May ready for tough talks over Brexit

[Grouse]

4 hours ago, citybiker said:

I think the media & Labour are hungry for the Government to sack someone, just for political point scoring if anything else.

I don’t think she’s frightened to sack anyone (yet) as it’ll distract from the primary process of getting Brexit right, a reshuffle is inevitable however I think May really needs to get a grip of her current cabinet.


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She doesn't dare sack Boris because he will mount a campaign against her.

 

I know a nice little knackers yard in Derbyshire....

[Grouse]

5 hours ago, Grouse said:

She doesn't dare sack Boris because he will mount a campaign against her.

 

I know a nice little knackers yard in Derbyshire....

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41509198

 

Brexit is for the birds

 

The German Adler is flying away!

[aright]

36 minutes ago, Grouse said:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41509198

 

Brexit is for the birds

 

The German Adler is flying away!

I thought he was American and played harmonica.

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, aright said:

I thought he was American and played harmonica.

Moved to London in the early 1950s.

Edited October 5, 2017 by SheungWan

[aright]

You are bringing tears to my eyes now. One of my earliest childhood memories was a Christmas stocking which contained a Woolworth's mouth organ. I had no formal lessons but learnt to play passably. Ten or twelve years ago I was regaling my children with stories about my childhood  Christmas' and  how tough it was when I was a lad.... "When I was lad we use to live in't shoebox on side of A62" sort of thing. The following Christmas they gave me a Hohner Harmonica (just realised its German and you can now add it to pencils and cars as a best buy). I played it and still do occasionally but it doesn't have the throatiness of the Woolworths mouth organ which has long since rusted away.

I am a big fan of Django Reinhardt ......love him and Larry Adler doing Melancholy Baby  

 

[Scott]

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[Basil B]

On 05/10/2017 at 11:01 AM, Grouse said:

She doesn't dare sack Boris because he will mount a campaign against her.

 

I know a nice little knackers yard in Derbyshire....

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Boris Johnson tells Tories to 'get behind' Theresa May

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has urged colleagues to "get behind" the PM because "people are fed up with this malarkey".

In a WhatsApp message he urged Tories "talk about nothing except policies".

It comes after ex-party chairman Grant Shapps said about 30 Tory MPs backed his call for a leadership contest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41534552

I think the last person I would want behind me is a back stabber...

[lungbing]

On 10/5/2017 at 5:01 PM, Grouse said:

She doesn't dare sack Boris because he will mount a campaign against her.

 

I know a nice little knackers yard in Derbyshire....

So do I, it's called "Pride Park"

[elliss]

On 9/22/2017 at 10:30 PM, mommysboy said:

I've been keeping a low profile lately in order to see if something positive is going to happen.    But the life of me I can't see the point based on upholding a very flimsy mandate.  In law of contract, there is a concept of frustration- when something simply can not be reasonably done.  And in politics there is 'heft' which is self explanatory.   I just honestly think this is a no-goer.

 

     Flimsy mandate ,  add a  UK.  Prime Minister whose  dismissal is expected, at any time .

     UK, will pay dearly for  the foolish Brexit decision. Reap what you sow,  economic catastrophe .

Edited October 7, 2017 by elliss

[aright]

Unemployment rates in the EU August 2017

Greece --21.2%

Spain--17.1% 

Italy--11.2%

Croatia--10.9%

France--9.8%

UK--4.3%

In the EU there are 25 countries with higher unemployment than the UK.

What did you say about economic disaster? 

[Khun Han]

49 minutes ago, aright said:

Unemployment rates in the EU August 2017

Greece --21.2%

Spain--17.1% 

Italy--11.2%

Croatia--10.9%

France--9.8%

UK--4.3%

In the EU there are 25 countries with higher unemployment than the UK.

What did you say about economic disaster? 

 

And let's not forget that those figures are slanted in the other EU countries' favour because of the nett migration of EU nationals to the UK.

[Grouse]

I suggest all EU countries follow our example and devalue by 15%, introduce zero hours contracts and send all the young people off to uni to read dressmaking and social sciences.....?

[adammike]

I watched Phillip hammond give his speech at their conference,I thought they had resurrected Dennis Healy's dead sheep,JC must be quacking in his doc martens. 

[adammike]

1 hour ago, aright said:

Unemployment rates in the EU August 2017

Greece --21.2%

Spain--17.1% 

Italy--11.2%

Croatia--10.9%

France--9.8%

UK--4.3%

In the EU there are 25 countries with higher unemployment than the UK.

