Thai lady boy and Lebanese man arrested for 5 million baht ATM thefts in Pattaya

[rooster59]

Thai lady boy and Lebanese man arrested for 5 million baht ATM thefts in Pattaya

 

Image: Daily News

 

PATTAYA:-- Police have arrested a Thai lady boy and a Lebanese man who were touring the Pattaya area with fake ATM cards stealing cash.

 

Arrested were Sirirat Phromphakdee (or Tom) 42, a Nakorn Pathom native and Lebanese man Mohammad Kanjee, 36. Taken into evidence were seven fake ATM cards, a Vios car and other key evidence.

 

The arrests followed a tip off from Kasikorn bank that a team of scammers were stealing money from ATMs in Pattaya, Bang Lamung and the surrounding area. It is thought that the losses totaled 5 million baht.

 

Suthat - the lady boy, said that he was hired by Mohammad to drive him around for 1,000 baht a trip plus petrol money of 200-300 baht a time. Mohammad told Na Jomtien cops that he had got the cards from a Cambodian contact.

 

Police and crime suppression agencies are expanding the enquiry to arrest those behind the operation.

 

Source: Daily News

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-11-06

[roo860]

A bit more news worthy than a couple of nob heads nicking some toiletries.

[OMGImInPattaya]

Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺

[KittenKong]

1 hour ago, roo860 said:

A bit more news worthy than a couple of nob heads nicking some toiletries.

 

Yes, but much less amusing.

[silent]

1 hour ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺

Not so much if it was another Klinger.

[Enoon]

2 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

Lebanese you say...Pattaya is such a melting-pot ☺

 

That's South East Asia for you.

[IAMHERE]

Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think.

[nausea]

Hardly a lady "boy".

[connda]

That sounds like the start of a good joke: "There once was a Thai lady boy, a Lebanese man, and an ATM........." 

[lonewolf99]

Agree 250 visits are a lot ? and also - what about the account holders who have lost money...do the banks go through all the transactions, then contact all of them and put the money back ?

 

 

[Sphere]

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Sirirat Phromphakdee (or Tom) 42,

 

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Lebanese man Mohammad Kanjee, 36

 

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Suthat - the lady boy

 

And then there were three.

 

[swissie]

9 hours ago, silent said:

Not so much if it was another Klinger.

 

I think Klinger would rather be selling illegally imported Lebanese Cheese.

Cheers.

[Xircal]

7 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think.

 

I don't see where you're getting the figure of 250 visits from? The culprit had seven fake ATM cards according to the OP which means he could withdraw 140.000 baht from one machine. So if five million baht was stolen, then only 36 withdrawals were necessary not 250.

[swissie]

Did all the 7 ATM cards have the Pin Code written on the back of the cards ?

Cheers.

[titanio82]

12 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

Five million at twenty thousand a pop must of been about 250 ATM visits; the LB had to of thought something was up when stopping that many times you'd think.

 

Well, there are places where there are 5 ATM's in a row. But again, too greedy and too easy to trace. This kind of activities you should only run on a Sunday which leaves you until Monday before the alarm bell go off.

[gk10002000]

7 hours ago, Xircal said:

 

I don't see where you're getting the figure of 250 visits from? The culprit had seven fake ATM cards according to the OP which means he could withdraw 140.000 baht from one machine. So if five million baht was stolen, then only 36 withdrawals were necessary not 250.

I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time.  What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes?  Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from?  Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions?  hacking Kasikorn bank data?  Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred?  Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions?  The details are more important than the ATM theft.  Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him.  There could have been other cards used.  Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each.  That is good fishing.

Edited November 6, 2016 by gk10002000
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[Elkski]

Sherlock had nothing on all you guys.  

[jerojero]

I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time.  What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes?  Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from?  Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions?  hacking Kasikorn bank data?  Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred?  Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions?  The details are more important than the ATM theft.  Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him.  There could have been other cards used.  Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each.  That is good fishing.

Use your debit card at any place of business, overhead security camera at check counter, and bingo they have your pin. Card info retained by the card reader. Then off to the ATM! Rather easy. But use chip debit card from Bangkok Bank and make it it far more difficult to replicate cards.

[gk10002000]

1 hour ago, jerojero said:

Use your debit card at any place of business, overhead security camera at check counter, and bingo they have your pin. Card info retained by the card reader. Then off to the ATM! Rather easy. But use chip debit card from Bangkok Bank and make it it far more difficult to replicate cards.

I know there are many ways to "see" a person's PIN.  Since these ATM card accounts seem to be reasonably high value it might be useful to know specifically how they thieves got the PIN. Maybe they all use the same bank and the monitors are monitored by bad guys or inside guys.   Let's plug the leaks one by one.

[Xircal]

17 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I think he meant individual withdrawals, and not just stopping at one ATM and using 7 ATM cards each time.  What I want to know is how did he get the ATM Pin codes?  Assuming he got the cards as the story says from a Cambodian guy, where did he get the PIN codes from?  Online hacking of some data center that centrally process ATM card transactions?  hacking Kasikorn bank data?  Just where and how are ATM PIN codes recorded or transferred?  Maybe they got the PIN codes from a skimmer device and were saving up the PIN codes to use them in a short term spree and get the money out before multiple people could report their bad transactions?  The details are more important than the ATM theft.  Oh and we shouldn't assume from the article that he only used those 7 ATM cards that were found on him.  There could have been other cards used.  Otherwise, the thieves had the good fortune to get 7 accounts that had an average of close to 1 Million Baht in each.  That is good fishing.

 

People can be careless when withdrawing cash from an ATM by not covering the keypad with their hand when punching in their pincode. Somebody loitering nearby can memorize the pincode the intended victim has just punched in or thieves can install a skimmer which not only records the pincode but also sends it as a SMS to the thief: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/06/sophisticated-atm-skimmer-transmits-stolen-data-via-text-message/

 

[bheard]

The expert witness (tooth picking) looks like he's on top of it all . . . .

[A1Str8]

They obviously used skimming devices instead of hacking into the bank system. That requires more than a Cambodian contact LMFAO. 

[Petesie80]

Who cares...chuck the thieving gets in the pokey.

[Rimmer]

A racist slur has been removed