any strategy towards Brexit which is the dog that didn't bark in the night in this shallow piece. Emblematic of the Government's own policy right now of muttering incantations as a substitute for process and timelines. No wonder the EU are confused what they have in front of them. On the other hand, just as David Davis gives some signal of being sensible (maybe), the Hard Brexiteers are not quite happy with that and so are getting ready to embrace creepy Rees-Mogg as the Hard Brexiteer's latest and greatest ecumenical authority. Crikey! And he accuses others of posting gibberish! Any chance of a weather report from Planet Tharg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 16 hours ago, SheungWan said: UK inflation hits 2.9%. Thanks Brexit! So called democracy where 17 million have determined the living standards of 60 odd million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 15 hours ago, bartender100 said: UK is now the second largest global power, claims think tank as it rejects the ‘doom and gloom’ around Brexit Henry Jackson Society think tank says UK is a 'leading global power nation' Its Audit of Geopolitical Capacity puts the country before Germany and France The report finds the US and UK command ‘astonishing lead’ in global influence The Henry Jackson Society rejects the ‘doom and gloom’ around Brexit and finds that the UK remains a ‘leading global power nation’. Its report, an ‘Audit of Geopolitical Capacity’ puts the UK ahead of EU nations such as Germany and France. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4874780/UK-second-largest-global-power-says-think-tank.html People forget that reporting is historical. Every investment company will tell you that past performance is no guarantee of future returns. The UK had derived a great deal of global influence from being a leading member of the EU, something that has now come to an end. It would be great to see a similar report in 5 years time but very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, sandyf said: People forget that reporting is historical. Every investment company will tell you that past performance is no guarantee of future returns. The UK had derived a great deal of global influence from being a leading member of the EU, something that has now come to an end. It would be great to see a similar report in 5 years time but very unlikely. More goo. The only leading influence that the UK has within the EU has been in terms of net cash contributions (Rank 2). Any influence that the UK still has in the world has origins that go back far beyond the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, aright said: A good article on the reporting of Brexit https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/brexit-media-coverage-ignores-good-news-theres-lots/ How do you define "good news", some companies make a profit from increased tourism and exports while the whole population face rising prices. As for BMW, only the delusional would think it is set in stone. http://www.bbc.com/news/av/business-41242474/bmw-we-need-free-trade-after-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, sandyf said: It would be great to see a similar report "UK is now the second largest global power, claims think tank," a neo-conservative British think tank described as right-wing ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society ... as in a nationalist organization - a dubious claim. It would be great to see a report from a more independent analysis. According to a report on globalization from Credit Suisse on the world's strongest militaries , UK is ranked #9, etc. See my post #9633. It is important, however, that the UK maintain it's armed forces not only for the sake of the nation for for the sake of its allies and trade partners. For that it needs a healthy economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Srikcir said: "UK is now the second largest global power, claims think tank," a neo-conservative British think tank described as right-wing ..." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society ... as in a nationalist organization - a dubious claim. It would be great to see a report from a more independent analysis. According to a report on globalization from Credit Suisse on the world's strongest militaries , UK is ranked #9, etc. See my post #9633. It is important, however, that the UK maintain it's armed forces not only for the sake of the nation for for the sake of its allies and trade partners. For that it needs a healthy economy. Please do not truncate comments out of context - your quote "It would be great to see a similar report" is a distortion of what I said, " It would be great to see a similar report in 5 years time " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 11 hours ago, aright said: A good article on the reporting of Brexit https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/brexit-media-coverage-ignores-good-news-theres-lots/ 9 hours ago, SheungWan said: by Kathy Gyngell co-editor of The Conservative Woman, a Hard Brexit supporting rag. Basically the article is just a collection of 'bits' and hardly amounts to any strategy towards Brexit which is the dog that didn't bark in the night in this shallow piece. Emblematic of the Government's own policy right now of muttering incantations as a substitute for process and timelines. No wonder the EU are confused what they have in front of them. On the other hand, just as David Davis gives some signal of being sensible (maybe), the Hard Brexiteers are not quite happy with that and so are getting ready to embrace creepy Rees-Mogg as the Hard Brexiteer's latest and greatest ecumenical authority. 9 hours ago, Khun Han said: Crikey! And he accuses others of posting gibberish! Any chance of a weather report from Planet Tharg? Is it plain gibberish or "whisky in the jar" gibberish. I suppose the end result is the same. SheungWan is typical of a few who when they cannot create a constructive argument around the substance of the article, which is what debate is all about, bad mouth the author. They also like to get themselves into non related comfort zones where they like to insult people who don't get a mention in the article. Shame really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Japanese investment not so secure as some seem to think. Deepening uncertainties over the direction and timetable of Brexitnegotiations may force Toyota to shift some UK production elsewhere if they are not addressed, the Japanese carmaker warned on Tuesday. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/toyota-brexit-uk-car-production-warning-plants-burnaston-frankfurt-show-a7944141.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 7 hours ago, sandyf said: Please do not truncate comments out of context - your quote "It would be great to see a similar report" is a distortion of what I said, " It would be great to see a similar report in 5 years time " It would be great to hear your views on what, with the UK gone, the EU will look like 10 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It would be great to hear your views on what, with the UK gone, the EU will look like 10 years from now. A bit like Somalia or Eratria i should think and with far far more Mosques.