NoshowJones Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, bermannor said: Normally, when you start early with health insurance, the company put aside some money so at old age the fee increase is minimal. May be not in Thailand. But saying, only the "very" rich can afford health insurance, is nonsense. That might be valid only when you are 70 years or older if they take you at all. Your last sentence, that is exactly what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: If she was english she may be entitled to a pension and if she was truly in need I reckon some brits might help her out. But if she is not fretting why should the OP? If she was English, her pension would be the same now as thirty odd years ago. Annual state pension increases, get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermannor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Possum, what you meant is not what you wrote. You wrote about fee increases. And trying to get medical insurance above 70 is insane, specially with a medical history. Then it is cheaper to pay yourself but still, you have to be rich, specially staying in a foreign country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, possum1931 said: If she was English, her pension would be the same now as thirty odd years ago. Annual state pension increases, get it? I never quoted you I was commenting on the matter the OP raised about an elderly person in dire straits. Your pension topic is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, sandgroper2 said: She has no money, read again. I did read it, did you? Her friends help her out with money Have you got a helpful suggestion for the OP or do you just want to attack those that have? Typical ThaiVisa I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, possum1931 said: Has anybody that age got health insurance? Only the very rich I would think, I do not know the full facts, but this being Thailand, I would think any health insurance company would keep increasing her annual payments until she could not afford it any more. If she is from the UK, which from the OP it doesn't look like, what was the state pension for a woman thirty odd years ago? Right. A friend of mine just turned 72 and was kicked out of BUPA - no reasons given and he is still in good health. They sent him a letter offering to renew his wife's policy but declining to renew his. They don't keep their promise to insure you until you die so long as you keep the policy going, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbrenn Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I think that the OP should just leave this old lady alone. As NancyL says, the authorities are probably aware of her. Despite what many in this forum say, Thais do have a charitable and kind side, so it's unlikely that they have any intention of throwing such a very old lady in the slammer for overstaying her visa. Deporting an old lady of that age who is settled here would probably kill her. I'm now bracing myself for the usual onslaught of self-styled forum cops, who will be along soon to accuse me of aiding and abetting a hardened visa criminal. ... Edited January 5, 2017 by dbrenn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, dbrenn said: I think that the OP should just leave this old lady alone. As NancyL says, the authorities are probably aware of her. Despite what many in this forum say, Thais do have a charitable and kind side, so it's unlikely that they have any intention of throwing such a very old lady in the slammer for overstaying her visa. Deporting an old lady of that age would probably kill her. I'm now bracing myself for the usual onslaught of self-styled forum cops, who will be along soon to accuse me of aiding and abetting a hardened visa criminal. ... If he leaves her alone who is going to help her if she were to get arrested? She has a good friend in the OP, it seems by your attitude you don't have any friends, if you do let's hope they leave you alone when you need some help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, darrendsd said: I did read it, did you? Her friends help her out with money Have you got a helpful suggestion for the OP or do you just want to attack those that have? Typical ThaiVisa I suppose Advice is cheap. How much money are you donating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, dbrenn said: Right. A friend of mine just turned 72 and was kicked out of BUPA - no reasons given and he is still in good health. They sent him a letter offering to renew his wife's policy but declining to renew his. They don't keep their promise to insure you until you die so long as you keep the policy going, it seems. That is one of the reasons I am not renewing my policy this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 49 minutes ago, sandgroper2 said: Advice is cheap. How much money are you donating ? Why? Are you? Don't forget to scan a copy of the proof on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, darrendsd said: Why? Are you? Don't forget to scan a copy of the proof on here Where's the proof that this pudding is stuck as per OP please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Where's the proof that this pudding is stuck as per OP please? Sorry but I thought this was a English speaking forum? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, darrendsd said: Sorry but I thought this was a English speaking forum? Never heard a word spoken on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: Never heard a word spoken on this forum. Never written one either by the looks of things 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HooHaa Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 leave her be, she will not even register on the radar. help her if you can, but sending her out of the country if she has been here 40 years would be cruel. thais respect the elderly enough to leave her be. Nancyl has the right idea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Tell her to fake alzheimers if immigration comes calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Has she got health insurance ?That's a hilarious post. She probably outlived many farang on 150,000 a year health insurance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 As long as she keeps a low profile, it's not likely she will have any problems. If she were to have a problem, face it then. Let sleeping dogs lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemonjelly Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 Can't we have normal dialogues on this forum without them turning into exchanges of insults, flaming etc? C'mon guys, get a grip, please!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, darrendsd said: Worthless but worth starting a pointless argument with? I know people like you also .... It was not an arguement. it was a point that this poster has as far as I see. Not proved a word of his OP. So why the discussion of helping out a possible figment of OP's imagination? Cahoots maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: It was not an arguement. it was a point that this poster has as far as I see. Not proved a word of his OP. So why the discussion of helping out a possible figment of OP's imagination? Cahoots maybe. Haha even for Thai Visa that is something else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 you guys should arrange your room before it gets deleted and you lose touch, perhaps for ever. T.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassdude007 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Not joking here just some food for thought.....As a last resort, Maybe try one of the many visa service offices that have been sprouting up recently .. My mate got a 1 year retirement visa/extention with no money in the bank, Using this service. I know not same situation but for a price many things can be sorted with Thai immigration using The Back Door Route........Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Please get back on topic and stop with the bickering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grubster Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would think that if you truly like her than help her the best you can and I think the Thai authorities would not come down hard on her at all if they catch up to her. I think she will get care at government hospitals without having to worry. Please post again if she gets in trouble as I would like to help. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Grubster said: I would think that if you truly like her than help her the best you can and I think the Thai authorities would not come down hard on her at all if they catch up to her. I think she will get care at government hospitals without having to worry. Please post again if she gets in trouble as I would like to help. How would you verify the claims of the OP though without inadvertently getting Granny in trouble? Has this type of help been done before on thaivisa? Sorry but I seen a few of these and they are normally posted by members with very little time served on the forum. So it's hard to see these claims as genuine. Even if posters are time served I personally would want assurances that any support would be to a worthwhile cause. So if anyone can explain how you get it to the next step I'd be interested to hear. I mean for all I know it could be just some ploy from someone trying to scrape some cash together for them self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Grubster said: I would think that if you truly like her than help her the best you can and I think the Thai authorities would not come down hard on her at all if they catch up to her. I think she will get care at government hospitals without having to worry. Please post again if she gets in trouble as I would like to help. I believe immigration will most likely turn a blind eye as long as she creates no trouble. However, it is unlikely that she would receive much treatment at Thai government hospitals. They are generally strapped for cash, and ration care even to Thai nationals, especially elderly ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grubster Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: How would you verify the claims of the OP though without inadvertently getting Granny in trouble? Has this type of help been done before on thaivisa? Sorry but I seen a few of these and they are normally posted by members with very little time served on the forum. So it's hard to see these claims as genuine. Even if posters are time served I personally would want assurances that any support would be to a worthwhile cause. So if anyone can explain how you get it to the next step I'd be interested to hear. I mean for all I know it could be just some ploy from someone trying to scrape some cash together for them self. Yes I agree and I assure you I don't give money to anybody unless I see the situation first hand, which I would be willing to go see. I can also tell you that I never give money to the big international charities since I found out how much actually gets to the cause, usually less than 20%. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, BritTim said: I believe immigration will most likely turn a blind eye as long as she creates no trouble. However, it is unlikely that she would receive much treatment at Thai government hospitals. They are generally strapped for cash, and ration care even to Thai nationals, especially elderly ones. Up here in the jungle they will treat you for pennies at the government hospitals. I know many who use them but I prefer to go private as I value my time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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