SWEDEN AT BREAKING POINT: Police make urgent plea for help as violent crime spirals

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45 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Don't know about Sweden, but policies in the UK make it very easy to set up segregated Islamic schools with specialist curriculums. There have also been some 'trojan horse' actions by leading muslim community figures in areas with high muslim concentration, where they have taken over the board of governors, and tried to drive the (white) head teacher out, in order to introduce a Muslim-based curriculum. There is one allegedly going on at a school in Oldham, northern England at the moment.

I am sure that Sweden is no different from the UK when it comes to this.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/19/second-islamist-trojan-horse-scandal-feared-oldham-headteacher/

 

Sweden is probably worse as it is a smaller country with a higher percentage of immigrants centred in a few places.

[Shawn0000]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't get the relevance. Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same deity. The passage refers to idolatory, which is not an issue at present.

 

We were talking about Muslims killing infidels, these are the passage that permit that, infidels being those who worship uncommon deities, but yes, Christians not being infidels to Muslims does also remove the original worry, at least for Christians.

[tuktuktuk]

15 hours ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Did that, I found these two:

 

Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

You're a speed reader.

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[heroKK]

[rwdrwdrwd]

Yeah definitely can't respect people who don't put their family and life above the most important factor in life - maintaining a claim to a particular piece of soil.

 

If they don't happen to agree with any of the factions that are strongest in the closest vicinity to that piece of soil, then they should just go ahead and start their own and try to blow all the others up.

 

Because everybody knows that it is not love, life and family that matter, it is ensuring that one has claim to a particular piece of land for their entire life - everything else be damned.

 

Hang on, no. That's just really, really daft isn't it. What an imbecilic meme.

 

 

Edited February 22, 2017 by rwdrwdrwd

[anon4546543]

Sweden and most of Europe are in for huge problems. But why talk about it, they invited millions in with no security checks and it is far too late to reverse stupid decisions.

[Shawn0000]

20 hours ago, heroKK said:

 

That has got to be the lowest I have ever seen someone stoop.

Of all refugees leaving Syria, 38% are under 11 years of age, 22% are over 60 and 23% are women, do you really expect women, children and the elderly to fight for their country?

[heroKK]

10 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

That has got to be the lowest I have ever seen someone stoop.

Of all refugees leaving Syria, 38% are under 11 years of age, 22% are over 60 and 23% are women, do you really expect women, children and the elderly to fight for their country?

This photo of some of them at the border, I don't see any children or women among them - "Syrian refugees arriving in Europe should form an army which can be sent back to 'liberate' their home country, instead of 'drinking coffee in the cafes of Berlin' while western soldiers face ISIS"" Witold Waszczykowski - Polish foreign minister.

 

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Edited February 23, 2017 by heroKK

[Shawn0000]

3 minutes ago, heroKK said:

This photo of some of them at the border, I don't see any children or women among them - "Syrian refugees arriving in Europe should form an army which can be sent back to 'liberate' their home country, instead of 'drinking coffee in the cafes of Berlin' while western soldiers face ISIS"" Witold Waszczykowski - Polish foreign minister.

 

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You don't?  Of the 5 people closest to the camera on the right, three of them are clearly children.  I can see 4 babies on peoples shoulders.  I do also see a lot of men, but unlike you, I do not judge refugee demographics on one photo, I go by the UNHCR stats.

 

[LammyTS1]

 
That has got to be the lowest I have ever seen someone stoop.
Of all refugees leaving Syria, 38% are under 11 years of age, 22% are over 60 and 23% are women, do you really expect women, children and the elderly to fight for their country?

Your statistics are wrong. You state all refugees? Where are you getting these figures?

62% of officially registered refugees are of ages between 12-59.

This does not include refugees awaiting clearance and ones having problems with verification. This figure would then increase above 62%.

Now if you were to include economic migrants in these figures....


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[Shawn0000]

7 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

Your statistics are wrong. You state all refugees? Where are you getting these figures?

62% of officially registered refugees are of ages between 12-59.

This does not include refugees awaiting clearance and ones having problems with verification. This figure would then increase above 62%.

Now if you were to include economic migrants in these figures....


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UNHCR stats you claim are wrong, where do you get yours?  I said all refugees from Syria, by the way.

[LammyTS1]

 
UNHCR stats you claim are wrong, where do you get yours?  I said all refugees from Syria, by the way.

So please provide links.


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[Shawn0000]

1 hour ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

So please provide links.


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Where is yours from?  I have told you where mine is from, they publish stats, look them up, I'm not going to hold your hand.

[Nerone]

On 28/1/2017 at 9:33 PM, Yahooka said:

Sweden.......You have digged your own deep grave,jumped in it and now you can`t get out of it even if you try !!

send them to a labour camp in Lapland, this would refresh their ideas. 

Edited February 23, 2017 by Nerone

[PS2]

4 minutes ago, Nerone said:

send them to a labour camp in Lapland, this would refresh their ideas. 

Sweden has tried it, they refused to get out of the buses.

No blond Virgins that welcome them...

[Scott]

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[i claudius]

 
That has got to be the lowest I have ever seen someone stoop.
Of all refugees leaving Syria, 38% are under 11 years of age, 22% are over 60 and 23% are women, do you really expect women, children and the elderly to fight for their country?

Wish I lived in your dreamworld

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[simple1]

3 hours ago, i claudius said:

Wish I lived in your dreamworld

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If you wish to refute UNHCR analysis provide evidence from a reputable source, rather than an inane comment

[Shawn0000]

7 hours ago, i claudius said:

Wish I lived in your dreamworld

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Yes, it's a dream, glad I don't live in the reactionary paranoia land that so many on here seem to, I presume you are not proud to be a coward?

