webfact Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Military To Hand Over More Alleged Hackers By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter - Natdanai Kongdi, 19, accused of hacking a police database, was presented to reporters Monday at a police news conference. BANGKOK — Police said Wednesday more alleged hackers will be handed over by military while a 19-year-old, arrested earlier for allegedly attacking police site, will spend the New Year’s holidays in prison. A court Wednesday ruled Natdanai Kongdi, who is accused of hacking into a central police investigation database, a flight risk and denied him bail. He will remain in custody another 12 days until Jan. 8. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/12/29/military-hand-alleged-hackers/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-12-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 smart kid. so of course he must be destroyed. how about thai visa starting a fund to help this kid out? no takers? i thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 "It is common for the regime to use its special, self-granted authority to hold people for questioning in secret detention without charge if the suspected offenses are deemed by the regime to be threats to national security." It is also very sad. "Kritsana on Wednesday insisted Natdanai was not a scapegoat, saying he had confessed to hacking the police site and sharing screenshots of his exploits to the hacktivist page." Were those "screenshots" in his computer or on-line ? Being an accused 19 year old in jaunt controlled Thailand would be a scary thing. Wonder if he had a lawyer present during questioning in that secret place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Computer hackers should be hung, drawn, and quartered until the authorities find a more severe punishment :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: Computer hackers should be hung, drawn, and quartered until the authorities find a more severe punishment :) Substitute "Computer hackers" with "Junta fanboys" it reads much better. Edited December 29, 2016 by jesimps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtom Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: smart kid. so of course he must be destroyed. how about thai visa starting a fund to help this kid out? no takers? i thought not. It's not our fight and would be counterproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Hacking others computers even the Governments is or should be a crime. Crimes have consequences and those who do it should only do so if they are prepared to pay the price. Protest is fine and talk should be free. I like a free internet but this in my opinion is not a way to get that. If on consideration they are willing to pay the price however they have my respect even if they are illadvised. Edited December 29, 2016 by harrry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, harrry said: Hacking others computers even the Governments is or should be a crime. Crimes have consequences and those who do it should only do so if they are prepared to pay the price. Protest is fine and talk should be free. I like a free internet but this in my opinion is not a way to get that. If on consideration they are willing to pay the price however they have my respect even if they are illadvised. How do you suggest the disgruntled make their feelings known in any meaningful way? Gather? Not in groups more than five. Set up a Facebook page and click 'like'? No, off to the slammer for that too. A televised debate? When Hell freezes over, perhaps. So what options are out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrry Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, baboon said: How do you suggest the disgruntled make their feelings known in any meaningful way? Gather? Not in groups more than five. Set up a Facebook page and click 'like'? No, off to the slammer for that too. A televised debate? When Hell freezes over, perhaps. So what options are out there? My post relating to the hacking of the computers. Their expression of it is another matter which is covered by the second line of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 4 hours ago, longtom said: It's not our fight and would be counterproductive. Disagree. The junta does not fear its own people. It fears the opinions of westerner powers and the Japanese. At the moment, they enjoy support from China. Mind you if the government produces irrefutable and gives him due process, then so be it, but they have already locked him up in a secret military facility and it is doubtful he has seen an attorney. Any "confession" could be considered done out of duress. The Thailand of today is all about making choices out of either duress or ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 "It is common for the regime to use its special, self-granted authority to hold people for questioning in secret detention without charge if the suspected offenses are deemed by the regime to be threats to national security." It is also very sad. "Kritsana on Wednesday insisted Natdanai was not a scapegoat, saying he had confessed to hacking the police site and sharing screenshots of his exploits to the hacktivist page." Were those "screenshots" in his computer or on-line ? Being an accused 19 year old in jaunt controlled Thailand would be a scary thing. Wonder if he had a lawyer present during questioning in that secret place. Just a randomly picked scapegoat for naming and shaming......... For FACE and DISGRACE.......Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Not a true need if got caught....you mean the police hacker are better than the teen hackers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Who is he to be handed over to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 7 hours ago, baboon said: How do you suggest the disgruntled make their feelings known in any meaningful way? Gather? Not in groups more than five. Set up a Facebook page and click 'like'? No, off to the slammer for that too. A televised debate? When Hell freezes over, perhaps. So what options are out there? They could lobby their member of parliam... Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Persecuting the noobs they manage to get their hands on like this is only going to further enrage those that pose the real threat, and spur them to more damaging exploits. Hackers aren't like the common criminal motivated simply by personal greed, and run off by fear of active enforcement. "Hacktivism" is politically and ego driven, and as agile as the day is long. Taking down comrades, even if just from among the cubs, will only serve to stir them up. 'Wouldn't be surprised to see an "incident" in the near term specifically in response to these arrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 11 hours ago, baboon said: How do you suggest the disgruntled make their feelings known in any meaningful way? Gather? Not in groups more than five. Set up a Facebook page and click 'like'? No, off to the slammer for that too. A televised debate? When Hell freezes over, perhaps. So what options are out there? keep your mouth shut, don't try to hack a Police Database, and live a long life without seeing the inside of a prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 11 hours ago, baboon said: How do you suggest the disgruntled make their feelings known in any meaningful way? Gather? Not in groups more than five. Set up a Facebook page and click 'like'? No, off to the slammer for that too. A televised debate? When Hell freezes over, perhaps. So what options are out there? What do they do with government web-site hackers in your country? Or, if you prefer, in DPRK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 A post containing off topic deflection comments has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Convicted murderers get bail, but this teenager doesn't? Unbelievable! And thought the PM said no more public shaming of those accused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 18 hours ago, NCC1701A said: smart kid. so of course he must be destroyed. how about thai visa starting a fund to help this kid out? no takers? i thought not. Who to support and how much support can we provide to the the scapegoats, downtrodden and marginalised in our world? I am bombarded by requests for financial assistance to fight the good fight against the worlds ills, I'm sorry but I just cannot afford it. Those who could, should and have the ability to bring in the social changes so long overdue, do nothing. The governments, financial institutions and religious orders. They take and give back so little. More specifically to Thailand, it has been reported the donations to the victims of the Tsunami and the fight for justice for the two Burmese men sentenced over the Koh Tao killings, portions of these funds were mismanaged if not simply stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 hours ago, TunnelRat69 said: keep your mouth shut, don't try to hack a Police Database, and live a long life without seeing the inside of a prison. So in other words do absolutely nothing and allow any old bullyboy to trample on your rights and freedoms without even voicing objections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 hours ago, halloween said: What do they do with government web-site hackers in your country? Or, if you prefer, in DPRK? What do they do with peaceful protesters in your country? Or, if you prefer, in Saudi Arabia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Sentence for this kid is a job in the civil service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free123 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 23 hours ago, harrry said: Hacking others computers even the Governments is or should be a crime. Crimes have consequences and those who do it should only do so if they are prepared to pay the price. Protest is fine and talk should be free. I like a free internet but this in my opinion is not a way to get that. If on consideration they are willing to pay the price however they have my respect even if they are illadvised. he should have delete everything he got hold of plus change all theyr passwords ....good kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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