webfact Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Ethics lawyers to sue Trump over foreign payments By Dan Levine REUTERS U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during the Inaugural Law Enforcement Officers and First Responders Reception in the Blue Room of the White House in Washington, U.S., January 22, 2017. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (Reuters) - A group including former White House ethics attorneys will file a lawsuit on Monday accusing President Donald Trump of allowing his businesses to accept payments from foreign governments, in violation of the U.S. Constitution. The lawsuit, brought by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, will allege that the Constitution's emoluments clause forbids payments to Trump's businesses. It will seek a court order forbidding Trump from accepting such payments, said Deepak Gupta, one of the lawyers working on the case. Trump does business with countries like China, India, Indonesia and the Philippines, the group noted in a statement. "When Trump the president sits down to negotiate trade deals with these countries, the American people will have no way of knowing whether he will also be thinking about the profits of Trump the businessman," it said. A Trump representative referred questions to a law firm representing the president on ethics matters. "We do not comment on our clients or the work we do for them," said the representative of the firm, Morgan Lewis & Bockius. The case is part of a wave of litigation expected to be filed against Trump by liberal advocacy groups. It will be filed in a Manhattan federal court, Gupta said, and attorneys for the plaintiffs will include Richard Painter, a former ethics lawyer in Republican President George W. Bush's White House. The impending lawsuit was earlier reported by the New York Times. Trump's son Eric Trump, an executive vice president of the Trump Organization, told the Times on Sunday that the company had taken more steps than required by law to avoid any possible legal exposure, such as agreeing to donate any profits collected at Trump-owned hotels that come from foreign government guests to the U.S. Treasury. "This is purely harassment for political gain," Trump told the newspaper. (Reporting by Dan Levine in San Francisco; Editing by Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-01-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Put HRC in Jail before you start on Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Of course its harassment. His term of office will be plagued by liberal PC mischief makers playing all the tricks, legal, media, "celebrities" they possibly can to try and derail, hinder and block the new POTUS. They hope the public won't see or understand what they're up to and so vote for the politicians they support next time around. But of course, nothing wrong in Hilary's family trust receiving massive payments from the Saudis and Germany. All above board. Just like Bill's lying to the American people and government and impeachment. He showed the way. He got away with lying, being recorded openly lying, and and glossed all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Of course its harassment. His term of office will be plagued by liberal PC mischief makers playing all the tricks, legal, media, "celebrities" they possibly can to try and derail, hinder and block the new POTUS. They hope the public won't see or understand what they're up to and so vote for the politicians they support next time around. But of course, nothing wrong in Hilary's family trust receiving massive payments from the Saudis and Germany. All above board. Just like Bill's lying to the American people and government and impeachment. He showed the way. He got away with lying, being recorded openly lying, and and glossed all over it. If he has violated the constitution it isn't mischief. He is also in violation of his lease on his DC hotel which states that the lease holder cannot hold public office as the owner of the property is the Federal Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Of course its harassment. His term of office will be plagued by liberal PC mischief makers playing all the tricks, legal, media, "celebrities" they possibly can to try and derail, hinder and block the new POTUS. They hope the public won't see or understand what they're up to and so vote for the politicians they support next time around. But of course, nothing wrong in Hilary's family trust receiving massive payments from the Saudis and Germany. All above board. Just like Bill's lying to the American people and government and impeachment. He showed the way. He got away with lying, being recorded openly lying, and and glossed all over it. So, the Clinton's didn't' accept money for a personal family trust, they accepted money for their charitable organizations. There is a slight difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Geez I thought thais were crazy numnuts when their side didn't win. The Americans definately make thai coups and the like look civilised. Grow up America your side lost, live with it and stop crying like spoilt privileged over self worthing brats. If you don't like the results of your democracy then protest to change it if you actually went to the polling booth in the 1st place. I would like to know just how many protesters actually voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Did you know in Australia people are actually betting that there will be an attempt on his life in the next 12 months. All this crap news coming over from the likes of CNN, America's most respected news agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 43 minutes ago, Thechook said: Geez I thought thais were crresultmnuts when their side didn't win. The Americans definately make thai coups and the like look civilised. Grow up America your side lost, live with it and stop crying like spoilt privileged over self worthing brats. If you