What did you say about economic disaster? 

OK but there are a lot of zero hour contracts and so called self employed etc just ask the Ryan air pilots.they are not jobs as we know them Jim.

[SheungWan]

14 minutes ago, Grouse said:

I suggest all EU countries follow our example and devalue by 15%, introduce zero hours contracts and send all the young people off to uni to read dressmaking and social sciences.....?

Maybe you should write a letter to the Department of Education suggesting that the London College of Fashion should close down all its courses in dressmaking.

[SheungWan]

19 minutes ago, adammike said:

OK but there are a lot of zero hour contracts and so called self employed etc just ask the Ryan air pilots.they are not jobs as we know them Jim.

The pilots are now walking, many to Norwegian Air, which is creating the current crisis at Ryanair of shortage of staff. I believe Ryanair currently employs within Irish conditions of service rather than UK ones?

Edited October 7, 2017 by SheungWan

[SheungWan]

If recession is on its way, May's goose is cooked: http://tinyurl.com/ycs4p8s6

[aright]

In May of this year there were 905000 people in the UK on zero hours contracts, mainly working class people.  That's' 2.8% of people in employment. That's 1 in 35 people. Shameful isn't it!

In a recent survey 32% of people wanted more hours 68% did not. IMO if you asked those working class people on 40 hour contracts if they wanted more hours more than a third would say yes. Love the OT.

Why, when faced with unemployment statistics, do people bring out the old chestnut about zero hours contracts...68% of the workers want them. Sorry I forgot Remainer's don't like democratic survey votes results do they?

The problem is easily fixed however. If you want to remain in Europe, eliminate  zero hours contracts , renationalise almost everything, vote for Jeremy  he has convinced many his solutions are emollient and benign. Don't let any reservations you have about interventionist, big state socialism deter you.    

 

[Khun Han]

48 minutes ago, adammike said:

2 hours ago, aright said:

Unemployment rates in the EU August 2017

Greece --21.2%

Spain--17.1% 

Italy--11.2%

Croatia--10.9%

France--9.8%

UK--4.3%

In the EU there are 25 countries with higher unemployment than the UK.

What did you say about economic disaster? 

OK but there are a lot of zero hour contracts and so called self employed etc just ask the Ryan air pilots.they are not jobs as we know them Jim.

 

I wonder how employment contracts and working conditions in the EU countries that provide most of our migrant workforce stack up against the UK ones you deride?

[Orac]

If our unemployment figures are so low currently  then it begs the questions how will they be effected when we leave the EU, how much is the EU holding us back economically and how much of an issue is immigration since it is clearly needed to prop up the labour market?

[Jip99]

16 minutes ago, Orac said:

If our unemployment figures are so low currently  then it begs the questions how will they be effected when we leave the EU, how much is the EU holding us back economically and how much of an issue is immigration since it is clearly needed to prop up the labour market?

 

Of course immigration is needed  it has been since the Second World War.

 

 

The issue on immigration is about control.

[bert bloggs]

Immigration to the UK is not the problem ,its the sort of immigrants that come is the main problem .The ones like the Polish who work hard are welcome the ones like Romanians who just scrounge and the other lot who want to convert us to their faith are not

[Grouse]

7 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Maybe you should write a letter to the Department of Education suggesting that the London College of Fashion should close down all its courses in dressmaking.

I was being facetious as you well know

[sandyf]

9 hours ago, aright said:

Unemployment rates in the EU August 2017

Greece --21.2%

Spain--17.1% 

Italy--11.2%

Croatia--10.9%

France--9.8%

UK--4.3%

In the EU there are 25 countries with higher unemployment than the UK.

What did you say about economic disaster? 

In April of this year Thailand was 1.2%. Is the UK on the way to becoming a 3rd world country?

http://www.nso.go.th/sites/2014en/Lists/NewsUpdate/Attachments/34/summary april.pdf

[aright]

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

In April of this year Thailand was 1.2%. Is the UK on the way to becoming a 3rd world country?

http://www.nso.go.th/sites/2014en/Lists/NewsUpdate/Attachments/34/summary april.pdf

Sandy, dear boy, I think you may have asked the question the wrong way around. Let me rephrase....With an employment rate of 1.2% is Thailand now a first world country?

Answer ....No!

