pension uplift

[overherebc]

Sitting talking and someone asked if the pension increase rules cover EU or only UK for Brit pensioners?

Some say yes holiday for 6 or 8 weeks attracts the raise even if the holiday is in EU and not UK.

Some beers going on this one.

Of course Brexit might change things but that's not part of the argu-- discussion.

 

[steve187]

if the rise applies in The EU as well as the UK, i think it does, but it will revert back to the old low rate when the holiday is over.

[nong38]

Ex pat Uk pensioners living in the EU get the Annual Pension increase, currently this triple lock thingy, which currently means you get the higher of a choice 3 things which means that until 2020 it will be a minimum of 2.5%, I have a feeling it might be a tad higher next April.

What will happen when the EU leaves the EU is one of the discussion topics that will no doubt be taking place, along with EU citizens living/working in the UK, there are bound to be some horse trading. Things will not change whilst the talks go on about our departure so the next 2 years then, after that who can say, my guess is that things will stay as they are as the UK allows EU folk to stay in the UK but maybe not to accept new immigrants after the date of leaving so preserving the lives of those  already here.

If that turns out to be the case expect another application from expats who live abroad but not in the EU about the up rating of their pensions, this time though not in the EU court but in a British Court in front of British judges, but, before anyne gets excited, the law is the law and that might need to be changed and the best we might expect then is that the judges recommend precisely that.

[theoldgit]

I've certainly claimed, and received the unfrozen rate, when I've visited EU countries as well as the U.K.


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[OJAS]

10 hours ago, theoldgit said:

I've certainly claimed, and received the unfrozen rate, when I've visited EU countries as well as the U.K.


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Interesting! Will definitely bear this in mind for my next month-long annual Eurotrip next June to visit my sister who lives in Paris (and including a week in the UK).

 

How does one go about claiming the unfrozen rate in these circumstances? I would imagine that you would need to write to DWP's IPC with suitable evidence in the form of confirmed flight bookings?

 

And, on a separate point, have you ever experienced any difficulties in checking in for a return flight to Thailand from LHR on the basis of a retirement extension plus re-entry permit? On previous trips I have flown back from CDG with no problem, but next time I'm planning to fly to CDG (as usual) but return from LHR.

[sappersrest]

"And, on a separate point, have you ever experienced any difficulties in checking in for a return flight to Thailand from LHR on the basis of a retirement extension plus re-entry permit? On previous trips I have flown back from CDG with no problem, but next time I'm planning to fly to CDG (as usual) but return from LHR."

 

No problem at all with a oneway ticket so long as you have the correct visa, such as yours.

 

[theoldgit]

 How does one go about claiming the unfrozen rate in these circumstances? I would imagine that you would need to write to DWP's IPC with suitable evidence in the form of confirmed flight bookings?
 
And, on a separate point, have you ever experienced any difficulties in checking in for a return flight to Thailand from LHR on the basis of a retirement extension plus re-entry permit? On previous trips I have flown back from CDG with no problem, but next time I'm planning to fly to CDG (as usual) but return from LHR.

Sometimes we fly directly from Bangkok to Amsterdam and spend a few days there before travelling to the UK. The return leg is also from Amsterdam, maybe taking in a few days in Paris en route, flights are often cheaper via Amsterdam and of course you can save a fair bit in APD, you've got to factor in the extra flights, but we would probably do those trips anyway. Sorry that wasn't your question, one of the first things I do when I'm in the UK is call the DWP's International Pension Centre and advise them that I'm visiting countries where the higher rate is paid. I tell them when I'm in the EU, when I arrived in the UK and when I returned to Thailand. I have an itinerary of the trip to hand, but apart from the relevant dates and my NI number, all they've ever requested is the postcode of one place we've stayed at in the UK and a contact number, some operatives accept a mobile number, some require a landline number. I've never ever written to them and the payment is usually credited the next month or the month after, they also send a breakdown by mail, that takes some time to arrive.

I've never encountered a problem with my permission to stay in Thailand at LHR, if they are clearly looking for something I quietly intervene and offer show them what they're looking for.

[theoldgit]

 How does one go about claiming the unfrozen rate in these circumstances? I would imagine that you would need to write to DWP's IPC with suitable evidence in the form of confirmed flight bookings?
 
And, on a separate point, have you ever experienced any difficulties in checking in for a return flight to Thailand from LHR on the basis of a retirement extension plus re-entry permit? On previous trips I have flown back from CDG with no problem, but next time I'm planning to fly to CDG (as usual) but return from LHR.

Sometimes we fly directly from Bangkok to Amsterdam and spend a few days there before travelling to the UK. The return leg is also from Amsterdam, maybe taking in a few days in Paris en route, flights are often cheaper via Amsterdam and of course you can save a fair bit in APD, you've got to factor in the extra flights, but we would probably do those trips anyway. Sorry that wasn't your question, one of the first things I do when I'm in the UK is call the DWP's International Pension Centre and advise them that I'm visiting countries where the higher rate is paid. I tell them when I'm in the EU, when I arrived in the UK and when I returned to Thailand. I have an itinerary of the trip to hand, but apart from the relevant dates and my NI number, all they've ever requested is the postcode of one place we've stayed at in the UK and a contact number, some operatives accept a mobile number, some require a landline number. I've never ever written to them and the payment is usually credited the next month or the month after, they also send a breakdown by mail, that takes some time to arrive.

I've never encountered a problem with my permission to stay in Thailand at LHR, if they are clearly looking for something I quietly intervene and offer show them what they're looking for.

[overherebc]

On 10/12/2016 at 11:46 AM, theoldgit said:

Sometimes we fly directly from Bangkok to Amsterdam and spend a few days there before travelling to the UK. The return leg is also from Amsterdam, maybe taking in a few days in Paris en route, flights are often cheaper via Amsterdam and of course you can save a fair bit in APD, you've got to factor in the extra flights, but we would probably do those trips anyway. Sorry that wasn't your question, one of the first things I do when I'm in the UK is call the DWP's International Pension Centre and advise them that I'm visiting countries where the higher rate is paid. I tell them when I'm in the EU, when I arrived in the UK and when I returned to Thailand. I have an itinerary of the trip to hand, but apart from the relevant dates and my NI number, all they've ever requested is the postcode of one place we've stayed at in the UK and a contact number, some operatives accept a mobile number, some require a landline number. I've never ever written to them and the payment is usually credited the next month or the month after, they also send a breakdown by mail, that takes some time to arrive.

I've never encountered a problem with my permission to stay in Thailand at LHR, if they are clearly looking for something I quietly intervene and offer show them what they're looking for.

 

Is there a minimum time requirement?

Two/three weeks etc?