don't like the results of your democracy then protest to change it if you actually went to the polling booth in the 1st place. I would like to know just how many protesters actually voted. Not enough chook. They were sitting at home In their trailers, stoned. Now they bitch and whine at the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Dear Trump lovers: stop dodging issues Trump has by trying to redirect to some spiel about Hillary. That doesn't matter. She isn't the president, trump is! Pre inauguration he talked with prez of Argentina about a project he has there during a congratulatory call. His daughter, who is to help run his assets, sat in on meeting with Japanese prime minister. If you can't connect the implications of these and other actions, you can bet foreign leaders can. The conflicts of interest, the emollients clause is there to protect the American people in order for them to know their president is working for them, not self interest. Why do you have a problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I support every legal effort to resist the demagogic authoritarian that has just been installed in the white house, with the obvious help of Russian dictator Putin. Impeachment efforts -- you bethcha! Bring it on and kick him OUT! Yes, I get it, from my personal interest POV, an impeached trump would mean a President Pence and that would probably be even worse for me personally. But getting the Putin puppet trump out of the presidency is more important than anyone's personal interest. Edited January 23, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Thechook said: Did you know in Australia people are actually betting that there will be an attempt on his life in the next 12 months. All this crap news coming over from the likes of CNN, America's most respected news agency. It's nice that you have such strong opinions about American politics, but with due respect, it's not your country that has been taken over by insane man that is controlled by a Russian dictator. True American patriots are resisting this madness with very good reasons. Edited January 23, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: It's nice that you have such strong opinions about American politics, but with due respect, it's not your country that has been taken over by insane man that is controlled by a Russian dictator. True American patriots are resisting this madness with very good reasons. So, you have swiftly moved on from Trump supposedly being "helped" into office by Putin to Trump being "controlled" by him ? You will soon find out how much control Putin has the first time he upsets Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Derail, hinder, block....... Exactly what Republicans did to Obama for years. And, all politicians lie but Trump has taken it to new heights it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: It's nice that you have such strong opinions about American politics, but with due respect, it's not your country that has been taken over by insane man that is controlled by a Russian dictator. True American patriots are resisting this madness with very good reasons. Actually Australia is being ruled by a numnut of the highest order. Malcolm Turnbull makes my skin crawl. He is a slimy piece of excrement who will sell Australia out for a sandwich. Give me a 100 trumps in his place. Australia despise the scum but he was elected so we just have to wait for the next election, protesting won't see him thrown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seoulbrooks Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 You guys are out of control. Learn to read and understand what the Clintons were doing with their so called World Charity.......What paid for the child's wedding and first $6M home. That was charity. She is not the President, she was just being paid to be the Secretary of State while she was dropping classified data all over the world. You are confused if you believe Trump is the one that will get controlled by Russia, they would have owned Hillary if she had won the election. They have enough on her to keep her shut-up forever. You little progressive liberals need to get a real life and stop crying about a real crook losing the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansell Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: Not enough chook. They were sitting at home In their trailers, stoned. Now they bitch and whine at the result. You got that wrong, the trailer trash voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 oh.. something is going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, seoulbrooks said: You guys are out of control. Learn to read and understand what the Clintons were doing with their so called World Charity.......What paid for the child's wedding and first $6M home. That was charity. She is not the President, she was just being paid to be the Secretary of State while she was dropping classified data all over the world. You are confused if you believe Trump is the one that will get controlled by Russia, they would have owned Hillary if she had won the election. They have enough on her to keep her shut-up forever. You little progressive liberals need to get a real life and stop crying about a real crook losing the election. Clearly a consumer of fake news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/04/did-the-clinton-foundation-pay-for-chelseas-wedding/?utm_term=.82e653fc1589 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Thechook said: Did you know in Australia people are actually betting that there will be an attempt on his life in the next 12 months. All this crap news coming over from the likes of CNN, America's most respected news agency. If there is an attempt will security shout " Donald, duck!