NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hey, I'll offer free Winning classes for all Democrats who've forgotten what it's like to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: ... Frankly, I think it would be dangerous now to protest about the election in heavy trump areas, as far as how the trumpists may react. Protests and riots are not the same thing. Most of what is going on is protest. I wouldn't be too worried about protesting, as long as it's conducted in a civilized manner. One doesn't block major thoroughfares, prevent people from conducting affairs in their daily lives or the like. just for attention. There's a limit to civil disobedience, and rioting is right out. By and large, our armed populace is pretty tolerant and typically silent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: What happened is that Trump won in a HUGE way and all your "inevitable" predictions were proven wrong. A slight lead in the popular vote is meaningless as far as electing the president when the electoral votes were so overwhelming. Let's see what former SecState Clinton gets when the final count is completed in about two weeks. Seven million absentee or disputed ballots in California, Washington state, New York state primarily. Her numbers over Trump in the Popular Vote -- that's the Popular Vote -- are only increasing as the space between 'em continues to increase. The fact remains that cannot be denied with any credibility at all is that Donald Trump is the most unpopular President-Elect in the history of the country -- if not the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. If Trump does not change his spots and do it in a hurry, he'll be the most unpopular Potus to take the oath of office on the balcony of the West Front of the Capitol Building January 20th at high noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, beechguy said: We always demanded respect for the Office, just not the guy holding it the past 8 years, His track record speaks for itself. Boots on the ground? Yep, trying to clean up a mistake in Irag, among others. I wonder if we'll hear Trump whining and bitching like a little girl for years, about the mess he inherited. You have respect of the office or you do not have it. Youse guys on the far out extreme lunar right with the Birther in Chief garbage never did. Now you want it for the uniquely American fascist. Forget it. Trump will have to change his spots first. He has little time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Of course we can wait, like you should have waited before annointing Hillary "Madam President". However, as you know, it will not make the slightest difference. Trump is the winner, no matter how you try to spin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 39 minutes ago, Publicus said: The fact remains that cannot be denied with any credibility at all is that Donald Trump is the most unpopular President-Elect in the history of the country -- if not the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. If Hillary was elected she would own that same dubious record, and that's a fact. But now she only has to deal with being the most perceived dishonest, corrupt candidate that ever lost an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, dcutman said: If Hillary was elected she would own that same dubious record, and that's a fact. But now she only has to deal with being the most perceived dishonest, corrupt candidate that ever lost an election. Another one over there who begins his statement with an if. Donald Trump is the most unpopular person elected Potus. No if. No but. No and. Donald Trump is likely the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. Live with it. Recognise it. Accept it and admit it. Stop denying it or trying to deflect it or ignore it. Work instead to make him popular. Be happy in your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Publicus said: Let's see what former SecState Clinton gets when the final count is completed in about two weeks. Seven million absentee or disputed ballots in California, Washington state, New York state primarily. Her numbers over Trump in the Popular Vote -- that's the Popular Vote -- are only increasing as the space between 'em continues to increase. The fact remains that cannot be denied with any credibility at all is that Donald Trump is the most unpopular President-Elect in the history of the country -- if not the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. If Trump does not change his spots and do it in a hurry, he'll be the most unpopular Potus to take the oath of office on the balcony of the West Front of the Capitol Building January 20th at high noon. I agree that if the losing candidate wins the popular vote that does not make for a mandate. I also agree with and am thankful for the electoral college. Were there no electoral college candidates would campaign in only a dozen states or less and would ignore the needs of those people that live in less densely populated states where most of America's resources lie. Edited November 13, 2016 by lannarebirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Publicus said: Another one over there who begins his statement with an if. Donald Trump is the most unpopular person elected Potus. No if. No but. No and. Donald Trump is likely the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. Live with it. Recognise it. Accept it and admit it. Stop denying it or trying to deflect it or ignore it. Work instead to make him popular. Be happy in your work. I think you've got that right and the same could be said had his opponent won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Publicus said: Another one over there who begins his statement with an if. Donald Trump is the most unpopular person elected Potus. No if. No but. No and. Donald Trump is likely the most unpopular elected president or prime minister in the history of democracy. Live with it. Recognise it. Accept it and admit it. Stop denying it or trying to deflect it or ignore it. Work instead to make him popular. Be happy in your work. Should Hillary have been elected, she would own that same dubious record, and that's a fact. But now she only has to deal with being the most perceived dishonest, corrupt candidate that ever lost an election. Rephrased just for you Pub. But the fact still remains the same. I have no doubts about who I voted for, and am satisfied with the outcome. With your overconfidence months prior to and right up to the election, surely you didnt make the same mistake as most of those now demonstrating/rioting in the streets made? Abstaining can be very regrettable, as many people now realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 In every case I can think of, people who write on their foreheads with sharpies don't have to go to work the next day. They probably didn't vote either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, NeverSure said: In every case I can think of, people who write on their foreheads with sharpies don't have to go to work the next day. They probably didn't vote either. The exit polling is clearly showing two groups failed to vote. Millennials and minorities. There is no doubt in my mind, those raising the most hell now did not bother to vote. I have a feeling many here on TVF made the same mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Plenty of illegals voted and made up for it, especially in S. Calif where they are allowed to vote. A lot of dead people voted too. Some more than once. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 29 minutes ago, NeverSure said: Plenty of illegals voted and made up for it, especially in S. Calif where they are allowed to vote. A lot of dead people voted too. Some more than once. Cheers. ...any minor variation in the vote in California will have had zero effect on the Electoral Vote tally so irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, SheungWan said: ...any minor variation in the vote in California will have had zero effect on the Electoral Vote tally so irrelevant. I voted early in Washington state, a Democrat stronghold. I doubt my vote has been counted or ever will be. I think the election in my state was called 5 minutes after the polls closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: I voted early in Washington state, a Democrat stronghold. I doubt my vote has been counted or ever will be. I think the election in my state was called 5 minutes after the polls closed. Sorry, what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Sorry, what is your point? My point is that many votes will not be counted if they are not seen to affect the outcome of the election. http://nbc4i.com/2016/10/31/the-truth-about-write-in-votes-theyre-rarely-counted/ Edited November 13, 2016 by lannarebirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, lannarebirth said: My point is that many votes will not be counted if they are not seen to affect the outcome of the election. Who says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, SheungWan said: Who says? My local county auditor for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: My local county auditor for one. Not enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmichael Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: My point is that many votes will not be counted if they are not seen to affect the outcome of the election. http://nbc4i.com/2016/10/31/the-truth-about-write-in-votes-theyre-rarely-counted/ "Write In" votes are mostly irrelevant. I could "write in" my grandmother who has been dead for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, billmichael said: "Write In" votes are mostly irrelevant. I could "write in" my grandmother who has been dead for decades. So I was told, yet the law allows for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, NeverSure said: I think I would be right in saying that the above is a geographical map and not a map reflecting the respective sizes of each Electoral Constituency and therefore not really the correct map one would use to accurately reflect the electoral outcome. It is really an acreage map, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, SheungWan said: I think I would be right in saying that the above is a geographical map and not a map reflecting the respective sizes of each Electoral Constituency and therefore not really the correct map one would use to accurately reflect the electoral outcome. It is really an acreage map, no? It's a map of the 50 states and the counties within each state. Trump won all of the counties that are red. It's common for a state to have polar opposite politics as rural people tend to think differently than city people. The blue areas which Hillary won are mostly the densely populated areas with big cities. She didn't win all of those areas but that was her strength. Those areas also tend to have what we call ghettos with a lot of people on benefits. Those people tend to think Democrats will give them more free stuff. They also contain a lot of high crime areas. Trump won the real estate war where most of the plain, rural, hard working people live. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 On 11/12/2016 at 3:48 PM, ClutchClark said: JT, Would you please hurry up and spread the word amongst your people so that they can quit rioting and return home until the impeachment. Don't worry, we've all seen how accurate the Left are with their oversized vocal predictions like rubbing their hands together to watch the Great Republican Trainwreck. The opposite of what they predict in fact actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The wheels really came off the Democrats this cycle. Republicans now have The White House, Congress, 33 of 50 state governors, a good majority of state legislators... The Democrats, by hitching their wagon to Crooked, globalist, no-borders Hillary really let the wheels come off so now let's see if they can regroup. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 A post containing content copy and pasted from another site has been removed as it was in violation of fair use policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 On 11/12/2016 at 6:01 PM, Publicus said: Democrats weren't ever going to flip the House from Republican Party gerrymandered majority control in this election. Here is the demographic that made the critical difference in the Republican right gaining absolute institutional power in Washington for what is likely to be the next four years at the least. Meet your silent majority. So we know why it's the noisy urban folk who have taken to the streets. Ma and Pa Kettle have produced the current absolute Republican Party institutional control of the U.S. Government in Washington. Latest Popular Vote Results 2016: Hillary Clinton Has Almost 400,000 More Votes Than Winner Donald Trump By Greg Price @GP_IBTimes On 11/11/16 AT 8:59 AM As Republican and president-elect Donald Trump continues to transition toward his first term in the Oval Office, his now former opponent Hillary Clinton has opened up an almost 400,000-vote lead in the latest reported popular vote totals. Democratic nominee Clinton, whose failure to capture the so-called “blue wall” of Midwest states like Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan and Ohio ultimately handed Trump a 290-232 electoral college victory. But she currently leads the popular vote 60,467,245 to Trump’s 60,071,650 for a difference of 395,595, or 47.7 percent to 47.4 percent, respectively, according to CBS News, CNN, and NBC News. http://www.ibtimes.com/latest-popular-vote-results-2016-hillary-clinton-has-almost-400000-more-votes-winner-2445216 The Right Sector of the society is going to have to get used to the Popular Opposition in the streets and in the courts. There is no alternative. So accept it. Live with it. it does not happen every time, but it is natural and normal about politics and government. Read the First Amendment for solace while it is still there. The very electorate you said was not large enough to make a difference. You and the Dems at large were wrong. You lost because you circulate and maintain discourse only with your "high information educated" liberal progressive elite and trash any point of view that does not conform with your own. It's called walking up your own backside. We've seen it here and looks like we're continuing to see it here. Ma and Pa Kettle triumphed because they were ignored and condescended into meaninglessness. It is interesting that the socialist fair minded justice for minorities representatives of the working class has now become their oppressors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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