Not following govt’s 20-year strategic plan would violate new charter: Meechai

[webfact]

Not following govt’s 20-year strategic plan would violate new charter: Meechai
By THE NATION

 

Meechai

 

BANGKOK: -- WHILE there are no penalties in place, chief charter drafter Meechai Ruchupan warned yesterday that future governments could be violating the new charter if they fail to implement the 20-year national strategy, which is highlighted in the soon-to-be enforced constitution.

 

Lawmakers assigned to enact the new national strategic planning bill, meanwhile, would be expediting the work as per instructions from Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, he added. 

Prayut, who chaired a meeting with the lawmakers on Tuesday, also invited the Constitution Drafting Commission and the National Council of Peace and Council (NCPO) to discuss the strategy, which is part of the national fundamental policies in the new charter. 

 

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[maoro2013]

Why not just change the charter again? It has been done before.

[Orac]

If there are no penalties in place then what is to stop them just ignoring it.

[baboon]

45 minutes ago, Orac said:

If there are no penalties in place then what is to stop them just ignoring it.

No penalties - It is just that the military will turf them out and assume control once again. Reluctantly, of course.

[Aj Mick]

So says the nation's, if not the world's, most prolific writer of abandoned / failed constitutions.

[Orac]

No penalties - It is just that the military will turf them out and assume control once again. Reluctantly, of course.

They need an excuse for that?

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, Orac said:

If there are no penalties in place then what is to stop them just ignoring it.

Prayut's Senate?

[Eligius]

And the Thais just go on taking it all ....

[waldroj]

"...Not following govt’s 20-year strategic plan would violate new charter..."

 

I see the shrivelled-up little weasel is playing with words again.

 

 

Firstly, there is no mention of a "20-year national strategy" in the so-called "people's" Constitution !!!

 

What it actually says about "national strategy" is covered specifically in Section 65 and Section 275:

 

Section 65 says:

 

The State shall develop a national strategy as the goal for sustainable development of the country based on the principle of good governance with a view to serving as a framework for coherent and integrated planning of all kinds that give rise to a mutual force towards such goal.

Development, determination of the goal, period of time required to achieve the goal, and due essences of the national strategy shall be in accordance with the rules and procedure prescribed by law. In this regard, such law shall contain the provisions concerning participation of and consultation with people in all sectors throughout.

 

While Section 275 tells us that:

 

The Council of Ministers shall complete the enactment of the law as specified in Section 65 Paragraph Two within one hundred and twenty days as from the date of promulgation of this Constitution, and the formulation of a national strategy within one year as from the date such law has entered into force.

 

That's it folk's - and, there is no, repeat no requirement in the charter that future "democratically elected" governments follow the junta's strategy.

 

On top of that, by his own admission, the little weasel has stated that, "...there would not be a problem if future governments chose not to implement the strategy as there was no commitment or penalties imposed in the new bill..." !!!

 

 

[elgordo38]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Meechai Ruchupan warned yesterday that future governments could be violating the new charter if they fail to implement the 20-year national strategy, which is highlighted in the soon-to-be enforced constitution.

 

The old and wrinkled are trying to add a new wrinkle to the charter after the fact. This charter will be open to definition by whatever party is in power and well we all know the answer to that one. 

[dhream]

In just two years from now the world will likely be unrecognisable.

TWENTY years is an entire generation away, even the plodding Communists had enough sense to look no further ahead than 5 years, and that was a glorious fail too.

They seem obsessed with putting impossible restrictions on themselves, which come back to bite them time and again. 

Edited December 1, 2016 by dhream

[Redline]

Just cross it out and initial it

[candide]

4 hours ago, baboon said:

No penalties - It is just that the military will turf them out and assume control once again. Reluctantly, of course.

That's probably the true objective. Meechai is just trying to put in place an additional mechanism for coup without coup, which will allow them to oust an elected government on vague motives*, without military coup (and without special authorisation needed).

*Something like: "you have not implemented a policy of innovation-based economy".

[Thailand]

After reading it I had to delete my response.

[aussieinthailand]

6 hours ago, Orac said:

If there are no penalties in place then what is to stop them just ignoring it.

the last charter made it an act of treson to stage anouther coup didn't it? And that didn't stop em...  So now what???

[kannot]

fer  gawds  sake  man...........................see a  dentist

[tukkytuktuk]

The next government has no power to do anything it looks like. The army chooses the PM the political party must follow the charter. Maybe they'll have to wear a picked uniform too. Richard the potato will be happy.

[sjaak327]

7 hours ago, baboon said:

No penalties - It is just that the military will turf them out and assume control once again. Reluctantly, of course.

Nah, the senate will just send the government home. The military does not need to stage another coup.

[kannot]

5 hours ago, Eligius said:

And the Thais just go on taking it all ....

reminds  me of "Fletch"

 

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

Why waste time & money with an election 2017  or whenever with these new rules?

[baboon]

28 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Nah, the senate will just send the government home. The military does not need to stage another coup.

The senate is the military (and proxies), but you are quite right of course. Your post is what I should have said.

[chainarong]

Meechai must have a vision that no one else can see, things change and a week in politics is a long time................................

[Eligius]

In the first chapter of the new Constitution, there is an absolute bombshell of a declaration - if only the Thais would understand it and act upon it. It could change everything overnight. It states:

 

'The sovereign power belongs to the Thai people'.

 

Sovereign means having complete freedom, having full command and control.

 

There the Thais have it - everything they could ever wish for - handed to them on a plate by the junta (out of ignorance, or perverse schadenfreude in nominally giving the Thais their right, but actually withholding it). 

This single statement from the Constitution could shake the present 'regime' into total collapse and disintegration.

But will the Thai people  even realise what they have been given here - still less act upon it? Will a constitutional lawyer actually spill the beans and say what this atom-bomb of a constitutional declaration actually means for the Thais? 

Of course they will not. Grovelling and servitude remain the habituated way - even though the door to legal liberty shines out at them in those few amazing words.

[candide]

37 minutes ago, Eligius said:

In the first chapter of the new Constitution, there is an absolute bombshell of a declaration - if only the Thais would understand it and act upon it. It could change everything overnight. It states:

 

'The sovereign power belongs to the Thai people'.

 

Sovereign means having complete freedom, having full command and control.

 

There the Thais have it - everything they could ever wish for - handed to them on a plate by the junta (out of ignorance, or perverse schadenfreude in nominally giving the Thais their right, but actually withholding it). 

This single statement from the Constitution could shake the present 'regime' into total collapse and disintegration.

But will the Thai people  even realise what they have been given here - still less act upon it? Will a constitutional lawyer actually spill the beans and say what this atom-bomb of a constitutional declaration actually means for the Thais? 

Of course they will not. Grovelling and servitude remain the habituated way - even though the door to legal liberty shines out at them in those few amazing words.

My guess is that it will be interpreted "à la Suthep". Same as when Meechai talks about "participation of the people". He surely doesn't think of voting for a party who will apply it's political program as the right way to participate.

[Orac]

A constitution only has power if it can stop someone tearing it up or a people that will refuse to let that happen - without that it is pretty much meaningless.

[jerojero]

Yes, reel in future elected governments. Constrain them significantly. Then Democracy is dead in Thailand.

[jerojero]

Yes, reel in future elected governments. Constrain them significantly. Then Democracy is dead in Thailand. Sad state of affairs.