When the country provides its residents with water you can drink from a tap, when it significantly reduces infant under 5 mortality rates from 14 per 1000 live births , when it can provide its children with a decent education( Mahidol its best University is ranked 516 in the world), when it looses its reputation for having the highest prevalence of HIV in Asia, when it has a Highway Code people understand and obey and when it learns how to play cricket,  etc. etc..........maybe

Having said all that I love Thailand to bits, visit 2-3 times a year for business and pleasure, in fact will be there next month in part to visit a friend who retired to Pattaya last year. He has said he will take me to bars with very pretty girls and promised to pay for me to have a Boris Johnson. Do the Bar Girls do hair cuts as well now?    

[SheungWan]

12 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Maybe you should write a letter to the Department of Education suggesting that the London College of Fashion should close down all its courses in dressmaking.

 

5 hours ago, Grouse said:

I was being facetious as you well know

I usually find  that those who have a go at what they perceive to be 'soft subjects' are quite serious, tongue in cheek or otherwise. Now whereas it might be ill-advised for some entering higher education to study supposedly 'easier' subjects with uncertain employment prospects, there is no way that dress-making should be linked in with such. The fashion industry is a significant contributor to UK exports and London Fashion Week is a big deal. It might not correspond with an old school 'spanner's' idea of what is a 'real' job but that is their problem. It is potentially both creative, skilled and profit-making and dare one say it more of the future for UK industry. Whether your comment was facetious or not, I don't care. It was just plain wrong.

[SheungWan]

6 minutes ago, aright said:

Sandy, dear boy, I think you may have asked the question the wrong way around. Let me rephrase....With an employment rate of 1.2% is Thailand now a first world country?

Answer ....No!

When the country provides its residents with water you can drink from a tap, when it significantly reduces infant under 5 mortality rates from 14 per 1000 live births , when it can provide its children with a decent education( Mahidol its best University is ranked 516 in the world), when it looses its reputation for having the highest prevalence of HIV in Asia, when it has a Highway Code people understand and obey and when it learns how to play cricket,  etc. etc..........maybe

Having said all that I love Thailand to bits, visit 2-3 times a year for business and pleasure, in fact will be there next month in part to visit a friend who retired to Pattaya last year. He has said he will take me to bars with very pretty girls and promised to pay for me to have a Boris Johnson. Do the Bar Girls do hair cuts as well now?    

However low the university system in Thailand may be ranked internationally, the vast majority of UK retirees in Pattaya still wouldn't get in to any of the institutions. (putting aside language criteria just for the mo'). My research scientifically based on years of sitting in bars and listening to background and foreground chatter.

[sandyf]

18 hours ago, aright said:

Sandy, dear boy, I think you may have asked the question the wrong way around. Let me rephrase....With an employment rate of 1.2% is Thailand now a first world country?

Answer ....No!

When the country provides its residents with water you can drink from a tap, when it significantly reduces infant under 5 mortality rates from 14 per 1000 live births , when it can provide its children with a decent education( Mahidol its best University is ranked 516 in the world), when it looses its reputation for having the highest prevalence of HIV in Asia, when it has a Highway Code people understand and obey and when it learns how to play cricket,  etc. etc..........maybe

Having said all that I love Thailand to bits, visit 2-3 times a year for business and pleasure, in fact will be there next month in part to visit a friend who retired to Pattaya last year. He has said he will take me to bars with very pretty girls and promised to pay for me to have a Boris Johnson. Do the Bar Girls do hair cuts as well now?    

So you accept that quoting a low unemployment figure does not mean a great deal or have any reflection on the economic situation.

[aright]

5 hours ago, sandyf said:

So you accept that quoting a low unemployment figure does not mean a great deal or have any reflection on the economic situation.

No I don't.  "does not mean a great deal"?  If it didn't why do political parties use it as an economic indicator when it goes up or down. The great unwashed also look on it as an indicator as to how well the government is doing. Our current Government always talk unemployment figures when they are larging themselves because they have done so well. Corbyn only touches the figures if they go up significantly.

I also think comparisons between third and first world countries in some instances can be apples and eggs time. 

Edited October 9, 2017 by aright

[elliss]

Zero hour contracts soon to be the norm, shameful.  Civil servants, the brown tie brigade, of course will continue to be protected .

 I fondly remember the days of company pensions  for the working man ,  thanks BP. 

Edited October 9, 2017 by elliss