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, i claudius said: A bit like Somalia or Eratria i should think and with far far more Mosques. Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app IMO with French, German and Netherlands euroscepticism increasing year on year it will just require one anti-Euro government to get elected and it's all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, sandyf said: Japanese investment not so secure as some seem to think. Deepening uncertainties over the direction and timetable of Brexitnegotiations may force Toyota to shift some UK production elsewhere if they are not addressed, the Japanese carmaker warned on Tuesday. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/toyota-brexit-uk-car-production-warning-plants-burnaston-frankfurt-show-a7944141.html Not stopping the Norwegians investing in the UK OSLO (Reuters) - Norway’s $830 billion (£584 billion) sovereign wealth fund, the world’s biggest, does not see the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union as a significant risk to its investments, its chief executive told Reuters on Wednesday. The comments came as the fund reported an overall fourth-quarter gain but said it may need to support government spending to the tune of 80 billion crowns (£6.6 billion) this year. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-norway-swf/norways-830-billion-wealth-fund-to-invest-in-uk-regardless-of-brexit-idUKKCN0WB1NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Bill Gates view http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/13/bill-gates-says-britain-has-potential-retain-global-science/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Dulux backs Brexit Britain with new state-of-the-art £100m paint plant http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-4877430/Dulux-backs-Brexit-Britain-new-100m-paint-plant.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, aright said: IMO with French, German and Netherlands euroscepticism increasing year on year it will just require one anti-Euro government to get elected and it's all over Really, it's been increasing. Can't be much of an increase, if there is one at all. http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/15/most-europeans-judge-brexit-as-bad-for-eu-and-uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 hours ago, bartender100 said: Not stopping the Norwegians investing in the UK OSLO (Reuters) - Norway’s $830 billion (£584 billion) sovereign wealth fund, the world’s biggest, does not see the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union as a significant risk to its investments, its chief executive told Reuters on Wednesday. The comments came as the fund reported an overall fourth-quarter gain but said it may need to support government spending to the tune of 80 billion crowns (£6.6 billion) this year. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-norway-swf/norways-830-billion-wealth-fund-to-invest-in-uk-regardless-of-brexit-idUKKCN0WB1NJ Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, aright said: Bill Gates view http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/13/bill-gates-says-britain-has-potential-retain-global-science/ Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, bartender100 said: Dulux backs Brexit Britain with new state-of-the-art £100m paint plant http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-4877430/Dulux-backs-Brexit-Britain-new-100m-paint-plant.html Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: Really, it's been increasing. Can't be much of an increase, if there is one at all. http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/15/most-europeans-judge-brexit-as-bad-for-eu-and-uk/ According to the Spectator 83% of Dutch voters want more influence over future transfer of powers to the EU and 61% want a referendum on any further enlargement of the EU. In Germany Eurosceptic party' s are polling better than they have ever. Mrs Merkel, not so long ago the darling of the Germans, is having to fight much harder to try to win an election. Marine Le Pen increases her vote year on year. Macron, the darling of the French a few months ago, has an approval rating now of only 40% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 hours ago, bartender100 said: Dulux backs Brexit Britain with new state-of-the-art £100m paint plant an utmost ridiculous headline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Naam said: an utmost ridiculous headline Your reasons for saying that would be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, aright said: IMO with French, German and Netherlands euroscepticism increasing year on year it will just require one anti-Euro government to get elected and it's all over Why all the anti EU rhetoric? You want to leave, fine, but why wish harm on others? That's rather unpleasant don't you think? Here's what I think: you hope the EU fails because if the UK does badly and the EU flourished you would be left looking pretty bloody stupid? Richtig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Grouse said: Why all the anti EU rhetoric? You want to leave, fine, but why wish harm on others? That's rather unpleasant don't you think? Here's what I think: you hope the EU fails because if the UK does badly and the EU flourished you would be left looking pretty bloody stupid? Rechtig? What?????? Bad day????. Why so angry???? Your reading skills have deserted you. I am not anti EU. All I am doing is giving my opinion as to what I think will happen in Europe. I take no pleasure or find insentience in my conclusion....it's not my style. Can you tell me where I said I wished harm on them? I know news wise it has not been a great day for the remainers but don't take it out on me. Have a glass of wine and relax. Having invited many remainers to tell us what they feel the state of the union will be 10 years from now your tribe prove reluctant to define their Garden of Eden. Why not give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 8 hours ago, bartender100 said: Not stopping the Norwegians investing in the UK OSLO (Reuters) - Norway’s $830 billion (£584 billion) sovereign wealth fund, the world’s biggest, does not see the prospect of Britain leaving the European Union as a significant risk to its investments, its chief executive told Reuters on Wednesday. The comments came as the fund reported an overall fourth-quarter gain but said it may need to support government spending to the tune of 80 billion crowns (£6.6 billion) this year. http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-norway-swf/norways-830-billion-wealth-fund-to-invest-in-uk-regardless-of-brexit-idUKKCN0WB1NJ I linked to an article earlier this year on this particular investment fund increasing it's investments considerably in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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