[LammyTS1]

 
Where is yours from?  I have told you where mine is from, they publish stats, look them up, I'm not going to hold your hand.

62% ages 12-59 from any source you wish to google.

I am not providing links, as even if I was to, the same inane comments would be forthwith from the liberal blind. "Not a credible source", "Right wing". In reality, the liberal left wing cannot fully expect to suppress the truth anymore.


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[Shawn0000]

1 hour ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

62% ages 12-59 from any source you wish to google.

I am not providing links, as even if I was to, the same inane comments would be forthwith from the liberal blind. "Not a credible source", "Right wing". In reality, the liberal left wing cannot fully expect to suppress the truth anymore.


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62% aged over 11, is what my source says, not 12-59, that percentage includes those over 59, and I did say 38% aged under 12.  If there were 38% under 12 and 62% aged 12-59, then there would be 0% over 59, does that sound right to you?

And what right wing or non credible source is counting refugees?  There are not that many organisation who are counting them at all, there is the UNHCR, the Red Cross, who else?  So what is the original source of your stats on Syrian refugee demographics?  And you say from "any source you wish to Google", except for the UNHCR who have a better idea than anybody, I don't want a link, I want to know where they got their data.

[simple1]

Stats from UNHCR dated 16/02/2017 for demographic of 4.9 million registered Syrian refugees (Govt & UNHCR)

 

Back in early 2016 UNHCR estimated, 58 per cent of the more than 1 million migrants and refugees who arrived in Europe last year (2015) were adult men, 17 per cent were women, and the remainder were children.

 

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

 

 

However, with Sweden there appears to be an extraordinary gender imbalance regards refugees.

 

Sweden is of particular interest to Professor Hudson, because it has the second-highest number of asylum applications in Europe, relative to its population.

"I looked specifically at the figures that Sweden had provided on its migrants — 71 per cent of whom are male," she said.

"And then in the age group 16 to 17 years old, which is what I focused on, over 90 per cent are male."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-11/european-migrant-crisis-triggers-gender-imbalance/7076924

 

 

More detail from Hudson...

 

The resulting ratio is astonishing: These calculations suggest that as of the end of 2015, there were 123 16- and 17-year-old boys in Sweden for every 100 girls of that age.

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/europe-refugees-migrant-crisis-men-213500

 

 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2017 by simple1

[ilostmypassword]

Here's a link to UNHCR data

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

[Shawn0000]

18 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Here's a link to UNHCR data

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

 

OK, this is clearly more up to date than the article I saw UNHCR stats in.

 

In short, 74.6% are women, children and the elderly.

[Laughing Gravy]

 

An article today from the UK Telegraph.

 

"These issues all fit a certain description. They stem from Sweden’s decision to take larger numbers than it could cope with, leading to problems that were once never thought possible. It will pain the Swedish government to admit it. But on this point, at least, Donald Trump was right"

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-right-immigration-sweden/

 

[mike324]

18 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

 

An article today from the UK Telegraph.

 

"These issues all fit a certain description. They stem from Sweden’s decision to take larger numbers than it could cope with, leading to problems that were once never thought possible. It will pain the Swedish government to admit it. But on this point, at least, Donald Trump was right"

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-right-immigration-sweden/

 

The thing is Trump mixes his words, large scale immigration has been working out just fine for many countries including USA. But Trump mixes it with large scale refugee immigration, I don't think anybody ever said large scale refugee immigration is working good for any country.

 

The world is at a crisis, countries like Sweden are trying to be good and save some lives, yet the best Trump can do is make fun of them.  People like Trump is whats wrong with the world, many of his followers can't distinguish between fact and fiction.

 

Trumps immigration issue is being blown way out of proportion by both sides in my opinion.

[heroKK]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

Stats from UNHCR dated 16/02/2017 for demographic of 4.9 million registered Syrian refugees (Govt & UNHCR)

 

Back in early 2016 UNHCR estimated, 58 per cent of the more than 1 million migrants and refugees who arrived in Europe last year (2015) were adult men, 17 per cent were women, and the remainder were children.

 

However, with Sweden there appears to be an extraordinary gender imbalance regards refugees.

 

Sweden is of particular interest to Professor Hudson, because it has the second-highest number of asylum applications in Europe, relative to its population.

"I looked specifically at the figures that Sweden had provided on its migrants — 71 per cent of whom are male," she said.

"And then in the age group 16 to 17 years old, which is what I focused on, over 90 per cent are male."

 

with those numbers, we could form approximately 15 divisions sufficient to protect a patch of land and establish a safe zone inside Syria from terrorists like (ISIS, Al-Qaeda ) and conduct humanitarian assistance to help their own fellow countrymen, however seeing those refugees in the streets of Sukumvit and Europe. Selling fake watches, food and not caring an inch for their own motherland is giving me the rage. some of those refugees don't even bother to head to southern Europe or America as the welfare handouts are lower hence the argument of safety is simply not the objective of many of them, but simply who is providing the highest cash handouts as it was the case of Uruguay.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2017 by heroKK

[AGLV0121]

Ungrateful. not ungreateful.

 

Ungraceful!

[Morch]

4 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Here's a link to UNHCR data

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

 

The link provided details figures with regard to Syrian refugees registered in Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey. Even if these figures are accepted, do they exactly translate to the demographic breakdown of refugees/migrants/asylum seekers in Europe? (and specifically, Sweden). If I'm getting the gist of @simple1's post (above), that's not the case.