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 And not a peep for how many years about the foreign payments to the soon to be defunct Clinton Foundation in what was a blatant pay-for-access to the Secretary of State and the potential POTUS (which didn't work out for Mrs Clinton is why the foreign checkbooks closed). But three days into the presidency and the sharks are circling the new POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 And not a peep for how many years about the foreign payments to the soon to be defunct Clinton Foundation in what was a blatant pay-for-access to the Secretary of State and the potential POTUS (which didn't work out for Mrs Clinton is why the foreign checkbooks closed). But three days into the presidency and the sharks are circling the new POTUS.Off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 This is totally weird. A lawsuit is to be started against Trump. (He is really familiar with lawsuits) Not one of the pro-Trump respondents goes remotely near the issue. They all hark back to an election opponent who is history who has nothing to do with the story. This seems to be the response to any criticism of Trump, a tu quoque response aimed at Hillary Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: It's nice that you have such strong opinions about American politics, but with due respect, it's not your country that has been taken over by insane man that is controlled by a Russian dictator. True American patriots are resisting this madness with very good reasons. Australians have already had our maddy,The Mad Monk Abbott.He was that bad his own party sank the knife in to get rid of him in his 1st term.A more smooth but just as bad operator followed.May the same thing happen for you Jing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Grouse said: If there is an attempt will security shout " Donald, duck!" Lets hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: it's not your country that has been taken over by insane man that is controlled by a Russian dictator Neither has yours , so, relax USA hasnt been "Taken over" , it just has a different leader . Trump isnt "insane" , he would not have been allowed to run for POTUS if he was He isnt "controlled" by Putin either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 hours ago, little mary sunshine said: Put HRC in Jail before you start on Trump! Put Dubya (and his cronies Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove cum suis) before a war crimes tribunal first, and then we'll talk ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagnabbit Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Man owns hotel. Man has foreign customers. Who wouldda thunk it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diplomatico Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, Briggsy said: This is totally weird. A lawsuit is to be started against Trump. (He is really familiar with lawsuits) Not one of the pro-Trump respondents goes remotely near the issue. They all hark back to an election opponent who is history who has nothing to do with the story. This seems to be the response to any criticism of Trump, a tu quoque response aimed at Hillary Clinton. From the left leaning Time magazine: "Whether or not one concludes that Trump’s business dealings violate the letter or the spirit of the Emoluments Clause, the underlying controversy is almost certainly non-justiciable. It is difficult to conceive of a scenario in which someone would have standing to challenge Trump’s arrangements, and even harder to think what sort of remedy could be ordered by a court. In other words, if there are concerns about how President Trump handles his various investments, the only remedies will be political." To summarize, the liberals are grasping at straws....yet again. Seriously, according to the opposition, no one with any business holdings could ever be elected President because their business might accept payment from a foreign entity. So, the Prime Minister of England can't eat at a McDonald's (see what I did there - McDonald's) if it's owned by a President because that's an emolument? Absurd. But keep on dreaming.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/21/the-emoluments-clause-is-donald-trump-violating-its-letter-or-spirit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Diplomatico said: From the left leaning Time magazine: "Whether or not one concludes that Trump’s business dealings violate the letter or the spirit of the Emoluments Clause, the underlying controversy is almost certainly non-justiciable. It is difficult to conceive of a scenario in which someone would have standing to challenge Trump’s arrangements, and even harder to think what sort of remedy could be ordered by a court. In other words, if there are concerns about how President Trump handles his various investments, the only remedies will be political." To summarize, the liberals are grasping at straws....yet again. Seriously, according to the opposition, no one with any business holdings could ever be elected President because their business might accept payment from a foreign entity. So, the Prime Minister of England can't eat at a McDonald's (see what I did there - McDonald's) if it's owned by a President because that's an emolument? Absurd. But keep on dreaming.... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/11/21/the-emoluments-clause-is-donald-trump-violating-its-letter-or-spirit/ Previously, Presidents with business holdings did the honorable thing and either divested themselves of it or put it in a blind trust. Oil and water, honor and Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Stop whining Trump supporters. Your guy has been wallowing in s*** for years. Like all psychos he believes himself supreme, invulnerable, untouchable. They never quit when they are ahead. Unless he plans to tear the legal system apart and ban free speech he is going to spend however long being slashed by suit after suit and sordid revelation after revelation. Get used to it boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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